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Rob,Got a T6Xi 5-30x56 ordered today so hopefully will see how it compares to my other scopes when it comes in.
Rob,
Have you received your T6Xi yet and if so what are your thoughts of it compared to your Zeiss S3 and Burris Pro?
Thanks
I'll be very interested to hear if it has the glass to really pull-off 30x (looking at You, Bushnell...)Got a T6Xi 5-30x56 ordered today so hopefully will see how it compares to my other scopes when it comes in.
Rob,Actually just arrived about an hour ago. I got it mounted up and did a quick once over on it. No glass comparisons yet. All in all feels and looks like a quality scope. Get the same feel of the Pro when behind it but might be the same reticle influencing that but a nice eye box also. Seems to have the same matte finish on it that the Pro does also. Knobs are nice and the locking feature is pretty cool. I will have to hold off on seeing how zeroing is until next week. It was nice it included a sunshade and Tenebreax scope caps as well as a switchview with a long and short handle. Also two batteries for the illumination which is nice as they are a different size than most scopes. I don't think anyone will be disappointed if they end up buying one.
And anyone wondering the illumination is green and only green.
Can't speak for all of them, but my 5-30 pulls it off fine. It's really nice to have the extra magnification for shooting groups. My XTRII can't use the maximum magnification, it becomes too dark, no eybox, and resolution drops of dramatically. With the Steiner, the eybox gets smaller, but still plenty usable. Resolution and light are still good to go. I think the 56mm objective really helps with that.I'll be very interested to hear if it has the glass to really pull-off 30x (looking at You, Bushnell...)
YesQuick question for anyone with the T6Xi 5-30. Hitting the range tomorrow for the first time with it and checking out the manual and from what I get to zero you lock the knob, loosen the two screws and then the knob turns without clicks to zero. Correct?
Rob, I am waiting with baited breath to hear your comparison of this scope to the Zeiss and Burris ProQuick question for anyone with the T6Xi 5-30. Hitting the range tomorrow for the first time with it and checking out the manual and from what I get to zero you lock the knob, loosen the two screws and then the knob turns without clicks to zero. Correct?
Rob, I am waiting with baited breath to hear your comparison of this scope to the Zeiss and Burris Pro
When you say that the Zeiss just edges out the Steiner for glass. Specifically how did the Zeiss win? Does it cut through mirage better? Edge to edge clarity? Less CA? Better FOV? Better DOF? Can you expound a little?
Thanks again
Rob,The Zeiss does cut mirage better and also has a better parallax over different distances with less adjustment needed. Edge to edge on both were good and no real CA in either. The FOV is very good in both also. As I said the Zeiss just edged the Steiner out and mostly from the clarity stand point looking at targets and small items giving a little more detail in items being seen. I was looking at the clamps I had holding my paper on at 100 and could make out more detail with the Zeiss than the Steiner. Also looking at longer ranges at targets and grass and berm specifics. Again I don't want you to think the Steiner is bad at all. If you got one I am sure you would be happy with it as I am happy with it and it will stay in the safe with the Pros and the Zeiss scopes. Hope this helps a little more.
Curious how these are turning out, considering a 3-18 for my MWS, considering what they can be had for. @Rob01 what would you liken it to? Razor Gen II quality glass? That's more than enough for me for the intended role. Really would like the 2.5-15 but need them to put the SCR2 in it. I've been going back and forth between the ATACR 4-16, Nx8, MK5, and now the T6Xi
My only point of contention is this is going on an 18” LMT MWS which I’m trying to somehow keep the weight sub 15lbs with the ole surefire FA762SS. The Steiner is a tad weighty compared to the other optics i was looking at. Namely another mk5 3.6-18, NX8 2.5-20, Mk5 5-25, and have given a ton of thought to just stepping up to the 4-16 atacr. Seeing what the Steiner can be had for though is stupid cheap comparably speaking.Don't have a 3-18 but the glass in my 5-30 is better than a Gen II Razor. I would suspect the 3-18 would be also. I don't think you would be upset with the scope but I would also look at the Zeiss 4-25x50. You get some more top end and still have the 4x on low end and a 50mm objective. Good reticle also.
Speaking of my experience with the 1-6. I’d say pretty stellar. Tracks well, stupid easy zero stop. Once I didn’t tighten down the two elevation turret screws and the turret slipped on me, but that was my error. Overall my favorite total turret I’ve used. A former 4-16 ATACR felt a bit better, but that ZS system requires optical surgery to reset, hard pass. I’m a huge fan of the 1-6 turrets.How are you guys liking the turrets?
Making me rethinking my decision on what i'd have to spend to grab another ATACR 4-16 for the MWS. I think I'm going to give the 3-18 a try. Need to find a lightweight Unimount to try and keep it under 40oz totalSpeaking of my experience with the 1-6. I’d say pretty stellar. Tracks well, stupid easy zero stop. Once I didn’t tighten down the two elevation turret screws and the turret slipped on me, but that was my error. Overall my favorite total turret I’ve used. A former 4-16 ATACR felt a bit better, but that ZS system requires optical surgery to reset, hard pass. I’m a huge fan of the 1-6 turrets.
The Nightforce 34mm cantilever is about as light a unimount you'll find. I've been happy with my two.Making me rethinking my decision on what i'd have to spend to grab another ATACR 4-16 for the MWS. I think I'm going to give the 3-18 a try. Need to find a lightweight Unimount to try and keep it under 40oz total
I can't seem to find too much on the weight. 5oz roughly? In the back of my mind I'm wondering if all this wouldn't be worth it to save half a lb and just go with another MK5 with an ultra-light mountThe Nightforce 34mm cantilever is about as light a unimount you'll find. I've been happy with my two.
5.6oz on that 34mm 1.5" cantileverI can't seem to find too much on the weight. 5oz roughly? In the back of my mind I'm wondering if all this wouldn't be worth it to save half a lb and just go with another MK5 with an ultra-light mount
Im heavily considering the 1-6. Any comparison glass wise to other higher end stuff? Mk6, k16i, etc? Also construction. The optical cell. Lens fixturing. Reticle lens/erector alignment. How robust is all of that vs nightforce and other proven solutions.Speaking of my experience with the 1-6. I’d say pretty stellar. Tracks well, stupid easy zero stop. Once I didn’t tighten down the two elevation turret screws and the turret slipped on me, but that was my error. Overall my favorite total turret I’ve used. A former 4-16 ATACR felt a bit better, but that ZS system requires optical surgery to reset, hard pass. I’m a huge fan of the 1-6 turrets.
Thanks Rob.I have the 5-30 and it's a very nice scope. The S3 glass is a little better but the glass in the T6Xi won't hold you back.
Their military optic breaking in half like a big dog when Aaron Cowan dropped it gives me all kinds of pause. Stupid test? Sure. But it broke and no other optic Ive seen has, during this test, so there's that.From all the reports the glass is phenomenal. I’ve never heard Steiner not being durable. I emailed Steiner about reticle options in the 2.5-15.
I’m very close to ordering one just to see it.
Emailed asking about reticles for the 2.5-15. No new reticles as of this time. Though they need to redesign lower the weight.
Which scope exactly (old school capital-M Military or an M-series modern one with numbers?) and any link to this.Their military optic breaking in half like a big dog when Aaron Cowan dropped it gives me all kinds of pause. Stupid test? Sure. But it broke and no other optic Ive seen has, during this test, so there's that.
Skip to 10:40. Their latest and greatest M LPVO.Which scope exactly (old school capital-M Military or an M-series modern one with numbers?) and any link to this.
I'm not especially nice to my stuff (as I use it in all wx, stuff it in the pack and hike across bad terrain with it etc) and have definitely for sure had a 24" bolt gun fall on the scope >1 x, even scratching the scope or loosing zero much less breaking in half.
I do not have any other higher end optics for comparison. Here is what I can say from memory having owned a March F 1-10 Shorty, SWFA 1-6 HD, NF ATACR 4–6, and a Vortex PST 2 1-6:Im heavily considering the 1-6. Any comparison glass wise to other higher end stuff? Mk6, k16i, etc? Also construction. The optical cell. Lens fixturing. Reticle lens/erector alignment. How robust is all of that vs nightforce and other proven solutions.
I've had:I do not have any other higher end optics for comparison. Here is what I can say from memory having owned a March F 1-10 Shorty, SWFA 1-6 HD, NF ATACR 4–6, and a Vortex PST 2 1-6:
The 1x is better than the SWFA 1-6 and IIRC the March F 1-10 Shorty. A Vortex PST 1-6 beats it at 1x, no surprise there though. Illumination is as good as the March and far superior to the SWFA. The overall 1x performance is better on the PST, again no surprise as thats a good SFP optic optimized for 1x.
Overall construction feels very nice, I would compare it to a NF ATACR 4-16 I had. As I mentioned above, the turret clicks on the ATACR was slightly better, but the zero stop of the T6 is far superior.
The T6 probably has my favorite LPVO reticle I’ve looked through for my uses. If 1x performance is your main goal, I would seriously look at other options like a Razor. The 1x is good, but the optic shines at 3-6x magnification combined with the excellent turrets.
I consider the T6 a “DMRs LPVO” and not an “assaulters LPVO” if that makes any sense.
Website is absolute shit too by the way.Nice job spamming
How is the T6xi 1-6 on 1x? It sounds like maybe the reticle isn’t the fastest at 1x but is it a true 1x? How does it compare to the Razor Gen 2 1-6 in this regard?
I have not really liked any LPVOs before this one. Not a LOT of experience (I mostly use RDS+FTS-magnifier) but it works for me.How is the T6xi 1-6 on 1x? It sounds like maybe the reticle isn’t the fastest at 1x but is it a true 1x? How does it compare to the Razor Gen 2 1-6 in this regard?
I wish they would put a tree based reticle on the 2.5-15, Id have one. I emailed them same thing asking they would put the scr2 in it.From all the reports the glass is phenomenal. I’ve never heard Steiner not being durable. I emailed Steiner about reticle options in the 2.5-15.
I’m very close to ordering one just to see it.
Emailed asking about reticles for the 2.5-15. No new reticles as of this time. Though they need to redesign lower the weight.
That's what I pay for LOL.Nice job spamming
It is. Can you recommend a good website designer? ThanksWebsite is absolute shit too by the way.
Yeah I just asked if there were any plans to have any other reticles in it. They said not as of right now. Though the issue there is for 2oz more you can have the 3-18. I love the magnification range and size of the 2.5-15. The weight however makes it almost pointless. They need to redesign it to be around MK5 weight and it would be incredible with the right reticle.I wish they would put a tree based reticle on the 2.5-15, Id have one. I emailed them same thing asking they would put the scr2 in it.
I mean they make (at least) the M7xi in 2.9-20 and the 4-30 with the Tremor 3 as an option so unless they think people will pay double the price just to upgrade reticles that indeed seems a weird choice. Maybe it's coming later?I wish they would put a tree based reticle on the 2.5-15, Id have one. I emailed them same thing asking they would put the scr2 in it.