Is the SCR2 reticle daylight bright. The MSR2 did not seem daylight bright on the 5-30.Get the SCR-2. You can see the reticle with the illumination at low power and at higher power the tree reticle is great for holds. No downside.
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Is the SCR2 reticle daylight bright. The MSR2 did not seem daylight bright on the 5-30.Get the SCR-2. You can see the reticle with the illumination at low power and at higher power the tree reticle is great for holds. No downside.
It was likely a scope painted on 4-20Lol, yea she is confused.
Or… as they say in Colorado: any given Fryday…It was likely a scope painted on 4-20
This happened to my 3-18, it came with the 2.5-15 mag ring. Steiner fixed it and turnaround was quick. I was actually pretty impressed with their service process. Still mildly annoying.View attachment 8164377
Hopefully this is purely cosmetic. My 2.5-15 says it's a 1-6. Will give them a call on Monday.
My thoughts as well. It makes me wonder what less obvious things are not being done correctly.Not sure what to think about that. It’s really not a big deal… Or is it? If something so small is overlooked, what else is being overlooked?
I’m wanting a 3-18 SCR2 in the near future, but I don’t want to use special pronouns for my optic.
Did you just submit a claim online and did they replace or repair it? Thanks!This happened to my 3-18, it came with the 2.5-15 mag ring. Steiner fixed it and turnaround was quick. I was actually pretty impressed with their service process. Still mildly annoying.
The reticle is very thin at 3x. Not optimal for a hunting reticle at low power unless it’s dark enough for the illumination to show up. But the illumination isn’t daylight bright.For anybody with the 3-18 MSR2 how is the reticle at 3x? Is the reticle usable at that magnification. I haven’t been able to look through one but looking through the 5-30 at 5x the reticle seems pretty fine.
That helps a lot. Thanks. I think I will go with the MSR2.The reticle is very thin at 3x. Not optimal for a hunting reticle at low power unless it’s dark enough for the illumination to show up. But the illumination isn’t daylight bright.
Here’s a few pics I just took at 3x in a variety of settings here. The illumination is on the brightest setting in some of the pics and it’s cloudy/overcast outside.
The reticle starts to shine at about 8x. Hope this helps.
Called their CS number, spoke with a pleasant and helpful person, they opened a claim and sent me a return label. They swapped the mag ring part only and redid QC checks before returning the scope. Only took a few weeks, and I received email updates from Steiner as it moved through the process.Did you just submit a claim online and did they replace or repair it? Thanks!
Oh I agree, I have a lot of ffp scopes, some are designed so that they're still fairly functional on low power, like the leupold pr1 mil on the 3.6-18 is still fairy visible at low power, my milC at 4x seemed fairly visible. The MSR2 on 3x up against a dark background was very hard to pick up. Regardless I like the scope with first impressions.Guys it's a FFP scope. 3x will be very fine. Nature of the beast. You don't buy a 3-18x or 5-30x to use it on 3-5x the majority of the time. If you did then you bought the wrong scope. LOL It's not just this scope but most all FFP scopes.
So, that one bolt right in the center of the elevation turret, right there on top. What happens if you use an allen wrench to loosen it, and then you cannot get it tight again?
Um . . . asking for a friend.
I would say not ideal
So, what happened? Was this a design flaw, something on this particular scope that was broken or user error?
Sounds like user error if someone takes an Allen wrench and loosens it.
Tell your friend to call Steiner on Monday.
User error.
My, um, ahem, friend, loosened it, and now it won't tighten. It does not seem to affect the function or accuracy of the scope. The lock locks and unlocks, the elevation works. The rifle is just as accurate as it was before. I'll, um, I mean, I will tell my friend to call Steiner and ask.
I’m sure glad your friend has a friend like you to help him out.
I’d be interested to see what Steiner has to say. It seems like if you could loosen it you should be able to tighten it. I can’t imagine loosening it would strip threads or damage the hex head. I wonder what internally the bolt screws into.
It doesn't feel stripped at all. It was snug. Loosened, and then it just does not tighten. I don't know what that bolt even does, maybe hold the lock/unlock switch on top of the turret? Nothing else feels loose or anything. The elevation turret locks and unlocks like it is supposed to.
They sent a shipping label. The tech guy was very polite and did not use the words retard or moron.
Did he explain what loosening that allen does?
Nope, nor why it might still be loose and unable to tighten.
They literally got it today, and I received this in my email, also today, "Your optic has been repaired and tested to verify function. More specified notes of the repair will be on the paperwork that will be returned with your scope."Haha. You should probably still have a talk with your friend in private using those words though.
My first 3-18x56 had almost daylight bright illumination, just got my second scope this evening from a brown shirt. Will test again but I like the MSR2 at 3x cause if it’s duplex like look, if illumination able to define center in daylight it’ll be a winning combo.I’ll say i think the SCR2 is pretty usable at 3x. Could see where the msr might not be.
I had a few xtr3, the turrets were quite stiff and the knurling on them, unnecessarily aggressive. I didn't like them at all, felt the steiner were a fair bit better.Could someone post some turret footage? Maybe I'm being an optics snob here but I just am not liking the turrets. Seems the XTRIII series has better turrets by looking at videos.
It is not really daylight bright, but super nice at dawn/dusk.Is the SCR2 reticle daylight bright. The MSR2 did not seem daylight bright on the 5-30.
True, but if the reticle would illuminate in red, or if it was just a little bit brighter, it would be much more usable at minimum magnification. This would give the scope greater versatility.Guys it's a FFP scope. 3x will be very fine. Nature of the beast. You don't buy a 3-18x or 5-30x to use it on 3-5x the majority of the time. If you did then you bought the wrong scope. LOL It's not just this scope but most all FFP scopes.
Yeah it’s a great scope for the price. The reticle is very fine and not to usable at 2.5 power, but besides that no complaints.
Build looks great. I've got mine on a bolt gun. I had it out to 1000 so far. Optic is just beautiful.Just got my 3-18 MSR mounted up. So far I really like what I'm seeing. Much, much better than the T5Xi. Ranging really isn't usable until 6x in my opinion. Reticle is damn near perfect at 18x. Hopefully will get it out on the range early next week.
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Is that a Spuhr mount? Which red dot? I was considering just such a set up for a DMR type gun.Just got my 3-18 MSR mounted up. So far I really like what I'm seeing. Much, much better than the T5Xi. Ranging really isn't usable until 6x in my opinion. Reticle is damn near perfect at 18x. Hopefully will get it out on the range early next week.
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Yep, Spuhr with a Trijicon RMR.Is that a Spuhr mount? Which red dot? I was considering just such a set up for a DMR type gun.
That’s what mine will be sitting on my large frame. How’s the weight?Just got my 3-18 MSR mounted up. So far I really like what I'm seeing. Much, much better than the T5Xi. Ranging really isn't usable until 6x in my opinion. Reticle is damn near perfect at 18x. Hopefully will get it out on the range early next week.
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I have the mil version. I just wish they would have made the cross hairs darker and fatter towards the edge so the center of the crosshair is easier to pick up quickly at 2.5 power.Thanks for the response. Which reticle? What power does it become usable?
It's a pig . I would not want to have to carry it very far lol.That’s what mine will be sitting on my large frame. How’s the weight?
Any comparisons to the Razor III out there?
What are the specs? Looks like KAC? I've been trying to estimate my MWS not being 15+lbs but I'm not sure I will get away with it lol. Gotta get DWilson to chop an inch off and add a seekins adjustable block, then I just need a mount and lower.It's a pig . I would not want to have to carry it very far lol.
I have both but haven't put them sided by side. Turret wise the Razor is completely in another league for me and Idk if I consider the Gen III turrets to be phenomenal or anything. I like mine they're very good. The TX6i turrets are suitable as Huskey said way earlier in the thread they're about bare minimum of what I'd consider acceptable. Which given the price of the optic I think is kind of unacceptable if I'm being quite honest. (I know contradictory) They're meh. The locking mechanism also is so stiff that I can't lock the turret without it moving. I Have to hold the turret with one hand and lock it with the other. Though with a zero stop I'll likely just leave it unlocked. I'm not a fan of locked turrets which is the primary reason my Gen III was deleted.Any comparisons to the Razor III out there?
Mostly KAC. At least the front end. 16.6lbs as seen(with loaded mag) . The turrets aren't great, but ok. For what I paid on Expert Voice, nothing comes close to this so I'll deal with the just ok turrets. I'll only lock them for transport. The lock is kinda weird.What are the specs? Looks like KAC? I've been trying to estimate my MWS not being 15+lbs but I'm not sure I will get away with it lol. Gotta get DWilson to chop an inch off and add a seekins adjustable block, then I just need a mount and lower.
I have both but haven't put them sided by side. Turret wise the Razor is completely in another league for me and Idk if I consider the Gen III turrets to be phenomenal or anything. I like mine they're very good. The TX6i turrets are suitable as Huskey said way earlier in the thread they're about bare minimum of what I'd consider acceptable. Which given the price of the optic I think is kind of unacceptable if I'm being quite honest. (I know contradictory) They're meh. The locking mechanism also is so stiff that I can't lock the turret without it moving. I Have to hold the turret with one hand and lock it with the other. Though with a zero stop I'll likely just leave it unlocked. I'm not a fan of locked turrets which is the primary reason my Gen III was deleted.
It'll be a minute before I compare them sided by side. However when I took the T6Xi to the range last weekend, the glass does not disappoint it's very nice. Considering what you can get them for there isn't much that comes close. I also am a huge fan of the SCR2 reticle.
I’ve read a little about Expert Voice. How much of an expert or influencer do you have to be to get deals? Are the discounts significant?Mostly KAC. At least the front end. 16.6lbs as seen(with loaded mag) . The turrets aren't great, but ok. For what I paid on Expert Voice, nothing comes close to this so I'll deal with the just ok turrets. I'll only lock them for transport. The lock is kinda weird.