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- Thread starter Joel Russo
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Well they are all the same deep black color. So if the underlying metal type matters...
Interesting. I don't really mind the different colors. But it would be cool if that information had been disclosed up front.
You’ll probably find that variation fades pretty rapidly after you put a couple hundred rounds on it and some cleanings.
Finally got my Zues QC put together in 6.5 CM. Took 20 rounds of Hornady 140 gr Eld-m and 20 rounds of Federal 140 BTHP to the range to break it and me in. Probably not smart to adjust and feel out a new chassis at the same time as a new barrel, action, bipod, trigger...etc, but oh well. I wanted to get things fleshed out before starting load development and see what the bore looked like for cleaning after 40 rounds.
After 20 rounds, it and me were finally adjusted and settled, so I tried an experiment since this IS a QC action. I shot 5 rounds of each, then loosened the QC screws, broke the barrel free (just half a turn), snapped it back on, torqued the QC screws, and shot 5 more. NO POI SHIFT! Action is bedded in a MDT ACC with Marine-Tex. I did not remove the action from the chassis when i broke the barrel free.
And no noticeable copper fouling. Barrel is a 26" Bartlein LH gain twist 8.25-7.5. Chambered by Bugholes.
Add: I think I might still have the target. I'll post pics of it and the rifle soon.
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As promised... Pic of current set up.
Pic of Federal and Hornady 5 round groups on same target after resetting barrel.
Pic of settled upon load. 5 rounds @200 yards.
After 20 rounds, it and me were finally adjusted and settled, so I tried an experiment since this IS a QC action. I shot 5 rounds of each, then loosened the QC screws, broke the barrel free (just half a turn), snapped it back on, torqued the QC screws, and shot 5 more. NO POI SHIFT! Action is bedded in a MDT ACC with Marine-Tex. I did not remove the action from the chassis when i broke the barrel free.
And no noticeable copper fouling. Barrel is a 26" Bartlein LH gain twist 8.25-7.5. Chambered by Bugholes.
Add: I think I might still have the target. I'll post pics of it and the rifle soon.
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As promised... Pic of current set up.
Pic of Federal and Hornady 5 round groups on same target after resetting barrel.
Pic of settled upon load. 5 rounds @200 yards.
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Recently finished my night hunting setup on an Apollo
- Terminus Apollo
- Manners LRH with 10” Arcalock rail
- 20” proof 6cm 7.5 twist done by Bugholes
- Triggertech diamond flat
- Hawkins M5 DBM
- MDT AICS mag
- Iray Bolt TH50C
- Currently using a Nomad-L while I wait for my 6” titanium
- Terminus Apollo
- Manners LRH with 10” Arcalock rail
- 20” proof 6cm 7.5 twist done by Bugholes
- Triggertech diamond flat
- Hawkins M5 DBM
- MDT AICS mag
- Iray Bolt TH50C
- Currently using a Nomad-L while I wait for my 6” titanium
While the finish might be affected, a QPQ (nitriding process) will harden the actual metal surface to a depth of about .01" or so. The DLC is a surface coating.
I'm not saying one is better than the other.
Just got a Kratos lite. Is there a specific recommendation for torque on the picatinny screws?
I am really considering a Zeus SA QC. The primary caliber I’d run would be 6.5PRC. Does anyone have any experience with 6.5PRC with their Zeus? Just curious about any mag issues and if the barrel set screws ever back out or fail? I’m sold on the Zeus just wondering if I should do QC or full threading.
My thought is get the action with the quick change, and then you can use either style of barrel. You would just torque on the full thread instead of using the screws.
Well I decided on qc. I called Terminus and spoke to someone and was told the Zeus was designed around short magnums so 6.5PRC will be no problem and if there is any issues they will back their action 100%. So far I’m extremely impressed with Terminus and I don’t even own an action yet
Finally got everything to finish setting up my Kratos Lite
Proof 22” 1:8 done by bugholes in 7 PRC
MDT HNT 26
Nightforce NX8 4-32x50
Triggertech Diamond Flat
Hawkins Ultralight Rings
MDT mag
Waiting on Dead Air Nomad-Ti
Proof 22” 1:8 done by bugholes in 7 PRC
MDT HNT 26
Nightforce NX8 4-32x50
Triggertech Diamond Flat
Hawkins Ultralight Rings
MDT mag
Waiting on Dead Air Nomad-Ti
Don’t know exactly yet, got a kitchen scale on the way from Bezos, will update when it arrives.
I just finished an identical rifle only difference being a Zeus SA QC, Vortex LHT scope and 419 hellfire brakes. 24" 6.5PRC, 22" 6.5CM and 22" 6GT proof barrels.
It weighs 8.7 Lbs without a mag or bipod and with the 24" 6.5 PRC barrel.
If anyone is wondering, the HNT26 stock covers the quick change set screws on the SA Zeus QC. I'm probably going to machine a little notch or holes in the chassis to remedy this.
Thanks, putting together a similar build. I suspected as much regarding the QC screws being covered so nice for get confirmation. Now I know what I am dealing with.
I had one that wouldn’t shoot till the bolt was swapped by bugholes. Had a LOT of money and time tied up in barrels/scope/stock/silencer x2 and all the ammo I wasted.
Body has a shop thar cuts barrels etc. Had same issue. Put a 308/65 bolt in gun would shoot lights out
Just wanted to see if others had the same issue.
I got my action last year and have put less than 400 rounds through it. I have kept a light film of oil on the bolt body and some grease on the lugs. After I went shooting for the second time I noticed some wear on the body near the handle and a couple spots on the fluting as well as on the lugs. Is anyone else having wear like this on their bolt? Or is this just normal wear for a bolt.
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I have about 50 rounds on mine and am showing a little more wear on the bolt body and maybe a little less on the lugs. My lugs aren't wearing in the corners like yours, but rather in the middle.
I assume it's somewhat normal as DLC coatings are pretty thin... I thought mine was wearing a little quickly however. I also keep. it lubed properly.
I assume it's somewhat normal as DLC coatings are pretty thin... I thought mine was wearing a little quickly however. I also keep. it lubed properly.
I have one lug that has wear in the center and the corners look fine. I keep a thin film of oil on it but I'm gonna give the BoreTech Qwik-Dri Lube a try to see if it helps slow the rate that the finish gets worn off.
If your showing wear on DLC after 50 rounds I’d have the coater or oem take a look.
Without seeing the gun, it looks like the mag is sitting a little high and the lips of the mag are pushing/rubbing on the bottom of the bolt. Also likely means it has uneven pressure on it when being cycled and going into battery.
Keep the action and bolt clean and oiled, make sure nothing is rubbing when you move the bolt back and forth and close it with the magazine in. Only way to keep something brand new looking is not to use it.
In my experience, the bolt will show some wear initially, but will pretty much stop once those high surfaces have create clearance through use and friction. Here is one of my bolts that has probably 7-8k rounds on it. Some in pretty dirty and harsh conditions.
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I would say that’s pretty normal, but consider yourself lucky. I got a bad batch of dlc (super easy on and has since been changed manufactures) and I have so much dlc gone!!!
8lb 11.5oz with no mag or muzzle device, and 6lb 10oz without the scope and rings
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My ship times for a Short action QC ordered first week of November, received at FFL December 2nd.
My CIP Long Action QC was ordered at the same time and i am still waiting.
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Have done quite a few actions with both dlc black and fde. FDE wears faster, but both wear. Don't expect a miracle, it's a coating and will show wear.
Same goes for the nitride case hardening. However the nitride is smoother of the two..
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Can anyone confirm or deny if Hawkins Hybrid rings will work with a Terminus Apollo Lite?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
I think I'm about 5 weeks into my lead time on a full thread LA zeus. I believe Joel told me 8 weeks or so but I can't recall.
No they don’t. The Zeus has an integral rail. Their ultra-lights are awesome though
I’m part of the cool kids club now.
It came with the 20” 308 on it now. Bugholes should have my 18” 308 and 24” 6.5c tubes done any day now.
It came with the 20” 308 on it now. Bugholes should have my 18” 308 and 24” 6.5c tubes done any day now.
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good looking rig
