Tariffs and ammo prices?

Well, a lot of the ammo people are of course saying that this is gonna dry up current supply, force them to pay mega increases the next time they purchase, out a lot of suppliers out of biz and so on. In other words, they are saying the sky is falling in the ammo market.
What do you expect their reactions to be if they just learned there could be an additional 30% tax on raw materials?
 
Stock market took the biggest two day loss in the history of the stock market. At what point do you think we should show concern?
This might be news to younger folks or older ones who never studied economics, but the stock market isn’t even an indicator you would look at for US economic health and future outlook.

Gross Domestic Product, Unemployment, Inflation, DTI, Consumer confidence/CPI, and Median Income to Median Home price ratio are what I look at and analyze regularly.

The stock market is a trader’s market that most Americans are not involved with. It was originally meant for businesses and banks to invest in, to help promote economic expansion and wealth-sharing among companies.

Any time traders see an opportunity for volatility, they will shake the trees and drop whatever known-performing investments they have, so they can pick up with larger yields on the up-curve in the largest market on earth.

iu


US unemployment remains at historically-low rates, and will only get better as more industries are forced to relocate here. It was 5.6% in 1990, and is now 4%, on an overall downward trend over the past 35 years. The 2 main periods of outliers were the ’08 crash to 9.3%, and the COVID biowar crime in 2020, where it went to 8.1%.

CPI has been on an upward trend, which is really driven by inflation.

One major problem moving forward is nobody has really given a rip about our upcoming generations when it comes to housing, transportation, and household costs. With manufacturing, anyone could afford more than a decent home, transportation, and normal household expenses, while being able to have plenty of money left over for lifestyle improvements, vacations, plenty of children, and long-term stability.

These treasonous organized crime sell-outs in our Congress have cashed-out with foreign companies and lobbyists, selling our critical industrial base factories to the highest bidders and blackmailers. Both political parties have stepped on the gas to that end, as long as their candidates kept getting elected.

This is why they hate Trump so much. He represents and existential threat to their bribery schemes and personal profiteering at the expense of the Country. But somebody has to think of our future and the young Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and their posterity.

Congress already sold-out Gen X, but we were used to being abandoned by dual-income households with parents who were conditioned to chase material things instead of family-focus and the real American dream.
 
Well, a lot of the ammo people are of course saying that this is gonna dry up current supply, force them to pay mega increases the next time they purchase, out a lot of suppliers out of biz and so on. In other words, they are saying the sky is falling in the ammo market.
I’ve seen ammo wholesale prices, and they were closer to 50% of retail at one of my local stores.

I saw it on their wholesale list on one of their computer screens, at least for Hornady.

Some of the online sellers might be running a business model on 5% margins, which is their prerogative.

I just see it as another scare tactic to generate sales, which has been a core marketing model in the firearms industry conditioned by the volatile legal framework set by anti-2A politicians.

These politicians have also been caught investing in firearms companies, then threatening legislation to drive sales. We get played big time in the firearms world by the lower-tier scumbags who can’t play in higher value industries.
 
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This might be news to younger folks or older ones who never studied economics, but the stock market isn’t even an indicator you would look at for US economic health and future outlook.

Gross Domestic Product, Unemployment, Inflation, DTI, Consumer confidence/CPI, and Median Income to Median Home price ratio are what I look at and analyze regularly.

The stock market is a trader’s market that most Americans are not involved with. It was originally meant for businesses and banks to invest in, to help promote economic expansion and wealth-sharing among companies.

Any time traders see an opportunity for volatility, they will shake the trees and drop whatever known-performing investments they have, so they can pick up with larger yields on the up-curve in the largest market on earth.

iu


US unemployment remains at historically-low rates, and will only get better as more industries are forced to relocate here. It was 5.6% in 1990, and is now 4%, on an overall downward trend over the past 35 years. The 2 main periods of outliers were the ’08 crash to 9.3%, and the COVID biowar crime in 2020, where it went to 8.1%.

CPI has been on an upward trend, which is really driven by inflation.

One major problem moving forward is nobody has really given a rip about our upcoming generations when it comes to housing, transportation, and household costs. With manufacturing, anyone could afford more than a decent home, transportation, and normal household expenses, while being able to have plenty of money left over for lifestyle improvements, vacations, plenty of children, and long-term stability.

These treasonous organized crime sell-outs in our Congress have cashed-out with foreign companies and lobbyists, selling our critical industrial base factories to the highest bidders and blackmailers. Both political parties have stepped on the gas to that end, as long as their candidates kept getting elected.

This is why they hate Trump so much. He represents and existential threat to their bribery schemes and personal profiteering at the expense of the Country. But somebody has to think of our future and the young Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and their posterity.

Congress already sold-out Gen X, but we were used to being abandoned by dual-income households with parents who were conditioned to chase material things instead of family-focus and the real American dream.
I agree on the whole and the stock market is not the best indicator of economic health. But, to the people who have lost tens of even hundreds of thousands from there retirement savings, it is hard not to focus on the policy triggers.

I have no idea if we will end up better off or worse off, this feels like a big gamble and I would have preferred a more incremental approach.
 
Rand Paul



The Constitution grants Congress alone the authority to impose tariffs.

I don't think what is being proposed has anything to do with authorizing Trump to impose terriffs, as pointed out they have authorized the president to impose tariffs sometimes under some conditions

It has to do with Congress maintaining their authority over terriffs even as they allow a President to impose them.
 
Just remember that there are no ways in a global market to prop up workers in industries that can't compete without raising prices and lowering the standard of living. I want America strong, I also want a F150 for under $100k.

That’s the thing…

Our high standard of living - the same construct which lets us live in comfort and purchase affordable F150s - all comes at the expense of somebody else being screwed over, getting ripped off and exploited in some sweatshop, elsewhere on this little planet of ours.

Our dollar - and I fail to understand how exactly, in detail - has purchased trillions in excess of its actual value due to our hegemony, and the dollar’s “exorbitant privilege.” [better clarification needed here]

We were already in the process of shooting ourselves in the foot, even prior to these tariffs, with all those countries we’ve exploited turning their backs on us…

…odds are, within a decade or two, we’ll probably be only a bit more well - off than a middling European country.
 
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Well, a lot of the ammo people are of course saying that this is gonna dry up current supply, force them to pay mega increases the next time they purchase, out a lot of suppliers out of biz and so on. In other words, they are saying the sky is falling in the ammo market.
AAC has been my Go-to for a while now. That amd I've been stocking up on components for the last 4-5 years. I wouldn't say I'm "good" on supplies, because you can never have enough, but, ya know, I'm kinda "good" 🤣


And re: money. I don't have 100k, but I'm all about getting the best percentage return (duh) it's fun.

Usury works both ways 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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Stock market took the biggest two day loss in the history of the stock market. At what point do you think we should show concern?
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A Taiwanese buddy of mine who used to own a massive manufacturing company in Taiwan (he hates China LOL). You may have heard of his company if you heard of this thing;

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Could tariffs be a prelude, to abolishing income tax?


More like a prelude to something like
the Plaza Accord (1985)

The United States missed the moment when the post-industrial economy ceased to produce tangible results and advantages over other, less developed countries.
At that time, which didn't last that long IT sector services were very expensive and everything else was very cheap. Except for weapons, oil and drugs.
The US, as a generator of technological innovations, did not see the point in doing low-productivity things
Therefore, production was moved abroad to further reduce the cost of production.
But now all these technological innovations are commonplace. Even in developing countries and are relatively inexpensive.
This has led to a growing trade imbalance, which was suppressed by printing dollars. The miracle did not happen and the imbalance increased.
There were hopes for AI that it would give 40 percent of productivity, but everything is still postponed.

Those of you who are in favor of reducing the trade deficit in a shocking way, do you even realize that after this, instead of Irish butter, you will eat margarine at best, and save six months' salary for a new refrigerator? And if you also reduce the budget deficit (and this will have to be done, because who will cover it after the devaluation of the dollar), then you will have to plant carrots near your house instead of a lawn.
Why is it that as soon as I make good arguments that get likes, I get attacked by people who have to rely upon labels and school yard insults. I don't need to defend who I am, if you can't come up with an intelligent argument to contribute, go back to posting the propaganda your handler gave you.
Because people without proper education do this under the influence of propaganda and conspiracy theories.
This is the only thing that the informational post-industrial society can boast of so far. Ease of influence on the uneducated masses of people.
ps. These people are present in this thread too.
pps. Unfortunately, eugenics experiments have long been suspended in the United States; they could have saved the situation
 
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More like a prelude to something like
the Plaza Accord (1985)

The United States missed the moment when the post-industrial economy ceased to produce tangible results and advantages over other, less developed countries.
At that time, which didn't last that long IT sector services were very expensive and everything else was very cheap. Except for weapons, oil and drugs.
The US, as a generator of technological innovations, did not see the point in doing low-productivity things
Therefore, production was moved abroad to further reduce the cost of production.
But now all these technological innovations are commonplace. Even in developing countries and are relatively inexpensive.
This has led to a growing trade imbalance, which was suppressed by printing dollars. The miracle did not happen and the imbalance increased.
There were hopes for AI that it would give 40 percent of productivity, but everything is still postponed.

Those of you who are in favor of reducing the trade deficit in a shocking way, do you even realize that after this, instead of Irish butter, you will eat margarine at best, and save six months' salary for a new refrigerator? And if you also reduce the budget deficit (and this will have to be done, because who will cover it after the devaluation of the dollar), then you will have to plant carrots near your house instead of a lawn.

Because people without proper education do this under the influence of propaganda and conspiracy theories.
This is the only thing that the informational post-industrial society can boast of so far. Ease of influence on the uneducated masses of people.
ps. These people are present in this thread too.
pps. Unfortunately, eugenics experiments have long been suspended in the United States; they could have saved the situation
Wow, you seem nice…
 
Rand Paul



An ophthalmologist and a billionaire walk into a bar....

So anyway.....

I like Rand Paul and his father a lot. We would be better with more statesmen like them in Congress, but both of them combined don’t have a fraction of the real-world economic and business sense that Trump does.

We’re talking entirely different worlds here. They are not even B players among the shark-infested waters Trump was forged in.

Now is not the time for comments from the peanut gallery.