So Trump pulls back on ICE raids he promised...

Whatever. I'm amazed folks can defend/support him. True, there is nothing better and we are trapped/owned by how can you defend the man?

And, yes, teen angst. A 63 YO 19 year old I am. Lived in a car in 1979 and pulled my ass up by my work and ethic. I have owned and operated 2 businesses and owned 2 Corporations...I have worked 3 jobs at a time. I *am* a self made man and have worked hard for every penny, never broken a law and been married to the same woman (who lived in the car with me...) for 40 years.

Makes me sick some derelict billionaire liar and cheater that acts like a bully 6 year old gets a pass 'cause there's nothing better. Pathetic.

VooDoo

better than hillary, no???
 
Buy more ammo! !!! I especially like that last part...

1. Schumer, Pelosi, and all the usual suspects would either be earning an honest dollar, or homeless, which is probably more befitting, being among their political base, and all.... They need to bask in that brand of gratitude...
2. Good idea, but the porous Border... Remember, the Mules pass within a handful of miles from my family going to El Norte.
3. The Elect are an Aristocracy. Good Ole Folk..., glad-handing more Good Ole Folk...
4. The Oil, man... Great that we're a net-exporting nation again. But I'd rather be taking the Oil from the Arabs; buy it, bomb them off it, whatever works. Let them exhaust a finite resource, not us.
5. Better than letting all those nukes gather dust as they count on down toward their half-lives.
6. Technically, on SSD and VA Disability; I'm a welfare recipient.
7. I thought that was their job, and ours to ensure it happens. Nobody seems to do their jobs anymore, Federally, at very least. Lots of logically brilliant, but effete, excuses. Also no results.
8. There are cheaper and faster methodologies...
9. Do that and there are no politics. Oh, wait...

Eliminate tax free status for any and all political organizations and donors. You contribute to politics/earn your living from politics and you immediately default and invalidate any tax loopholes from your tax filing; it's a conflict of interest. Also a bribe(?)

Politicians who vote against this should be tried for malfeasance in office, a Federal crime. A lot of this and other malfeasance in office, elected and bureaucrats alike, these days. Apparently, that's OK...

But, of course, the politicians have voted themselves immunity from such prosecutions, so...

"Ballot box, soapbox, ammunition box". Sounds ominous, scary, even. Where did I hear that?

10. Yes, but aren't we always diligently doing all that already? My ass...
11. Abolish Obama, period... I fully expect him to be the first past president to be hounded off (back off?) our shores.
12. Like the poor, the untaxed are with us always...; and the taxed bear them upon their backs, less and less grateful toward a grateful Government. My ass, again...
13. Yes, but that would require the Judiciary to... Oh, wait...

(The Court of Last Resort) (Prime)

14. Already covered... And Covered... And covered... Etc... Etc...

1775-2019 - The Age of Democracy. The Pity of Democracy. The Lessons of Democracy. The Myth of Democracy.

I could, but probably shouldn't, go on...

Greg
 
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better than hillary, no???

Every time, same shit. No, Hillary sucks. So, Trump gets a pass because he's better than Hillary?

No he does not. He's horseshit of a different flavor than Hillary - we get a choice of bullshit or horseshit so take yer pick. Doesn't make the one we picked any better, more effective, nor do they get a pass on being pathetic because they were a different flavor of shit than the other candidate.

We are in this mess because we vote for shit candidates. Why would we get "real" candidates when we will vote for shit candidates and then fucking defend them when they are pathetic? Why would the Dems or Reps run real effective candidates if we continually vote for shit and then defend our choices when they fail? The asshole should be recalled...let Pence run it the last year. Instead we back him like he's a Saint.

I. Just. Don't. Get. It.

VooDoo
 
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You dumbasses. It's called leverage. He's using it against the stupidcrats in congress.

He's outhustling all you simpletons who think linearly and unidimensionally.
Does anyone believe the democrats will step up to do anything helpful on this issue? They're likely working now to find a lefty judge to stop the whole ICE operation before it starts. They're already 'coaching' illegals on how to handle agents at their door, and advising them of THEIR constitutional 'rights'. Nothing changes. Dems win. Citizens lose. Again.
 
Does anyone believe the democrats will step up to do anything helpful on this issue? They're likely working now to find a lefty judge to stop the whole ICE operation before it starts. They're already 'coaching' illegals on how to handle agents at their door, and advising them of THEIR constitutional 'rights'. Nothing changes. Dems win. Citizens lose. Again.

No, no one who has two brain cells to rub together expects Democrats to do anything to stop illegal immigration.

All this is designed to paint a narrative going into the next election.
 
Folks, the point of my grief is that we are fucked. It's the Government (both standing parties - All present politicians and representation) that has failed. Our vote means shit - both candidates work for the same miserable assholes. I do not have a solution. Neither do you.

My suggestion is to stop endorsing and supporting losers, liars, bullies and multi billionaires who are fucking US to death. That's all I'm asking. Stop supporting fuckers and help find a solution rather than lending your vote and your verbal support to fuckers who are killing America.

We all know he's better that Hillary yet is is still a stinking piece of shit. He has accomplished zero in his tenure and is incompetent. Stop defending him and help US find a Way out of this mess. Think it's gonna change at the polls in 2020? Naive I think because whether we get Trump (we will) or Biden it doesn't fucking matter because they are both gonna fuck US.

All I'm asking is that people I see and communicate with stop defending this asshole. He's better than Hillary - he was the only other choice. We got that.

He's not gonna solve The Problems. He is The Problem.

That's all I'm saying.

VooDoo
 
Title said he promised. I used to use that line when I was a child. "YOU PROMISED I COULD TO MONTGOMERY WARDS! YOU PROMISED! I WANT TO SEE THE BLACK PANTHERS!" ?
 
Folks, the point of my grief is that we are fucked. It's the Government (both standing parties - All present politicians and representation) that has failed. Our vote means shit - both candidates work for the same miserable assholes. I do not have a solution. Neither do you.

My suggestion is to stop endorsing and supporting losers, liars, bullies and multi billionaires who are fucking US to death. That's all I'm asking. Stop supporting fuckers and help find a solution rather than lending your vote and your verbal support to fuckers who are killing America.

We all know he's better that Hillary yet is is still a stinking piece of shit. He has accomplished zero in his tenure and is incompetent. Stop defending him and help US find a Way out of this mess. Think it's gonna change at the polls in 2020? Naive I think because whether we get Trump (we will) or Biden it doesn't fucking matter because they are both gonna fuck US.

All I'm asking is that people I see and communicate with stop defending this asshole. He's better than Hillary - he was the only other choice. We got that.

He's not gonna solve The Problems. He is The Problem.

That's all I'm saying.

VooDoo

So, you're saying that people around you, us included, have to stop defending him, even when he takes care of shit that the Left either won't touch, or would purposefully fuck up to our general detriment?

Hmm. Isn't there another group insistent on suppressing what they see as dissent?
 
So, you're saying that people around you, us included, have to stop defending him, even when he takes care of shit that the Left either won't touch, or would purposefully fuck up to our general detriment?

Hmm. Isn't there another group insistent on suppressing what they see as dissent?

Probably a dozen groups that want to suppress that they see as dissent. What's the point?

Oh, yeah, Ad Hominem. I'm a piece of shit because I'm telling you Donald is a dick. Done. Good luck....wasting my breath again.

He's done nothing. He will do nothing but fuck US.

You vote for him. Good luck.

VooDoo
 
VD it seems you cant accept that people disagree with you, hell I half agree with you but you should use facts instead of emotion to back up what you are trying to get across. FTR I will vote for that basterd only because it might be the spark that starts the actions of the left that will cause a rightous and cleansing reaction by average Americans.

I will vote for him because I hate the people that hate him more than I hate him, so feed on that hatefulness for a bit, its healthy for you,
 
Probably a dozen groups that want to suppress that they see as dissent. What's the point?
Oh, yeah, Ad Hominem. I'm a piece of shit because I'm telling you Donald is a dick. Done. Good luck....wasting my breath again.
He's done nothing. He will do nothing but fuck US.
You vote for him. Good luck.
VooDoo

While Trump may not have done a lot of what he said he would, it is unfair to say he has done literally nothing.

I get an extra $50 per week in my paycheck thanks to him... that's not nothing an my overall tax rate went down 2% so again that's something.

He also managed to get some halfway decent people on the supreme court who have been turning out some interesting rulings that really upset the communists.

This year my sister won't have to pay the Obamacare Penalty tax for making too much for government freebes yet too little to fork it over to megacorps... that's money in her pocket.

In addition, he put a massive pair of brakes on the plan for the Communists to use Hillary to complete their takeover and enslavement of the country. At the very least he is buying us time, so use it wisely and don't be too in a hurry to want it all to "get started" by electing evil, you might not like how it actually turns out....

So there are some significant benefits that he has done over what the other choice was... and it was either him or full on Hillary, so be glad he at least fought the good fight for his own reasons when the rest of the Republicans were lining up to help Hillary win so they could line their pockets with scare tactics from their constituents.
 
While Trump may not have done a lot of what he said he would, it is unfair to say he has done literally nothing.

I get an extra $50 per week in my paycheck thanks to him... that's not nothing an my overall tax rate went down 2% so again that's something.

He also managed to get some halfway decent people on the supreme court who have been turning out some interesting rulings that really upset the communists.

This year my sister won't have to pay the Obamacare Penalty tax for making too much for government freebes yet too little to fork it over to megacorps... that's money in her pocket.

In addition, he put a massive pair of brakes on the plan for the Communists to use Hillary to complete their takeover and enslavement of the country. At the very least he is buying us time, so use it wisely and don't be too in a hurry to want it all to "get started" by electing evil, you might not like how it actually turns out....

So there are some significant benefits that he has done over what the other choice was... and it was either him or full on Hillary, so be glad he at least fought the good fight for his own reasons when the rest of the Republicans were lining up to help Hillary win so they could line their pockets with scare tactics from their constituents.

My God, man, stop making sense!
 
I'm only luke warm about Trump. He has said and done some things that were so fuckin stupid that even Joy Behar was speechless! On the other hand, I can't help but wonder what might have been accomplished if the albatross Muller report hadn't been hanging around his neck and being hamstrung by the RINO's.
 
I'm only luke warm about Trump. He has said and done some things that were so fuckin stupid that even Joy Behar was speechless! On the other hand, I can't help but wonder what might have been accomplished if the albatross Muller report hadn't been hanging around his neck and being hamstrung by the RINO's.

I like it when he says and does stupid shit. To me, it is like a Like in the Bear Pit.
 
Probably a dozen groups that want to suppress that they see as dissent. What's the point?

Oh, yeah, Ad Hominem. I'm a piece of shit because I'm telling you Donald is a dick. Done. Good luck....wasting my breath again.

He's done nothing. He will do nothing but fuck US.

You vote for him. Good luck.

VooDoo
Look at the alternatives(20 and counting). Leaders?? Statesmen?? Try egotistical clown show.
 
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Ever read the posts of the "Help me find the perfect rifle" folks here? These days, I don't even bother; it's just another repetition of the same too common, boring bleat.

The theme is, only the perfect rifle will do, because the inquisitive owner is already so perfect themselves that nothing else will suffice, all prior failure traces solely to their equipment.

They wish...

It's basically someone bragging, and enlisting the rest of us in celebrating their self-perceived perfection.

The rest of us already know that for pretty much the most part, the new rifles on the shelves are already up to a standard of accuracy that they shoot better than their owners can manage. Maybe three out of a hundred here can shoot better; better than me, for sure..

Blechhh!

Same folks, "Help me find my rifle's problem". Yeah, right; blame the gear... Lot of the time, it ain't the rifle, pal.

Same thing with the politics. No existing leader, either side, can suit their demanding and righteous requirements. Nothing good at all is good enough. Half empty glass types.

I'm tired of that perfectionist drivel. Stow it, jerks. You sound like the current crop of Demo-Rat Presidential hopefuls. Everything's wrong, T's hopeless, only they can save us from "the bad guys". Professional Whiner-Crats.

Look in the mirror, there's your problem.

Anybody else think similarly?

Greg
 
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