Re: Steroids Anyone ??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trevor300wsm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My opinion....taking PH's or "designer" juice is absolutely piss ignorant. Even considering taking such a thing shows a total lack of knowledge and research. Either make the decision to go to the dark side, or don't. This "almost" shit is for the birds.
Im in the gym 6 days a week and 95% of the guys I see are nowhere near their natural peak. They don't have a clue how to eat, how to lift, or how to supplement. People want to open a bottle and eat a pill that will compensate for their piss poor diet and lack of dedication in the gym. These are the same jack-off's that are usually in my way at the squat rack. </div></div>
this is 100% correct , not until to have maximized your natural potential is taking ANYTHING worth the risk involved. the reason guys make huge gains on their first 1-2 cycles of anything is because they have just taken an elevator to their peak rather. than the stairs after you reach your peak you either have to up the dose or maintain , if you up the dose you will eventual level off and stop making gains , this is not because the chemical stopped working it's because that much size is only what that much hormone will support and when you get off you will lose some size and strength because the hormone is no longer their to support the muscle.
the the guy that said 200mg is a waist , that is total horse shit and you don't know what your talking about , my HRT dose is 180mg every 7 days I take 200mg simply because that the dose of the compound , this dose has my total test levels in the 1000 range which is well above a normal natural level and for the guy in his 30-60's that is WAY more than enough to maintain good size and lower bodyfat.
Recommending sombody just right to a higher dose only shows your ignorance of this subject and proves you shouldent give adivce on it. A dose of 500mg of test a week will put of alot of quality size if you bust your ass in the gym and in the kitchen , but it's not without a cost , you run a much higher risk of side effects , from sime acne to Hugh blood pressure and gyno and to prevent these side you need to take more drugs, like Arimidex or letrozol which are both realy hard on your liver , you will also shut down your natural test production and if you are under 35 that's a bad thing because it may
not come back to prevent this you need to take more drugs like HCG and Clomid both of which have side effects like mood swings and shit.
if a guy wants to increase his size or strength and has honestly busted his ass with his diet and training then it's time to look at alternate measures , but for the love of all things holy cary your ass to the dr and have blood work done , see what your test levels are hell you may be low and can get a script !! see what your cholesterol and liver enzymes are doing see what shape your prostate is in , then just BEFORE you finish your "cycle" have it all checked again to see what damage was done.
I do not condone the use of drugs but I don't condem them either , if you have a goal and can't reach it then find a tool to help you but don't be a lazy fuck and think taking something is gonna give you better effect because you don't have the gumption to out out the effort.
I have proven several times to young men in highschool that want to take juice that with proper training and nutrition I can add just as much size and stregth to keep them even with their buddy's eating D-Bol and in. 8-16 weeks they won't lose NY of their hard earned size and have haven't done any damage to their body.
I highly recomend that before anybody sticks a needle in their ass or buys a couple hundred bucks on some toxic over the counter wonder designer hormone that you invest in hiring a trainer to get your lifting and nutrition on track for your goals , you will be far healthier and in the long run come out cheaper
