That's a HARD NO -- on Globalist DeSantis.

[W54/XM-388]

Say what you want but actions speak louder than words.
Trump was NO friend to the 2A when he was in power.
Trump was not all that interested in constitutional freedoms, including the 2A and due process.
Trump did manage to get one tax cut pushed through and he did manage to get a bunch of not terrible judges into the judiciary.

DeSantis has actually gotten a lot done on what he promised and managed to roll back a lot of the left wing B.S.
He got the job done in the legislature by knowing how to work the levers of power properly.

Trump is pushing 80 he needs to ride off into the sunset and enjoy his mythical status to have a comfortable life being somewhat relevant in politics.
I'm sure he could cut a deal to have folks stop bothering him in exchange for not trying to upset the primary applecart.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Y'all ain't paying attention.
Who went after Gen Flynn? Who started the Russia Hoax? Who backed Trump on building the wall? Who was behind the censorship on social media during the plandemic? Who started the plandemic, bats or fauxchi? Who was behind flatten the curve for two years plus? Who passed the omnibus spending during a lame duck session? Who's allowed peaceful protestors from Jan 6 to sit in jail for over two years ? Which court ever looked into voter fraud in 20 or 22? Who condemned Tucker Carlson for showing the Jan 6 video? Which alphabet agency is not corrupted? Who pulled funding from candidates that could have won and given the republicants a Red Wave? Impeached for a phone call to zelenski and for an insurrection ? Do you trust the media?
Do I need to go on?

And the shouts of DESANTIS/ TRUMP echo in the air.
" I'll vote for the lesser of two evils." Bwaaaahahaha .
If you know the answer to half of the questions you know that voting Is Not going to fix anything.
Prepare. You are living in a historical time. The final stages of a once great country.
Prove me wrong.

This^^^^
Mic drop.
Fade to black.

Like a bunch of fooking chatty Cathy dolls.
THE REPUBLIC IS DEAD! You aren't even controlling who is chosen as a candidate anymore. That little slip up in 2016? They closed that little loophole. That's not gonna happen again.

 

[W54/XM-388]

That little slip up in 2016? They closed that little loophole. That's not gonna happen again.

I actually don't think it was a slip up.
If you look back over the past 30 years of elections, follow carefully and look and see what the Global Elites and the Deep State managed to slip in as they let the people play ping pong with the "rival parties."

Hillary could have never given the Global Elites and the Deep State all the things Trump gave them.

 

[wade2big]

I’m guessing you guys that are blinded by I don’t even know what at this point, still believe in the toothfairy, easter bunny, and santa clause. The constitution is irrelevant. The gov’t is far from beholden to it. If you believe the constitution is the true law of the land then you must understand there is no rule of law any longer considering it’s been discarded years ago. Playing pretend and voting in fake elections for preselected “candidates” that are beholden to the shadow gov’t that operates outside of the constitution is a fools errand. Playing along only legitimizes the illegitimate. You would be better served speaking understanding this and sharing the truth with people.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

We put nukes in Turkey first. Before the Russians sent the first ship load of nukes to Cuba, we had stood up and put Atlas missles in Turkey on the border with Russia. So in reality, Kennedy was upset because the Russians did EXACTLY the same thing we had done the year before.

Who blinked? We did. Because the Russians turned around after Kennedy sucked their dicks and agreed to pull our missles off of their borders. The Russians got what they wanted.

Yes and no... The USSR blinked publically. We blinked privately. And the missiles that they took out of Turkey and Italy were already obsolete (despite having been installed just a year or two earlier) and already scheduled for removal.

At the time, the ICBM was coming on line as were SLBM's and so the need to have that specific missile type so near the USSR..

In the end, Kruschev got removed from office for adventurism (and because he blinked). By Breszhnev who was much more conniving as a younger man. Senile as an old one. And Kennedy got removed from office by, well, everyone if you believe the conspiracy theories. Maybe or maybe not due to the Missile Crisis.

The posittive of the missile crisis was that people woke up to how close the whole thing had been to a global war that would have been very, very, very bad for humanity. And folks started to look at ways to 'get along' better. For one, the 'hotline' came out of the missile crisis. As did a lot of diplomatic checks, balances and back doors for diplomacy. New policies and strategies came out of it that kept us from destroying each other.

Not giving Kennedy a total pass... the whole Kennedy clan was and is a disaster. But the missile crisis was a win for the US in public. But a much bigger win for humanity. And while your argument that Kennedy blinked has merit... both sides blinked. Which was somewhat how the world survived October '62.

Sirhr

PS. The real winner of the missile crisis was Castro. Because he got a tacit promise that the USA would not invade again. Letting him focus on internal dissent and on propping up his regime. He stayed in office despite egging on Kruschev to fire missiles. Castro knew that Cuba would be totally destroyed in an exchange. But he thought a destroyed Communist Cuba was better than a Cuba with Yanquee influence. Castro was a complete nutcase and damn near was the spark that set everything off.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

I actually don't think it was a slip up.
If you look back over the past 30 years of elections, follow carefully and look and see what the Global Elites and the Deep State managed to slip in as they let the people play ping pong with the "rival parties."

Hillary could have never given the Global Elites and the Deep State all the things Trump gave them.

We will agree to disagree.
I'm looking back over the last 36 years of elections.
2016 was rigged for Hillary to win. It was clear they underestimated the votes they would need. The results were unprecedented.

You don't think Hillary would give them what they wanted?
Trump isn't in the club, Hillary is.
What you are saying makes no sense.
Unless you are suggesting the globalist are playing some kind of 4d chess.

 

[BCP]

Say what you want but actions speak louder than words.
Trump was NO friend to the 2A when he was in power.
Trump was not all that interested in constitutional freedoms, including the 2A and due process.
Trump did manage to get one tax cut pushed through and he did manage to get a bunch of not terrible judges into the judiciary.

DeSantis has actually gotten a lot done on what he promised and managed to roll back a lot of the left wing B.S.
He got the job done in the legislature by knowing how to work the levers of power properly.

Trump is pushing 80 he needs to ride off into the sunset and enjoy his mythical status to have a comfortable life being somewhat relevant in politics.
I'm sure he could cut a deal to have folks stop bothering him in exchange for not trying to upset the primary applecart.

Trump was still better than pretty much every other President we have had in our lifetimes. Reagan was arguably better or worse, certainly a better politician as he won in a landslide. I’d have to go back to Eisenhower to find another that I like.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Y'all ain't paying attention.
Who went after Gen Flynn? Who started the Russia Hoax? Who backed Trump on building the wall? Who was behind the censorship on social media during the plandemic? Who started the plandemic, bats or fauxchi? Who was behind flatten the curve for two years plus? Who passed the omnibus spending during a lame duck session? Who's allowed peaceful protestors from Jan 6 to sit in jail for over two years ? Which court ever looked into voter fraud in 20 or 22? Who condemned Tucker Carlson for showing the Jan 6 video? Which alphabet agency is not corrupted? Who pulled funding from candidates that could have won and given the republicants a Red Wave? Impeached for a phone call to zelenski and for an insurrection ? Do you trust the media?
Do I need to go on?

And the shouts of DESANTIS/ TRUMP echo in the air.
" I'll vote for the lesser of two evils." Bwaaaahahaha .
If you know the answer to half of the questions you know that voting Is Not going to fix anything.
Prepare. You are living in a historical time. The final stages of a once great country.
Prove me wrong.

For the slow kids in the back, what does all this preparation look like?

 

[W54/XM-388]

We will agree to disagree.
I'm looking back over the last 36 years of elections.
2016 was rigged for Hillary to win. It was clear they underestimated the votes they would need. The results were unprecedented.

You don't think Hillary would give them what they wanted?
Trump isn't in the club, Hillary is.
What you are saying makes no sense.
Unless you are suggesting the globalist are playing some kind of 4d chess.

It's probably because in my case, I tend to believe (which may be completely silly and wrong), that the actual real Global Elites that you don't see the faces of much are essentially in the end stages of a 300 year plan to replace the old feudal system of kings and queens with a new feudal system of the Global Elite, that they control and are the masters of, in preparation to bring the teachings of the Illuminated One as the salvation for humanity as they swore to do so very long ago.

Recently, Bush Jr, gave them the ability to openly turn the country into a surveillance state and give the government all kinds of unprecedented powers.
Obama kicked up their "race war" stuff into overdrive to sow dissention while packing the officer class of the military, with left wing obedient types, as well as ensuring the same for almost every federal government department and packing as many as he could into the courts, and every level of society and government as possible.

But what Trump gave them was what they really needed for ultimate control. Freedom never dies with a whimper, it dies to thunderous applause.
Trump was the "boogey man" that the Global Elites needed to get all the supposed "left wing" types totally onboard with jumping headlong into a full on 1984 state. Complete takeover of all the means of communications by the Elites, with harsh censorship for anything they didn't agree with "to preserve democracy" as well as full on open rigging elections "for the good of the country".

If you asked you average left wing crazy back in 2015 if the government should censor and control all the media and everything you could and couldn't say and rig the elections and such and only allow approved speech and crush all opposition, they would have been like... that's not what we want.
Flip to 2021 and they were all begging for it, demanding it, cheering for it, because "anything to stop orange man bad and his followers".

Trump was the excuse they needed to get the sheep to beg for their own enslavement.
And they rightly calculated all the "good folks" would have too much to lose and be too complacent after thinking they "won" for 4 years to be willing to do anything about it when it mattered.

You look at how things happened in 1984 and almost everything is just as scheduled, including the regular scheduled "rage" memory holing everything, constantly rewriting history, everyone openly being forced to accept what they know to be lies etc.

I may be wrong, and perhaps overestimate the intelligence of the enemy.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

I'm starting small in 2024. Hoping for someone under 100 years old, with most of their mental facilities intact, no history of fucking porn stars or children and only mild corruption problems. With any luck the support the 2nd amendment to some degree.

 

[Maggot]

Unless you are suggesting the globalist are playing some kind of 4d chess.

The ones behind, and pulling the strings, of the global elite, are doing exactly that, while most plod along in plain old 3D.

They have been slowly implementing their plan for (at least) a couple hundred years.

Unfortunately, they haven't read the literature below or they would know, ultimately, their plan will fail.

biblehub.com › revelationRevelation: The Book of Revelation (The Apocalypse of John)​

Revelation 1. 1 This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon a come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2

Because Christ plays 5D for the (ultimate) win.

Could get nasty in the interim.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

It's probably because in my case, I tend to believe (which may be completely silly and wrong), that the actual real Global Elites that you don't see the faces of much are essentially in the end stages of a 300 year plan to replace the old feudal system of kings and queens with a new feudal system of the Global Elite, that they control and are the masters of, in preparation to bring the teachings of the Illuminated One as the salvation for humanity as they swore to do so very long ago.

Recently, Bush Jr, gave them the ability to openly turn the country into a surveillance state and give the government all kinds of unprecedented powers.
Obama kicked up their "race war" stuff into overdrive to sow dissention while packing the officer class of the military, with left wing obedient types, as well as ensuring the same for almost every federal government department and packing as many as he could into the courts, and every level of society and government as possible.

But what Trump gave them was what they really needed for ultimate control. Freedom never dies with a whimper, it dies to thunderous applause.
Trump was the "boogey man" that the Global Elites needed to get all the supposed "left wing" types totally onboard with jumping headlong into a full on 1984 state. Complete takeover of all the means of communications by the Elites, with harsh censorship for anything they didn't agree with "to preserve democracy" as well as full on open rigging elections "for the good of the country".

If you asked you average left wing crazy back in 2015 if the government should censor and control all the media and everything you could and couldn't say and rig the elections and such and only allow approved speech and crush all opposition, they would have been like... that's not what we want.
Flip to 2021 and they were all begging for it, demanding it, cheering for it, because "anything to stop orange man bad and his followers".

Trump was the excuse they needed to get the sheep to beg for their own enslavement.
And they rightly calculated all the "good folks" would have too much to lose and be too complacent after thinking they "won" for 4 years to be willing to do anything about it when it mattered.

You look at how things happened in 1984 and almost everything is just as scheduled, including the regular scheduled "rage" memory holing everything, constantly rewriting history, everyone openly being forced to accept what they know to be lies etc.

I may be wrong, and perhaps overestimate the intelligence of the enemy.

Eeaaa..uuhhh.....damn, yeah, yeah....I see it now.
Trump was a useful idiot.

The globalist Alphabits who are assigned to mine all my data:

And now we are desperately committed to a "hopeless cause". It is genius.

 

[Maggot]

It's probably because in my case, I tend to believe (which may be completely silly and wrong), that the actual real Global Elites that you don't see the faces of much are essentially in the end stages of a 300 year plan to replace the old feudal system of kings and queens with a new feudal system of the Global Elite, that they control and are the masters of, in preparation to bring the teachings of the Illuminated One as the salvation for humanity as they swore to do so very long ago.



I may be wrong, and perhaps overestimate the intelligence of the enemy.

In my long considered opinion, youre not wrong at all. I think we likely agree on who, or which very small group, is pulling the strings.

 

[SmileMaker]

Unfortunately if Trump doesn't win the Republican nomination I'll wager he runs 3rd party. Not for spite (although I wouldn't put it past him) but for $$$$. He has amassed quite a war chest that can only be laundered politically to his financial advantage....

 

[JR_77]

Unless you are suggesting the globalist are playing some kind of 4d chess.

I thought Trump was the master of 4D chess? Or at least that’s what I’ve been told repeatedly over the years.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Here's the "other" problem.
"We gotta get our guy in, so we can fix some stuff!"
Sober up. You are drunk. Its ok, I drank that kool-aid too. Get off the sauce, sober up.

Whether you know it or not, here is a simple fact: They have been tearing down your 2A rights for 89 years. Complete with a "distraction" every single time.
Hell, you weren't even paying attention to it for 50 of those years.
In '68 they distracted you with "colored" issues, while they really tightened the noose.

Glen Beck didn't invent the Overton Window, its always existed.

They have distracted us so long, that we can't even see they completely control the game, and have for quite a while.

We run around, still yammering about "getting our man" in the WH.
So.....you think 4 years can erase the progress of 90 years?
Theyve actually been working on this plan for at least 150 years.
So.....if we can get our man in for 2 full terms, we can turn the wheel? Stem the tide?
"They" have used our system against us.
The flaws were built in on purpose.
Its been a grand ride.
You can't fix it in 8 years, you couldn't fix it in 80.

We will be given a crisis to rally behind, to wave the flag. Its all been a game. The serfs always pay the cost in blood.
The rest of the monkeys will beat you down for "disrespecting the cause".
The cause is rooted and grounded in evil.

Oh yeah, and another thing.
Our country isn't a Christian nation. Its roots aren't Christian. You've been fooled, literally by the oldest lie on the planet.
That 10 commandments on the courthouse?
God didn't put it there. Its a grand trick.

 

[Romeo458]

Untill we get off our asses and do more than vote amd send money to the NRA we will continue to loose regardless of election outcome. Elections only change if they use lube on us or not when they fuck us

 

[armorpl8chikn]

I thought Trump was the master of 4D chess? Or at least that’s what I’ve been told repeatedly over the years.

The alternative was....unthinkable.
We thought Q was real too....right through the whole "kraacken" bullshit.

Its a fookin mess.

 

[acudaowner]

sounds like socialist bs , to try and mirky the waters around DeSantis . I trust no politician ever they are corrupt . But must give credit to the man for pissing the dims and socialist off if he runs It would be a hard call for me to make to vote for him over trump who makes the left self destruct if fits of pansy ass range ( I find it funny as hell to watch and highly enjoyable ). But I do get that Desantis could have an 8 year run if he is president to trumps only 4 . And with all the stuff the dims have wrecked it's going to take far more than just 4 years to start to correct it all ( republican politicians are lazy and need to nap after a win of any kind . I would be really in favor of a trump / deSantis ticket or even a trump / haley ticket giving trump his last 4 years and the other candidate to take over after him if they don't botch the VP job up like old camel (kamala Harris ) is doing .. but reguardless of who is running the scum sucking democratic socialist have to go ( they will probibaly win seeing they can and will mass produce any votes they need when they need them that and people really are not very smart pa , ny , nj , ca keep electing the same trash to run amuck time after time ) .

 

[kenny1773]

Trump isn't in the club,

How is that possible? He checks all the boxes to be a member...

and if he were really a threat to anyone or anything, he would have been suicided or met with a horrible accident by now

 

[kenny1773]

Trump is a pon in someone's game of 4D chess

FIFY

 

[supercorndogs]

Forming opinions based on soundbites is foolish at best. Treat social media the same as the graffiti in a port o John. And no, that plastic pipe is not a straw for the Mexican sheet rockers (big surprise for some I know).

Judge people by their ACTIONS.

Voted for Trump twice, but even so he screwed up plenty in 4 years.

Kushner had too much influence, and steered him wrong often.

Trump pushed the bump ban. Which basically caused the brace ban.

Trump made the vax possible, and therefore indirectly caused the mandates.

Trump will be a lame duck the day he is sworn in. Can only do one term.

Desantis’ record is impeccable. His service in the military distinguished. He makes decisions based on what he believes to be in the best interests of his constituents.

People can try to paint him as something he isn’t using clips or soundbites. But if you just look at every ACTION he has taken no one has come close in modern politics. No one.

This is the problem today. No one judges these politicians on ACTIONS. Dems are allowed to lie through their teeth and do the opposite of what they say and get away with it.

 

[atomic41]

Here's the "other" problem.
"We gotta get our guy in, so we can fix some stuff!"
Sober up. You are drunk. Its ok, I drank that kool-aid too. Get off the sauce, sober up.

Whether you know it or not, here is a simple fact: They have been tearing down your 2A rights for 89 years. Complete with a "distraction" every single time.
Hell, you weren't even paying attention to it for 50 of those years.
In '68 they distracted you with "colored" issues, while they really tightened the noose.

Glen Beck didn't invent the Overton Window, its always existed.

They have distracted us so long, that we can't even see they completely control the game, and have for quite a while.

We run around, still yammering about "getting our man" in the WH.
So.....you think 4 years can erase the progress of 90 years?
Theyve actually been working on this plan for at least 150 years.
So.....if we can get our man in for 2 full terms, we can turn the wheel? Stem the tide?
"They" have used our system against us.
The flaws were built in on purpose.
Its been a grand ride.
You can't fix it in 8 years, you couldn't fix it in 80.

We will be given a crisis to rally behind, to wave the flag. Its all been a game. The serfs always pay the cost in blood.
The rest of the monkeys will beat you down for "disrespecting the cause".
The cause is rooted and grounded in evil.

Oh yeah, and another thing.
Our country isn't a Christian nation. Its roots aren't Christian. You've been fooled, literally by the oldest lie on the planet.
That 10 commandments on the courthouse?
God didn't put it there. Its a grand trick.

 

[Doc68]

Does this mean the Kraken is being released.......

Doc

 

[wade2big]

Politicians don’t run the country. The three branches of gov’t at this point are a front and nothing more. Those we pretend to elect are mere figureheads. You can either keep voting harder, backing the blue, and thanking a soldier, or you can start spreading the truth and waking people the fuck up. When a large portion of society stops giving a fuck what these criminals do and stop allowing them power over us, we can prevail. All we have to do is to say fuck them, stop respecting the authority of their enforcers, and walk away ignoring their demands completely. Those that try and force the will of tyrants are obviously on the other side. Now to convince enough people of that…..

 

[Ronws]

Does this mean the Kraken is being released.......

Doc

I call my flatulence, the Kraken.

"Release the Kraken. And abandon hope, all ye who enter here!"

 

[Maggot]

Does this mean the Kraken is being released.......

Doc

Im not sure. Do the pentacles ward off evil spirits?

 

[Maggot]

Here's the "other" problem.
"We gotta get our guy in, so we can fix some stuff!"
Sober up. You are drunk. Its ok, I drank that kool-aid too. Get off the sauce, sober up.

Whether you know it or not, here is a simple fact: They have been tearing down your 2A rights for 89 years. Complete with a "distraction" every single time.
Hell, you weren't even paying attention to it for 50 of those years.
In '68 they distracted you with "colored" issues, while they really tightened the noose.

Glen Beck didn't invent the Overton Window, its always existed.

They have distracted us so long, that we can't even see they completely control the game, and have for quite a while.

We run around, still yammering about "getting our man" in the WH.
So.....you think 4 years can erase the progress of 90 years?
Theyve actually been working on this plan for at least 150 years.
So.....if we can get our man in for 2 full terms, we can turn the wheel? Stem the tide?
"They" have used our system against us.
The flaws were built in on purpose.
Its been a grand ride.
You can't fix it in 8 years, you couldn't fix it in 80.

We will be given a crisis to rally behind, to wave the flag. Its all been a game. The serfs always pay the cost in blood.
The rest of the monkeys will beat you down for "disrespecting the cause".
The cause is rooted and grounded in evil.

Oh yeah, and another thing.
Our country isn't a Christian nation. Its roots aren't Christian. You've been fooled, literally by the oldest lie on the planet.
That 10 commandments on the courthouse?
God didn't put it there. Its a grand trick.

This.

But in the loooong run, they lose.

 

[W54/XM-388]

We will be given a crisis to rally behind, to wave the flag. Its all been a game. The serfs always pay the cost in blood.
The rest of the monkeys will beat you down for "disrespecting the cause".
The cause is rooted and grounded in evil.

Oh yeah, and another thing.
Our country isn't a Christian nation. Its roots aren't Christian. You've been fooled, literally by the oldest lie on the planet.
That 10 commandments on the courthouse?
God didn't put it there. Its a grand trick.

This right here is what's about to happen ^^^
Because it's Always how it happens.

Oh about about the "roots of this country"
Folks may want to go back and dig into history and see exactly what "ceremonies" were conducted when the cornerstones of key buildings in DC were laid, as well as other key old building in other big cities from around that same time. Look around at all the symbols around you, on your money on key government buildings, in national architecture and so on.

The alternative was....unthinkable.
We thought Q was real too....right through the whole "kraacken" bullshit.

Its a fookin mess.

Quite a few folks understood from the get go that "Q" was a massive (and turned out to be spectacularly successful) psyops campaign.
I used to try to explain to this one older, intelligent guy at the LGS who was all into Q that it's all a big trap, but he would never believe me, even when they were swearing in Xiden, he was still convinced Q had promised that if all the "good folks" just stat around on their thumbs and did absolutely nothing, somehow a magical plan would unfold and the omniscient emperor Trump would be riding into power as the ruler of the world forever...

It was actually easy to spot, because it was too well polished.
Tell everyone exactly what they already think to be true, but tell them you have to just sit around and do nothing and take no action and "somebody" will come in and fix everything magically.

And it worked, just as the Global Elites knew it would.
The nature of humans is lazy and selfish and not wanting to sacrifice. Offer someone the easy way out and way too many will happily agree.

 

[JoeZ]

They've actually been working on this plan for at least 150 years.

Longer.

"You will see further that we are completely saddled and bridled, and that the bank is so firmly mounted on us that we must go where they will guide" Thomas Jefferson

 

[338dude]

Spot on.

Elections are theater. There are no good guys. It is simply, NWO vs the people.





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[DarnYankeeUSMC]

For the slow kids in the back, what does all this preparation look like?

B's
Bourbon, Beans, Bullets, Bandaids, Beer and Buy ammo

 

[Maggot]

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[goinghunting]

Say what you want but actions speak louder than words.
Trump was NO friend to the 2A when he was in power.
Trump was not all that interested in constitutional freedoms, including the 2A and due process.
Trump did manage to get one tax cut pushed through and he did manage to get a bunch of not terrible judges into the judiciary.

DeSantis has actually gotten a lot done on what he promised and managed to roll back a lot of the left wing B.S.
He got the job done in the legislature by knowing how to work the levers of power properly.

Trump is pushing 80 he needs to ride off into the sunset and enjoy his mythical status to have a comfortable life being somewhat relevant in politics.
I'm sure he could cut a deal to have folks stop bothering him in exchange for not trying to upset the primary applecart.

Getting shit done as a state governor is definitely on par with getting shit done as president. Just look at the swamp Trump had to deal with from both sides of the aisle

 

[goinghunting]

If he doesn't make it to the final, are you voting Biden again?

I voted for Trump in 16 and 20, and not afraid to say it. Will vote for him again too if he's on the ticket. The least swamp critter we have seen since Reagan.

That being said my votes very likely went to Shillary or Xiden with the rampant and blatantly obvious cheating.

 

[Ronws]

I voted for Trump in 16 and 20, and not afraid to say it. Will vote for him again too if he's on the ticket. The least swamp critter we have seen since Reagan.

That being said my votes very likely went to Shillary or Xiden with the rampant and blatantly obvious cheating.

I tittered with glee when he was at CPAC after the 2020 election and people asked him if he would run again. He said, "Sure, I can run and win a third time."

Then YouTube took that video down.

But I have disagreed with Trump on a few major things and I think he was just trying to placate the statists and it didn't help.

The bump stock ban. That did not assauge anyone and serves no purpose. Someone go ahead and prove me wrong and I will happily admit it. Show me a gun crime before or since Vegas 2017 that involved a bump stock.

Then, he talked about seizing guns from people. Seize first, due process later. Wrong, man. Or, at least, that is what we are told he said.

The media are lust lying liars who lie a lot.

 

[CaptNkllm]

Ok, some reading material for the class.. Once you have read this then jump back in with a thought or two

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He wont win the Primary or the Presidential election

Fox News Having Trouble Finding DeSantis Supporters in Florida for 2024 Presidential Run - The Last Refuge

Fox News has a big sad today. CONTEXT – After months of promoting Ron DeSantis to become the 2024 GOP nominee, which includes the efforts of Rupert Murdoch (and family) via a multimillion-dollar Harper Collins book deal for the Florida governor; lengthy friendly interviews with DeSantis on every...

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I know you cant help who endorses you but follow the money (above^^^^)

Fox News and Jeb Bush Endorse Ron DeSantis 2024 - The Last Refuge

Fox News is running an hour-long campaign infomercial to support Florida Governor Ron DeSantis winning the 2024 GOP primary nomination. Inside the political messaging, Jeb Bush gives his full-throated endorsement. {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH: Based on current available evidence, the announcement...

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Ron DeSantis Wins the Coveted George Soros Endorsement - Describing DeSantis as "Shrewd, Ruthless and Ambitious"... - The Last Refuge

Saying that DeSantis “is shrewd, ruthless, and ambitious”, George Soros delivers an endorsement of the Florida governor adding, “He is likely to be the Republican candidate.” When billionaire leftist and creepy globalist George Soros is complimenting your personality attributes, you just might...

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DeSantis Hosting Donors and Social Media Influencers During 3-Day Palm Beach Event - The Last Refuge

Around July 2022 was when CTH first noticed the visible fingerprints of a coordinated GOPe strategy toward the goal of presenting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis as the acceptable Republican candidate to remove the threat of the America First MAGA movement. At first, I didn’t say anything...

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Turtle head a poppin

DC Report - Team Mitch McConnell Worried DeSantis Might Be Taking Too Long to Enter 2024 Race - FL Legislature Needs to Change Election Laws Quickly - The Last Refuge

At this point it’s a little humorous to read the DC inside Republican narrative as they produce their DeSantis messaging. The Hill has an article {SEE HERE} titled “GOP Impatience Grows for DeSantis to Make Move on Trump.” However, political followers will notice the tell behind the story in...

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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Takes His "Not Campaigning, Campaigning Tour" to New York, Illinois and Beyond to Promote Law Enforcement - The Last Refuge

Keeping up the coy and deliberately managed strategy of not running for 2024 while running for 2024, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will embark on a multi-state promotional effort to showcase his pro law enforcement outlook. DeSantis starts Monday in Staten Island, New York, and the managers are...

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DeSantis Appears in Iowa as Campaign Manager and PACs Begin Positioning for Likely May Announcement - The Last Refuge

The question of Ron DeSantis entering the race for the 2024 GOP nomination is an issue of ‘when’ not ‘if’. Anyone who is still holding the opinion that nothing is certain until everything is certain are simply being obtuse in the extreme. Before getting to the current status of the Florida...

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Enough reading material Me thinks... Great site for really good topics of thinking

Again its all opinion, believe what you want but at least pay attention above the weeds so you are not to lost

 

[mrdrar]

Xi, perhaps. Putin??? Do you think this war in Ukraine is really best for his country?

Ukraine joining NATO (in violation of post-WWII treaties and promises) is an existential threat to Russia.

 

[goinghunting]

I tittered with glee when he was at CPAC after the 2020 election and people asked him if he would run again. He said, "Sure, I can run and win a third time."

Then YouTube took that video down.

But I have disagreed with Trump on a few major things and I think he was just trying to placate the statists and it didn't help.

The bump stock ban. That did not assauge anyone and serves no purpose. Someone go ahead and prove me wrong and I will happily admit it. Show me a gun crime before or since Vegas 2017 that involved a bump stock.

Then, he talked about seizing guns from people. Seize first, due process later. Wrong, man. Or, at least, that is what we are told he said.

The media are lust lying liars who lie a lot.

Yeah the bump stock thing sucked. But I can guarantee anyone else in office would have done that as well as more egregious things. The people that say "oh fuck I cant vote for Trump, because bump stocks" , make me die laughing.

 

[Dunraven]

I’m guessing you guys that are blinded by I don’t even know what at this point, still believe in the toothfairy, easter bunny, and santa clause. The constitution is irrelevant. The gov’t is far from beholden to it. If you believe the constitution is the true law of the land then you must understand there is no rule of law any longer considering it’s been discarded years ago. Playing pretend and voting in fake elections for preselected “candidates” that are beholden to the shadow gov’t that operates outside of the constitution is a fools errand. Playing along only legitimizes the illegitimate. You would be better served speaking understanding this and sharing the truth with people.

In other words: Welcome to the police-state; welcome to over-reaching government tyranny. It's here, and like any other government program or tax, it never goes away. In my lifetime it appears to have been started, or at least advanced, by Obama, with his IRS scandal. Now, all of the federal agencies, run by democrats, seem to be in on it in various nefarious ways.

 

[CaptNkllm]

Not saying the guy is bad, he just isn't what most think he is... At least have eyes wide open going in and its easier to understand the mechanics after.. Big money is behind Desantis.

Follow the money.. If someone bought you a car or a house? Don't think they don't have ulterior motives (Most times). How about a founded Presidential Campaign? Millions if not a Billion Dollars. Don't think its all for fun.

 

[338dude]

I don’t think it’s whether he’s good or bad it’s just he will take votes away from Trump. That’s exactly what the Dems want.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Fuck the rest of ya’ll. Florida is keeping DeSanti as governor.

Removing him from Florida is not a good idea! He needs to finish his term.

Envision this, he runs in 24, loses, then a dem wins in Florida….

Then the right just totally fucked up.

Back to the drawing board dumbasses

Here’s something to eat while you draw

 

[264pr]

Trump made the vax possible, and therefore indirectly caused the mandates.

Isnt that like sayng that gun manufacturers should be held liable for crimes committed with a firearm?

 

[264pr]

Fuck the rest of ya’ll. Florida is keeping DeSanti as governor.

Removing him from Florida is not a good idea! He needs to finish his term.

Envision this, he runs in 24, loses, then a dem wins in Florida….

Then the right just totally fucked up.

Back to the drawing board dumbasses

Here’s something to eat while you drawView attachment 8095415

DeSantis cant run for goverrnor of florida again due to term limits.

This is his second term and is done in 2024

 

[MJF]

You guys realize that neither Trump nor Desantis will win, right? The chosen democrat will be installed as President. Wake up.

 

[338dude]

You guys realize that neither Trump nor Desantis will win, right? The chosen democrat will be installed as President. Wake up.

Sad but I believe it, and when this happens, it may be the straw that broke the camels back!

 

[264pr]

You guys realize that neither Trump nor Desantis will win, right? The chosen democrat will be installed as President. Wake up.

Only way neither wins is if people dont get involved in local election controls

if y'all are sitting on your asses complaining instead of spending the next couple years getting involved then yea.....dems are gonna cheat

 

[atomic41]

You guys realize that neither Trump nor Desantis will win, right? The chosen democrat will be installed as President. Wake up.

Many of you still don't get it. There is no 2-party power system. There is simply the NWO and the masses. Elections are theater that the NWO needs you to keep believing in. So sometimes in some places, including the POTUS...they put in a "republican". This keeps you all that still believe in the voting process from waking up.

If the NWO is not ready to flip the great reset switch and they need a little more time, they just might put a "republican" in the WH and the masses will clap like trained seals and go back to watching their sporting events like good little servants.

There are no good guys. Republicans vs Democrats is all a show. No one is coming to save you. We are not voting our way out of this.

 

[MJF]

Exactly. As long as the sheep still believe their guy can win, the NWO will win. Wake up.