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Rifle Scopes So, what about Leupold Mark 5 ?
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it list the mk5, but no pics and no prices. shows prices on other brand scopes. Says prices good thru midnite, but no prices listed. i'll call mile high tomorrow and see what they got
Call 406-827-6543 store number or 406-544-3829 cell number. He said he’s answering for 2 more hours
This is the most accurate summary of the experience I've had thus far with mine. I understand the idea behind the weird windage hash marks but the execution could have been much better and I find myself second guessing my adjustments. I think I'm going to pop the windage cap gasket off and find a way to extend the reference line all the way to the marks on the dial.
I just used a silver sharpie and made a reference line on the threads that the cap screws onto.
Yes the windage is strange but I never dial wind, the 35mm tube is odd but spuhr makes a mount for it & I mainly use spuhr, they should have more reticle options, for the $$ this will be a tough scope to beat & if the glass is as good as a kahles 525 or pmII & I got mine at half the price of those 2 almost so it’s hard for me to rate this scope lower than 9/10
I haven’t had the mk5 side by side with my pmII yet but my first impression was the eye box is a little tighter & image quality was close but not quite to my pmII 5-25x but I need to have them together & spend a lot more time in different conditions to see how they really compare
While I agree the windage reference point is different, just from looking at I cannot say it’s trash.
When you pick you head up to look at your elevation turrent, you can see the windage without rolling your head over quite as far. Different no doubt, but to each their own.
When you pick you head up to look at your elevation turrent, you can see the windage without rolling your head over quite as far. Different no doubt, but to each their own.
I am interested to hear your thoughts after you have a bit more time behind both, IMO the MK5 5-25 has a great eye box . I think it is very easy to get behind.
I didn’t mean it’s not a good good eye box just vs my pmII which has a great eye box, the most comfortable I’ve been behind so far, but that was just my first impression, after I have them to compare more closely that could change
Very happy with my MK5 5-25 with a Tremor 3. Only other high end scope I've used is a Mark 6 3-18 w/ an illuminated TMR. Haven't used the Tremor 3 windage holdovers a lot yet but just elevation holdovers are easier than the TMR. Have it mounted in ARC rings and am pleased thus far.
Got my scope today but still no mount, fedex smartpost is the worst. I ordered the mount 3 days before the scope & it says it won’t get here for 5 more days. Yesterday it was about 2.5 hours south of me & today it is 2 hours north & the funny thing is it made it half way across the country in 2 days, no more smartpost for me. These are the best leupold turrets yet by far, only wish the elevation felt like the windage, which is firmer & more precise feeling. It would be nice if the turret lock didn’t stick out so far too. This is going to be a good scope for the money
I’ve been comparing mk5 to my pmii & I’m have been very impressed. It’s close but not quite as good but the price difference makes up for that. The pmii just does everything thing a little bit better but not a big difference. The pmii color is really good slightly more saturated & a little warm in tone where the mk5 seems very neutral. They are both bright & clear edge to edge. Ca is handled very well but I’ve only had it 3 weeks now & will take more time & different conditions to check that. So far it tracks accurately after 300 rounds of 308, I want to see how it does after 1000+. The mk5 eye box is good but pmii has a very good eye box & is a little easier to get behind. This mk5 25x is impressive it’s bright, good color, turrets, tracks, easy to get behind, & parallax is easy to work. The things I don’t like are the reticle options, these grid reticles are busy & distracting, the 35mm tube when most are 34 or 30, I don’t like the zero lock button, & the price for illumination bumps the price too high imo when you can get a lot of other scopes like razor amg/hd, pmii is p4f is $2600 & 15% off sale price at optics planet brings it down to $2200 which is hard to beat. I got my mk5 on sale with no illumination well under $2000 so I am very impressed so far
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I hope they add the msr2 to mk5 line up then I could have leupold & pmii with a good reticle for dialing. I dial elevation & hold wind. My uncle has the h59 25x us Optics & I have the cch & I like them both the same but prefer less busy msr & the new vortex Christmas tree with floating dot
I don't think Leupold realizes how much a decent reticle would increase the sales of that optic. The price point they've already achieved for the quality. It's probably the best glass per dollar you can get if we're being frank. I know the Cronus and DMR II pro come to mind but the MK5 is legitimately Gen II razor quality for a chunk less if not better because it doesn't lose any at the high end. I mean the moment they field a TMR reticle with a tree and center dot that optic is going to vastly outnumber it's competitors in my safe. Least regarding the 5-25 it is almost impossible to beat for the price.
Even considering the Razor's new year's price drop and added reticle choices? That 7c looks pretty nifty. Very SKMR3-ish.
I have been shooting and learning the CCH the last few months, honestly it is pretty friggin good. Just have an open mind and give it a chance, it is not as bad as I was expecting.
No now i'd probably favor the Gen II if weight wasn't an issue. The current prices are pretty great.
I dont know, I have both the 3.6-18 and the 5-25 now. In both I have an H59 reticle. If I didnt already have the H59 in my 3.6-18, or if I could trade it out too, I would have gone with a CCH for both. That said I am a huge fan of Christmas Tree reticles. I learned how to shoot tactically with an H59, and have been a fan ever since. I have found though, that there are a few issues- which is why i actually prefer the CCH. That said, I think the TMR is another fantastic reticle. My personal opinion is that if you want a christmas tree- get something like the H59, Tremor, CCH or EBR-2C. If you want less clutter, get something TMR-ish. To me, the EBR-7 and similar reticles are confused. Theyre not great with hold-overs thanks to so much open space, but theyre also more cluttered than non-tree reticles. I know that when I started, I did not dial anything. I always used hold-overs. Maybe that is why I feel so strongly about this. I have only recently begun dialing for many shots, and even now I usually dial for about .5mils less than what my DOPE calls for. I've had too many issues where I'll range a target, dial, then the round will go over the target, leaving me no way to hold under bc of the lack of stadia lines over the crosshair (which is why I prefer the CCH, along with a couple other things). BUT basically, I know that for me, it is faster to use a combo of dialing and holding, and for that, an H59 -esque reticle will always be best ( I think).
NOW ALL OF THAT SAID
another reason I like the CCH is that there is more open space and less clutter (1/4 stadia lines vs 1/5) And do have a soft spot for the TMR. But I would not like a TMR on my match rifle (PRS/Sniper)
NOW ALL OF THAT SAID
another reason I like the CCH is that there is more open space and less clutter (1/4 stadia lines vs 1/5) And do have a soft spot for the TMR. But I would not like a TMR on my match rifle (PRS/Sniper)
With you having both models, can you say the glass is better on over the other? I know when these scopes first came out, people were favoring the 5-25 model because it didn't show as much CA and I'm not sure but they're may have been a few other things people noticed on the 3.6-18 to be worse on. What's your view?
What's it like on the lowest magnification?
I'd like a CCH Mark 5 for my long range hunting rifle, but the lack of illumination makes me worry the reticle would be a bit hopeless at either 3.6x or 5x magnification.
It really depends on how far you will be taking the shot, the lighting conditions and the animal / back ground. If your only using it close like 100 yards and in then yes, maybe. But IMO there are better options out there than the FFP CCH when under around 8X.
I have both as well, the 3-18 is an excellent scope! However it isn't as good as the 5-25 optically, it shows a very little CA at times. But not as bad as some scopes I have owned. That is my only real complaint about the 3-18 & to me it is so minor I don't care.
I agree with the post above this, the 3-18 is a fantastic scope, but the 5-25 is still much much better. The glass, brightness, and clarity of the 5-25 are fantastic to me, and I see very little CA on the 5-25 (although to be fair I also see very little on the 3-18, albeit a little more). I belive much of this is due to the more acute angles in the "Ultra-short" design of the 3-18 compared to the 5-25 as well as the larger objective. Beside that, the elevation turret on the 5-25 has much nicer clicks than the 3-18, although neither one is bad by any means. I would say that the 3-18 is a great scope, but the 5-25 is a better scope.
I have to say, I was shooting with a 5-25 Mark 5 with a tremor 3 reticle, I did think it was insane that tremor 3 with no illumination is MSRP'd at $2989, and then the illuminated version is $3639. Granted those prices go down in the aftermarket / with actual dealers. But they're telling us as consumers that it's $550 for illumination on a scope that's already set to nearly 3 grand?
Come on... With the vortex AMG it's the same price regardless. I have to feel like it's one of those features that on any scope $2k and up shouldn't really be a consideration.
Even on their "standard" reticles it's a difference of $2599 to $3249. I still don't like how they charge +$300-$500 for a H59 or Tremor 3 reticle. In my view if you're actually trying to make the absolute best scopes on the market.
I love leupold optics, but it feels like I'm going to a goddamn car dealership with the 'extra costs' associated with a good reticle or illumination. These things shouldn't be looked at as add-ons to widen their profit margins.
I hope you are not paying sticker prices because vortex has their AMG for $3700 & their hd for $3400 on their website but most of here can easily find better prices buy calling different optic companies. I got my mk5 cch 25x on sale for $1750. All scope companies put a higher price on their products, it’s called msrp but most people shop around & find a deal
Having the price difference on the illumination is good & bad. For people that don’t need it that’s $500 savings & allowed me to get mine well under $2000. The msrp on vortex AMG is $3700 but most people can find them for $2100-2500 but what if they offered a $500 discount for non-illuminated that would put the price at $1600-2000 & I bet there would be a lot of people who would get the no illumination to save that much money
Could someone point me towards 35mm rings or a one piece mount with a built in cant of 20moa or more please?
Thanks. Any recommendations on which height to get? I’m mounting a Leupold mark 5. 5-25x56
Depends on what you plan to mount it to. AR, chassis with enclosed forearm, Manners stock, etc.
Get the spuhr sp5602 it has high rings 1.5 inch
I have a Barrett mrad & it’s like desert tech ar style rail & adjustable lop & comb so 1.5 inch is perfect for it
Sure, you will like this mount it has a built in bubble level & a self leveling wedge which makes it really easy. There are some YouTube vids on the spuhr showing the level wedge it’s simple & quick
I used Tier One rings, made in England. They have a bubble-level built in and make a model for the CZ 527 dovetail! They make picatinny and mono-mount types too, of course.
About the CZ dovetail: T1 calls refers to their size as 17mm, but people in the US refer to the 527 dovetail is 16mm. Those krazy Europeans measure that dovetail as 16mm, 16.5mm, or 17mm. Everybody picks a different spot to measure, it seems.
Tier 1 has the monomount which looks a lot like the spuhr & has all the same features like a leveling wedge & built in bubble. Their high mount is 1.3 inches tall & im comfortable with 1.5 inches on ar rails. Spuhr can make them up to 1.89 inches high & up to 60moa cant which is great for elr. Tier 1 makes quality mounts & similar to spuhr styles & prices. They have a wide variety too from thin to wide scope rings & unimounts.
Mine is 1.5 inches high on the Barrett & comb all the way down & it’s perfect. I wouldn’t want to go much lower
odoylerules,
You can use their aluma covers on the MK5. Those are super high quality, but they are expensive.
You can use their aluma covers on the MK5. Those are super high quality, but they are expensive.
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