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Stop what you're doing. Fuck the EPA. And go buy this showerhead.

TheGerman

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    I think I've proven a theory to myself in that there are showerhead manufactures who go an extra step to fuck you out of water pressure/water flow that doesn't just end with shitty water regulator inserts.

    I have 2 showerheads upstairs and 2 downstairs. The larger guest room showerhead pressure is abysmal (sorry @clcustom1911 ) All the same brand but different configurations. I never liked the shower pressure in the master bathroom; it wasn't terrible, it also wasn't fantastic. I had a plumber check our water pressure when he was here and he confirmed I should be getting more water. I took the heads apart and took the regulators out. It improved but I was still under the impression from the amount of water it would shoot out with no showerhead on, that it should be more.

    I came across a forum where someone was talking about a similar issue. It was brought up to get one of these and be prepared to have your water bill go up:


    Got one for the hell of it.

    It comes with some crafty wink wink nod nod instructions attached to the showerhead. They know exactly what's up. I'm guessing to get around whatever EPA bullshit there is, they include a restrictor, yet it is extremely fragile. They mention that they included a second one just incase you break the first one. Why would you break it? Oh, because they mention you can use the other restrictor it comes with; its just a debris screen LOL

    Pull restrictor out, which basically melts, put debris screen in and screw it on. When I turned the water on, it was like someone was standing there with a fucking full pressure garden hose. Funny how even with any restrictor out of the big brand named ones the pressure still sucked, yet with this one, its 10x stronger. Hmmmmmm.

    If the normal 'high flow' restrictor showerheads are 1.8gpm, this has to be 2-3x that.
     
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    I drilled holes in the restrictor of my shower head. Way more pressure and flow now.

    Yeah I took mine out but it still sucked, and the showerhead wasn't clogged or full of sediment. I'm under the impression there are some manufacturers that design the actual head to just not exceed a certain output on purpose even with the restrictor out.
     
    I think I've proven a theory to myself in that there are showerhead manufactures who go an extra step to fuck you out of water pressure/water flow that doesn't just end with shitty water regulator inserts.

    I have 2 showerheads upstairs and 2 downstairs. The larger guest room showerhead pressure is abysmal (sorry @clcustom1911 ) All the same brand but different configurations. I never liked the shower pressure in the master bathroom; it wasn't terrible, it also wasn't fantastic. I had a plumber check our water pressure when he was here and he confirmed I should be getting more water. I took the heads apart and took the regulators out. It improved but I was still under the impression from the amount of water it would shoot out with no showerhead on, that it should be more.

    I came across a forum where someone was talking about a similar issue. It was brought up to get one of these and be prepared to have your water bill go up:


    Got one for the hell of it.

    It comes with some crafty wink wink nod nod instructions attached to the showerhead. They know exactly what's up. I'm guessing to get around whatever EPA bullshit there is, they include a restrictor, yet it is extremely fragile. They mention that they included a second one just incase you break the first one. Why would you break it? Oh, because they mention you can use the other restrictor it comes with; its just a debris screen LOL

    Pull restrictor out, which basically melts, put debris screen in and screw it on. When I turned the water on, it was like someone was standing there with a fucking full pressure garden hose. Funny how even with any restrictor out of the big brand named ones the pressure still sucked, yet with this one, its 10x stronger. Hmmmmmm.

    If the normal 'high flow' restrictor showerheads are 1.8gpm, this has to be 2-3x that.
    I was wondering when you were gonna get rid of that Poors shower head. Fuck. That thing was fucking terrible.
     
    I have a well, good water, no bill. Water goes back into the earth, down 130' and gets recycled. That said, I'm moving to a 70psi constant pressure system to power my 16" square rainfall showerhead and the above-mention 'water-waster" shower head (that goes with it).

    America - Fuck yeah!

    (Then I go on vacation and realize how anemic most showers are)
     
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    What are you doing with one of those Poors shower heads, a richer with 4 showers should be able to afford something like this.

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    That's like a hood rich wanna be shower 'panel'.

    In the master we have 2 showerheads in a shower 'room'. I'm waiting to end up changing the whole bathroom layout so that I can move the shower area along the length of a wall and have all of the water come out from the ceiling like you are literally standing in a hurricane getting rained on.
     
    I was wondering when you were gonna get rid of that Poors shower head. Fuck. That thing was fucking terrible.

    That showerhead in that guest room was actually expensive as fuck.

    It was also one of those that after the restrictor came out, it didn't improve the flow at all. It's either badly designed, or designed to never go above 1.8gpm because of the EPA bullshit.

    With the new showerhead down there too, its like having a bucket of water dumped on you.
     
    when i lived in the uk, had to live with something like this piece of shit, but older.
    that and the bullshit radiator type heaters meant you're fucking cold in the shower except maybe the 10 sq/inches that are getting some warm water dribbling on it. like showering with a coffee maker. heathens.

     
    when i lived in the uk, had to live with something like this piece of shit, but older.
    that and the bullshit radiator type heaters meant you're fucking cold in the shower except maybe the 10 sq/inches that are getting some warm water dribbling on it. like showering with a coffee maker. heathens.


    Pretty sure I dont want my shower wired.
     
    high flow shower heads are nothing, high flow shower valves, they are special.

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    I run 3 houses on the same property off an artesian well with 31 PSI.
    All valves have been modified (not expennsive values either) to remove restrictions to flow. The one knob bathtub control was taken apart and passages opened up. The shower port had a cast in 50% block.
     
    I wonder if this is the only model that provides high pressure or if their hand-held is just as good?

     
    If you trace supply pressure, water flowing past in-line restrictions (like an orifice) or restrictor plate will have less flow.
    The first and most likely place is the valve itself. This is where the .gov first applied limits to flow.
    The final holes in a shower head need to be small to have pressure to build up. Too large and it will flow like a garden hose with a valve only partially open.
    If the shower head discharges too much water the pressure after the valve will drop. Sounds like a balancing act :)
    Some bathtub/shower valves also have a anti-scald function that will thermostatically cut down hot flow.
    This can be adjusted on some valves but requires access to the valve body.


     
    I tried this as well and my pressure somehow decreased!!!! Pretty sure where I "enlarged" the hole, I messed with some fluid dynamics bullshit.
    "pressure" is the RESISTANCE to flow. Think of a hydro-electric dam's 'overflow' chute. When water flows over it, there is practically no 'pressure' there. Yet if you try to restrict it by putting up a wall, all of that mass falling into/onto said wall creates a 'high pressure' area.

    I'm not going to get into all the "Pascal's law" or anything like that. Just trying to help clarify one point.

    To complicate matters moreso, you probably have a 1/2" water supply. Chances are, it has been necked down from 5/8" or even 3/4". If you want "higher pressure" with an opened orifice, then you're going to have to support it with 'higher flow' which is changing out your water-lines from wherever they are restricted.

    The standard house 'supply' in this area, is 5/8". That is necked down to 1/2" because that tubing is cheaper. A friend re-plumbed his house supply to the water tank, and ever since then a person can flush the toilet at one end of the house while someone else is taking a hot shower, and the person in the shower never see's a difference.
     
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    "pressure" is the RESISTANCE to flow. Think of a hydro-electric dam's 'overflow' chute. When water flows over it, there is practically no 'pressure' there. Yet if you try to restrict it by putting up a wall, all of that mass falling into/onto said wall creates a 'high pressure' area.

    I'm not going to get into all the "Pascal's law" or anything like that. Just trying to help clarify one point.

    To complicate matters moreso, you probably have a 1/2" water supply. Chances are, it has been necked down from 5/8" or even 3/4". If you want "higher pressure" with an opened orifice, then you're going to have to support it with 'higher flow' which is changing out your water-lines from wherever they are restricted.

    The standard house 'supply' in this area, is 5/8". That is necked down to 1/2" because that tubing is cheaper. A friend re-plumbed his house supply to the water tank, and ever since then a person can flush the toilet at one end of the house while someone else is taking a hot shower, and the person in the shower never see's a difference.
    yes, you've just described Bernoulli :). What I thought I was doing at the time was clearing out the device that reducer thing. But, alas, what I was doing was modifying the constrictor which accelerates the water. So, yes, you're analyzis of my gut instinct and ignoring my physics classes in HS and University are spot on. :) :)
     
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