Left the illumination on for a few weeks . . . lol, battery dead. I could have sworn I remembered to turn that knob down, but there it was all the way up on 11.
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And the batteries are not standard 2032 that everyone else uses making it even more of a pain. It uses a CR 2450 which reminds me, I need to order some extras cause like you, I seem to always forget it's on... Steiner could really use an auto-shutoff. I wish all manufacturers would adopt a shake awake and auto shutoff (after period of inactivity) feature.Left the illumination on for a few weeks . . . lol, battery dead. I could have sworn I remembered to turn that knob down, but there it was all the way up on 11.
I agree!I have a Steiner T6XI 3-18x56 with the MSR2 reticle. I haven’t used it on a rifle yet. Initial impressions are good. The turrets are just fine and the glass is good. My only initial complaint is that I would have liked the main reticle lines to match what the reticle looks like at the 10 mil mark. The reticle gets a bit thicker and much more bolder there. If the entirety of the reticle looked like that, it would be much more optimized for the 3-18 magnification that this scope offers. It’s unfortunate that Steiner didn’t do that.
I don't think the turrets are "bad" on the T6Xi. Certainly better than NF NX8 and Vortex LHT turrets which are also in the price class...Why can’t Burris get these damn turrets right. All the German made scopes always had good turrets. Didn’t hear any complaints on the first round of scopes going out of the T6xi. Scope could be the home run the brand needed.
no, not bad, just "mushy", not a deal breaker since the glass is really good. My TX6i and 2 others I fondled are equivalent to my Strike Eagle's turrets. I had a chance to send mine in until I felt the other TX6i's and they felt the same.I don't think the turrets are "bad" on the T6Xi. Certainly better than NF NX8 and Vortex LHT turrets which are also in the price class...
I just loved the m7xi turrrts but not the optical system. Now the t6 has a good one and the turrets aren’t as good haha. Dammit. Ah well it happens. I have a pmii that lt Mtc that I’m about to send in because it barley has clicks.I don't think the turrets are "bad" on the T6Xi. Certainly better than NF NX8 and Vortex LHT turrets which are also in the price class...
Additionally I've asked the Steiner/Burris what torque value and what loctite to use and all he responded was "yeah, use loctite". Ok dude, purple, blue or red? Nothing yet.......
I should know yes (I am specialty truck design engineer by trade and use fasteners with a locking feature everyday of my life). What I don't know is the material of the threaded female hole and NO I'M NOT GOING TO TEAR APART THE TURRET TO SEE IF THE FEMALE HOLE IS POLYMER, STEEL, TI or ALUMINUM so no it's not obvious. My eye's are telling me it's blue loctite but for this size fastener should be purple. Short story is STOP VICTIM BLAMING when it's clearly a QC issue and should of NEVER left the factory with an obvious missing screw. So yeah it could be rocket science when you need to analyze the material first which directly drives a locking feature and torque value.You should know the screw size, which will lead you to all kinds of standard torque information online. As far as which thread locker to use, it's pretty obvious if you read the description for each one.
It's not rocket science.
I should know yes (I am specialty truck design engineer by trade and use fasteners with a locking feature everyday of my life). What I don't know is the material of the threaded female hole and NO I'M NOT GOING TO TEAR APART THE TURRET TO SEE IF THE FEMALE HOLE IS POLYMER, STEEL, TI or ALUMINUM so no it's not obvious. My eye's are telling me it's blue loctite but for this size fastener should be purple. Short story is STOP VICTIM BLAMING when it's clearly a QC issue and should of NEVER left the factory with an obvious missing screw. So yeah it could be rocket science when you need to analyze the material first which directly drives a locking feature and torque value.
screw ETA is next week Tuesday.Call them, get a shipping label, and send it in. It will come back to you installed and correct.
Yep, I do remember your post, in fact I was about to remove that screw from the windage turret and run to the parts store to find one until I read your post and decided to not take it out. I asked Burris/Steiner what issues could arise with this missing screw, torque and locking feature? 5 days later they responded that the are shipping me out a screw (no other details). If I have issues I'll then ship it back. Like what @308pirate said "it's not rocket science" right?I might send it in with the screw - at least you know it will be done correctly.
You might remember my post earlier in this thread where I stupidly loosened that screw, and then I could not get it to tighten again. I sent it in, and it came back working properly.
I honestly kindof doubt it. Also, the Steiner employee I spoke with truly seemed passionate about the product. Not like he was trying to be a good CS rep, but like he geeked out on this stuff and legit loved the technical aspects.
-Schott glass
-Tested on scar H, full auto, 25 guns, run hard for a day
-Design tested to 50bmg barret recoil emulating machine, unknown Gs
-Each scope. Individual test 350 rounds 762x51 recoil simulating accelerometer then tracking and all functions of illumination and zero retention verified.
-All parts US sourced material and machine work, except "maybe a screw or O ring or something like that from China".
-Internal mechanisms similar to t5, but with design flaws corrected.
-Side impact testing similar to 556 recoil performed.
-This Steiner employee felt the scope is the durability equivalent of Nightforce NXS line, in their opinion.
This is just the opinions and datapoints provided me by one Steiner employee during a phone call to their 1800#.
That was post #478, back on page 10. That is as close to confirmation as I have been able to find.I do know that Steiner America is getting the glass for the T6xi shipped in from Germany. I have read/heard that the T6xi line glass is Schott, can anyone confirm if this is correct?
I did see on the Steiner website that the glass is from Germany, but didn't say anything about Schott.That was post #478, back on page 10. That is as close to confirmation as I have been able to find.
What does it matter? Seriously....what if it's some other company's?I did see on the Steiner website that the glass is from Germany, but didn't say anything about Schott.
I think it’d be funny if Schott and Swaro were front companies for Tasco.I heard they get it from IOR as they have the best glass ever!
Yeah true, any company can make bad glass, the T5xi was not great optically, not bad but not great either. It's just a curiosity, nothing more.What does it matter? Seriously....what if it's some other company's?
Sure, there are so many variabkes. I had a t5xi 15x50 and optically it was very bright, and not bad at all, however I keep reading that the t6x is a definite step up.I suppose the 'Schott' glass is only one aspect, you also have the optical engineering of whole package as a system. I have looked through many T5xi scopes. The 5-25X56 seemed decent enough, but something didn't seem right with every 3-15X50 that I looked through. Hard to describe, like a glasses prescription that's a little off. Also Schott probably sells different grades/types of glass.
Suppliers provide whatever level of quality the oem is willing to specify and pay for.Yeah true, any company can make bad glass, the T5xi was not great optically, not bad but not great either. It's just a curiosity, nothing more.
I'd bet a paycheck and a half that Steiner doesn't source-control its lenses.I suppose the 'Schott' glass is only one aspect, you also have the optical engineering of whole package as a system. I have looked through many T5xi scopes. The 5-25X56 seemed decent enough, but something didn't seem right with every 3-15X50 that I looked through. Hard to describe, like a glasses prescription that's a little off. Also Schott probably sells different grades/types of glass.
I heard they get it from IOR as they have the best glass ever!
Screw came today. Installed her using blue loctite and attempted to torque to 10 in-lbs (their instructions) and screw snapped and head is spinning freely. Beyond frustrated with my first Steiner optic and at this rate last Steiner optic......Yeah, well, I am not a rocket scientist, either, obviously, but I could not get that screw to tighten at all once I loosened it.
Screw came today. Installed her using blue loctite and attempted to torque to 10 in-lbs (their instructions) and screw snapped and head is spinning freely. Beyond frustrated with my first Steiner optic and at this rate last Steiner optic......
Are you a rocket scientist?At this point it's worth $0
Send it to me.
I know I said this already, but call them and get a shipping label. It is pretty painless to send it in and get it back, done correctly. Yeah, the scope will be gone for a couple of weeks, but that is what I would do in your shoes (and it is what I did personally).Screw came today. Installed her using blue loctite and attempted to torque to 10 in-lbs (their instructions) and screw snapped and head is spinning freely. Beyond frustrated with my first Steiner optic and at this rate last Steiner optic......
Screw came today. Installed her using blue loctite and attempted to torque to 10 in-lbs (their instructions) and screw snapped and head is spinning freely. Beyond frustrated with my first Steiner optic and at this rate last Steiner optic......
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How do you change the reticle color on this scope?I have a Steiner T6XI 3-18x56 with the MSR2 reticle. I haven’t used it on a rifle yet. Initial impressions are good. The turrets are just fine and the glass is good. My only initial complaint is that I would have liked the main reticle lines to match what the reticle looks like at the 10 mil mark. The reticle gets a bit thicker and much more bolder there. If the entirety of the reticle looked like that, it would be much more optimized for the 3-18 magnification that this scope offers. It’s unfortunate that Steiner didn’t do that.
you don’t.How do you change the reticle color on this scope?
Did you read the manual? Some of the settings are for Day, Night and NV.I bought a 3-18 scr2. I opened it and tried the illumination. Overcast day max brightness and zoom. I can get a hint of green if I'm looking at the right object. Besides at night the illumination is unusable. Is this a normal thing or should I send for warranty?
It was on the "11"Did you read the manual? Some of the settings are for Day, Night and NV.
Yeah illumination is not bright, but close to dusk it's gonna be good. It's not daylight brightIt was on the "11"
normal. Not daylight bright. Was hoping for brighter to help make the MSR2 more usable at 3x, bummer its not but a lot to like with this scope. Not as good as ATACR 4-16 glass but not too far off either especially given it has impressive FOV.I bought a 3-18 scr2. I opened it and tried the illumination. Overcast day max brightness and zoom. I can get a hint of green if I'm looking at the right object. Besides at night the illumination is unusable. Is this a normal thing or should I send for warranty?
You should look through the 30x version if you get a chance. I think it's longer design helps it's optical qualities.normal. Not daylight bright. Was hoping for brighter to help make the MSR2 more usable at 3x, bummer its not but a lot to like with this scope. Not as good as ATACR 4-16 glass but not too far off either especially given it has impressive FOV.