Re: Tango 51 - First time at the Range.... WOW!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lonewolf‏</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Everyone has an opinion as do I. I like <span style="text-decoration: underline">military</span> type rifles that are built to military standards because their [sic] is a reason for it. I don't particularily care for benchrest rifles because they have to be babied. Some like them some don't. Tac-Ops rifles kinda gives you the best of both worlds. An extremely accurate rifle with BR cability. Most would agree on that. If I had one thing negative to say about the rifle is that it's to damn good looking. Tac-Ops put's extra time making sure the rifle is top notch. I have read that over and over again. It's a decision proccess someone has to make depending on what they desire.
Take care brother;
Lw
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It makes sense that you would not want a benchrest rifle. Let's break down what a bench rest rifle is:
1) Stock - benchrest rifles are designed to ride bags and be shot free recoil. There is no cheek weld on a BR rifle. There are no studs for attaching a sling because BR rifles are not meant to be shot with a sling. Look at the ergonomics of a benchrest stock and it is very different from a tactical stock for a reason.
2) Action - a BR rifle will be a single shot (the vast majority of the time). Each cartridge is hand-fed into the rifle. You don't want this in a tactical rifle for obvious reasons. The action is typically glued in to maximize accuracy. Gluing in supposedly minimizes stress even more so than bedding. You don't want a glued in action on a tactical rifle because things break in the field and the rifle will likely need to be serviced.
3) Chambering - a BR rifle is chambered to less than SAAMI specs. Importantly, BR necks are so tight that they will not feed factory ammo. This minimizes the stress on the brass... but not practical for a field rifle.
4) Trigger - BR trigger pulls are measured in ounces. Jewel is preferred in the BR crowd. Jewels are also used in a lot of tactical rifles, though the big complaint is that they get gunked up in the field. Tactical rifles typically are set anywhere from 2 to 5 pounds. This prevents misfires. I have used a BR trigger pull in the field before and misfired without touching the trigger. Oops. 2 - 3 pounds is a pretty good min.
5) Optics - BR guns typically have high powered optics (20X+) that do not have subtended reticles. They like SFP because they want a relatively fine reticle at all magnifications. Fine adjustments don't work in the field, because it take a lot more clicks to dial the dope and the additional precision (about .125" @ 100 yds) doesn't really net you much.
I would not say that a Tac Ops gives you benchrest capability. As you can see from above, a Tac Ops would be wholly unsuited for BR. The only comparison between a Tac Ops and a benchrest gun is that it is extremely accurate and extremely well made.
Could you elaborate on what a <span style="text-decoration: underline">military</span> type rifle is and what the military standards are, so that I can better understand that? "Doesn't have to be babied" seems to be a criterion, but what specs go along with that criterion? How is a military tactical rifle different than other tactical rifles? I can think of a few things, but I would like to hear your point of view. You have obviously put a lot of thought into in spec'ing out a build, so I am curious.
Thanks!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lonewolf‏</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Everyone has an opinion as do I. I like <span style="text-decoration: underline">military</span> type rifles that are built to military standards because their [sic] is a reason for it. I don't particularily care for benchrest rifles because they have to be babied. Some like them some don't. Tac-Ops rifles kinda gives you the best of both worlds. An extremely accurate rifle with BR cability. Most would agree on that. If I had one thing negative to say about the rifle is that it's to damn good looking. Tac-Ops put's extra time making sure the rifle is top notch. I have read that over and over again. It's a decision proccess someone has to make depending on what they desire.
Take care brother;
Lw
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It makes sense that you would not want a benchrest rifle. Let's break down what a bench rest rifle is:
1) Stock - benchrest rifles are designed to ride bags and be shot free recoil. There is no cheek weld on a BR rifle. There are no studs for attaching a sling because BR rifles are not meant to be shot with a sling. Look at the ergonomics of a benchrest stock and it is very different from a tactical stock for a reason.
2) Action - a BR rifle will be a single shot (the vast majority of the time). Each cartridge is hand-fed into the rifle. You don't want this in a tactical rifle for obvious reasons. The action is typically glued in to maximize accuracy. Gluing in supposedly minimizes stress even more so than bedding. You don't want a glued in action on a tactical rifle because things break in the field and the rifle will likely need to be serviced.
3) Chambering - a BR rifle is chambered to less than SAAMI specs. Importantly, BR necks are so tight that they will not feed factory ammo. This minimizes the stress on the brass... but not practical for a field rifle.
4) Trigger - BR trigger pulls are measured in ounces. Jewel is preferred in the BR crowd. Jewels are also used in a lot of tactical rifles, though the big complaint is that they get gunked up in the field. Tactical rifles typically are set anywhere from 2 to 5 pounds. This prevents misfires. I have used a BR trigger pull in the field before and misfired without touching the trigger. Oops. 2 - 3 pounds is a pretty good min.
5) Optics - BR guns typically have high powered optics (20X+) that do not have subtended reticles. They like SFP because they want a relatively fine reticle at all magnifications. Fine adjustments don't work in the field, because it take a lot more clicks to dial the dope and the additional precision (about .125" @ 100 yds) doesn't really net you much.
I would not say that a Tac Ops gives you benchrest capability. As you can see from above, a Tac Ops would be wholly unsuited for BR. The only comparison between a Tac Ops and a benchrest gun is that it is extremely accurate and extremely well made.
Could you elaborate on what a <span style="text-decoration: underline">military</span> type rifle is and what the military standards are, so that I can better understand that? "Doesn't have to be babied" seems to be a criterion, but what specs go along with that criterion? How is a military tactical rifle different than other tactical rifles? I can think of a few things, but I would like to hear your point of view. You have obviously put a lot of thought into in spec'ing out a build, so I am curious.
Thanks!
