The caving has begun, our new gun control bill

[Desert_Racer]

The government doesn’t actually give a shit about public safety or stopping mass shootings. The proof is in the pudding, in every single leftist-run city. Everyone here knows that.

There’s a reason you can be an 18 year old kid and go overseas to mow down hajis with a saw, but can’t come home and buy a fucking handgun. The government wants to own the monopoly on violence, in it’s entirety. And our 2A rights are the final piece of the puzzle.

Genocide almost always follows disarmament of a population.

 

[Maggot]

The problem with the security at schools is, it’s usually the shittiest cop on the force, when shit like this happens, they run and hide, that has been proven time and time again. We need to use teachers, parents, give these combat vets a job, whoever is guarding our kids need to be emotionally invested in these kids, not just worried about their dental plan, and before all the Leo and bootlickers start bitching about all the “good” cops, fuck off. I’ll put my money on a pissed off mom with a flip flop taking a school shooter out before I would some Leo tactitard with an M4 slung over a set of plates! Y’all act like you got to wait for the government to tell you how to protect our kids, they don’t own you or your kids. Public schools are still ran by private citizens, we need to get together as parents, put a plan in place and execute said plan, and if your school don’t go along, take your damn kids out of that school because they don’t give fuck about your kids.

THats a beginning but these shootings are happening at places besides schools.

 

[Maggot]

Without Christ, there is no solution. The only reason The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution worked is because we had a Christian based society. We've turned our back on God, so now the we have liberty, without a moral compass and this is our downfall. Without the Christian conscience, liberty is used for evil. The rest of the world refused to accept this and now they have no liberty. The USA is hard-headed and wants to go the same route. Without Christ, there will be no Liberty. Where man looks to himself for solutions, there is bondage and tyranny. No amount of legislation, or mental health system overhaul, will fix what ails us. Any solution, without Christ will fail. Religion is not the solution. Religion has proven itself evil, throughout history. Faith in Christ is the only solution. He has never failed.

Ive said the same repeatedly.

doesnt matter what we do, as long as the human heart is corrupted, hell will continue to decend on us. There is only one correction that will work and that timing is out of our hands. to think otherwise is ignorant. The best we can do is to maintain our own righteousness until that time.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Without Christ, there is no solution. The only reason The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution worked is because we had a Christian based society. We've turned our back on God, so now the we have liberty, without a moral compass and this is our downfall. Without the Christian conscience, liberty is used for evil. The rest of the world refused to accept this and now they have no liberty. The USA is hard-headed and wants to go the same route. Without Christ, there will be no Liberty. Where man looks to himself for solutions, there is bondage and tyranny. No amount of legislation, or mental health system overhaul, will fix what ails us. Any solution, without Christ will fail. Religion is not the solution. Religion has proven itself evil, throughout history. Faith in Christ is the only solution. He has never failed.

Could not have said it better myself.

 

[JbBooks]

THats a beginning but these shootings are happening at places besides schools.

You’re right, they are, but I don’t give a fuck about them places, those places are full of adults that left the house and made a conscious decision to not protect themselves, they have the ability to protect themselves, they just choose not to, our children do not have that ability, so therefore we must choose for them.
There is evil, and there always will be, and when people use the excuse well “laws and things”, there’s not a law ever been written that keeps good men from protecting them and theirs.

 

[Jgault]

The problem with the security at schools is, it’s usually the shittiest cop on the force, when shit like this happens, they run and hide, that has been proven time and time again. We need to use teachers, parents, give these combat vets a job, whoever is guarding our kids need to be emotionally invested in these kids, not just worried about their dental plan, and before all the Leo and bootlickers start bitching about all the “good” cops, fuck off. I’ll put my money on a pissed off mom with a flip flop taking a school shooter out before I would some Leo tactitard with an M4 slung over a set of plates! Y’all act like you got to wait for the government to tell you how to protect our kids, they don’t own you or your kids. Public schools are still ran by private citizens, we need to get together as parents, put a plan in place and execute said plan, and if your school don’t go along, take your damn kids out of that school because they don’t give fuck about your kids.

We’ve been trying to get schools here to allow a armed patrol of parents and volunteers, it wouldn’t be hard at all. We would easily have enough volunteers for 4 hour shifts a few days a week that would have every entrance covered and have a armed adult within 50 yards of almost every point in the building. We would be more than willing to take any course they asked, and we would be free. The sad fact is schools are more comfortable with the thought of a mass shooter in a unarmed school than law abiding citizens with firearms. It doesn’t matter that statically a licensed concealed license holder is half likely to commit a crime than even a police officer, and that allot of us are as proficient if not more proficient with firearms as allot of those who uses a firearm employed by the government. The government is in the business of creating sheep not shepherds.

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

You'll never know what's in the bill until your dog gets shot.

The concept of red flag laws aren't to take guns away from dangerous people. They are to take guns away from people that keep the government at bay.

Thank you uni-party.

Those ARE the people posing a danger to the 100 old fucks who make up the rules and have a LOT more than guns protecting them.

 

[JbBooks]

We’ve been trying to get schools here to allow a armed patrol of parents and volunteers, it wouldn’t be hard at all. We would easily have enough volunteers for 4 hour shifts a few days a week that would have every entrance covered and have a armed adult within 50 yards of almost every point in the building. We would be more than willing to take any course they asked, and we would be free. The sad fact is schools are more comfortable with the thought of a mass shooter in a unarmed school than law abiding citizens with firearms. It doesn’t matter that statically a licensed concealed license holder is half likely to commit a crime than even a police officer, and that allot of us are as proficient if not more proficient with firearms as anyone who uses a firearm employed by the government. The government is in the business of creating sheep not shepherds.

That’s where as parents we have to stand up for our kids, take them out of that school, without the kids they don’t receive any funding, and I’m not a proponent of home schooling, personally I think it makes kids a little anti social and weird, but I’d rather have a weird kid than a dead kid.

 

[912173]

Strange how shooting sprees are increasing right along with the rate of depression, suicide, behavioral medication and overall drug use on top of a general feeling of hopelessness in our youth. Probably not related though, must be the guns we've always had. Physically and mentally ill people are a cash cow for so many industries, not to mention the benefit to politicians.

 

[TriggerJerk!]

Ok @Maggot I’ll play.

One armed police officer per school. That is all we need.

Now answer a question or two for me...

1. What does legislation do, and why does everone think legislation will help? We already have numerous laws, and this individual broke many. Just like those before him.

2. Why is “gun control” always the only solution? Crap I parked at school every day with a rifle and shotgun hanging in my truck. No problems, ever. And I was but one of many. The point is that gun control does not inhibit crime, but it absolutely eliminates freedom. Even a luddite’s cursory reading of history demonstrates this fact. And it is my ‘second’ inalienable right that everyone wants to “modify” with “sensible firearm laws”. Bullshit! Laws don’t stop crimes, they merely codify the crime and dictate the legal grounds for retribution in the name of “the people”.

3. Finally, at what point do we, as citizens of what remains of this besieged republic, refuse to allow further elimination of our rights? Particularly when the loss is justified to enhance “safety”? (It dies not prevent crime, see above). All of the previous gun control laws have done nothing to prevent crime, but they have disarmed our citizens.

The continued push towards socialist tyranny is almost complete. Look at what occurred in this country since 2016 in particular. The Great Reset is well underway, and they can not complete the reset if a large portion of this country remains armed (With ammo!!). Wake up folks, the crap we are now in is not due to progressive incompetence. It IS the plan. Don’t believe me? Let’s talk again after the next 2 elections.

So in summary, an armed police officer is the only sensible governmental action at this time. Additional gun laws will not help our citizens or children, nor make any of us “safer”.

Rant complete.

 

[fx77]

Podcast by Libertarian Richard A Epstein--Brilliant Attorney and Propfessor of Law
Don't expect you to listen ( excellent as it is,) but the jist is:
No matter how strictly and perfectly any Gun/RedFlag Law is written U can never count on the politicians to abuse it against their political enemy.

 

[FatBoy]

Podcast by Libertarian Richard A Epstein--Brilliant Attorney and Propfessor of Law
Don't expect you to listen ( excellent as it is,) but the jist is:
No matter how strictly and perfectly any Gun/RedFlag Law is written U can never count on the politicians to abuse it against their political enemy.

Pretty good listen. What happened to classic liberals? People you could maybe disagree with and have a conversation, not get yelled at, called a baby killer (ironically) and have you car vandalized.


I don’t agree with the interviewers first premise of mass shooting being a mainly US problem. I wish that would have been addressed.

I do agree with Epstein on some points and would question others but in the last moments of the interview when he brought up strengthening the family units, he rings genuine to me as I agree with that point, regardless of where I stand on any others.

 

[ubet]

So to somewhat play the Devil's advocate....

Something has to be done, what do ya'll suggest?

-More mental health help?
Are you really willing to pay for it or would you piss ads whine about your tax dollars going to the 'Fucktards and losers"?

-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those.

-Guards at the schools. THat would have to include hardening and reinforcing other aspects and turning the school itself into something of a prison like scenario.

Again, just playing the Devil's Advocate, but if we dont institute some 'POSITIVE' changes you can 100% count on negative ones.

So lets hear it ya'll 100 pointers.

Let’s start with .gov not grooming these kids via federal agents in chat rooms. This kid said 4 years agob he was going to spot up a school when he turned 18 and was a senior. And how does an 18yr old unemployed tranny afford $5000 on rifles, plus optics, ammo and body armor?

I suggest we stop these false flag events.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

False premise.
"Something has to be done"
No new laws would have stopped what happened.

So to somewhat play the Devil's advocate....

Something has to be done, what do ya'll suggest?

-More mental health help?
Are you really willing to pay for it or would you piss ads whine about your tax dollars going to the 'Fucktards and losers"?

-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those.

-Guards at the schools. THat would have to include hardening and reinforcing other aspects and turning the school itself into something of a prison like scenario.

Again, just playing the Devil's Advocate, but if we dont institute some 'POSITIVE' changes you can 100% count on negative ones.

So lets hear it ya'll 100 pointers.

What needs to be done is old laws/ illegal ATF bullshit needs to be done away with. People need to take their safety personally. Obviously the king's men can't do it.

 

[salks]

Schools have to have security with an armed presence. The TSA was created in direct response to 9/11. Why not have a SSA. How to secure a particular school should be left to professionals. It can be done without making it look or seem like a prison. Really the only thing standing in the way is money. They can pass whatever gun law they want, but they are truly naive if they think it won't happen again.

 

[UKDslayer]

enough is enough. we don't blame Toyota when a car rams through a crowd to kill people

Unless the driver is a black racist out on bail killing a bunch of white people at a Christmas parade. Then its the car.

 

[AngryKoala]

From the article it looks like enough republicans have agreed to:

Raising age to purchase a firearm to 21
and red flag laws are pretty much in, guessing they will get “ghost gun” language, and their atf nominee as well(the last two aren’t in the article but once the caving starts Democrats will probably get it)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-rep-kinzinger-brainer-raise-minimum-age-buy-firearm

It’s a foolish man who builds his house on the sand, if that’s true republicans are just a giant beach.

Laws only restrict the rights of those who follow them, which are good citizens. Criminals do not care how many laws you pass. This is why I say Republican and Democrat matter not, they are all scum.

 

[n2ishun]

Let’s start with .gov not grooming these kids via federal agents in chat rooms. This kid said 4 years agob he was going to spot up a school when he turned 18 and was a senior. And how does an 18yr old unemployed tranny afford $5000 on rifles, plus optics, ammo and body armor?

I suggest we stop these false flag events.

And....
Learn how to shoot something well that he's only had a few days.

.gov training ?

 

[BCP]

And....
Learn how to shoot something well that he's only had a few days.

.gov training ?

I don't see any government training required to do what he did lol. Of course if he had surrounded the building with tanks and then accidentally set it on fire that would be FBI all the way.

 

[UKDslayer]

The problem with Red Flag Laws is that they control the definitions. Look what they have done to the terms "racist", "domestic terrorist", "white supremacist". They are going to change the definition of mentally ill to include those that don't agree with their narrative. Don't want a third or fourth booster? You must be crazy! Or the WHO will decide guns are unhealthy. Wait for it.

One age for all adult "privileges". You can vote, die for your country with a firearm in your hand, you should be able to defend it here with a firearm. They want to raise the age to buy guns, then raise the age to serve in the military, and the age to VOTE.

 

[Maggot]

False premise.
"Something has to be done"
No new laws would have stopped what happened.

What needs to be done is old laws/ illegal ATF bullshit needs to be done away with. People need to take their safety personally. Obviously the king's men can't do it.

Then after that we could say "Something has been done." And my premise would be correct.

 

[wade2big]

Schools have to have security with an armed presence. The TSA was created in direct response to 9/11. Why not have a SSA. How to secure a particular school should be left to professionals. It can be done without making it look or seem like a prison. Really the only thing standing in the way is money. They can pass whatever gun law they want, but they are truly naive if they think it won't happen again.

Thats not why the TSA was created and we damn sure don’t need another agency.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Israel is surrounded by and live with terrorists threats more than anyone. They do not have this problem. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. It's already been done and proved that it works.

 

[UKDslayer]

Schools have to have security with an armed presence.

Uvalde had an SRO. A paid, "professional", SRO. Who, like most government employees these days, was not at his job performing his duties. They had a locked entrance system too. How about blaring alarms when a door is "propped" open for more than ten or fifteen seconds? Despite all the millions of COVID $$$ that was supposed to go to new school HVAC systems, we know that money went elsewhere. Some schools get hot, there are still teachers popping doors open for circulation.

 

[RUTGERS95]

let teachers be armed if they want to. Hell, let the parents go in and engage the kid if police won't.

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Laws only restrict the rights of those who follow them, which are good citizens. Criminals do not care how many laws you pass. This is why I say Republican and Democrat matter not, they are all scum.

The more crazy and tyrannical our laws and government get, the truer that statement becomes. The only difference is which base each side plays up to.

 

[Smitty192]

The problem with Red Flag Laws is that they control the definitions. Look what they have done to the terms "racist", "domestic terrorist", "white supremacist". They are going to change the definition of mentally ill to include those that don't agree with their narrative. Don't want a third or fourth booster? You just be crazy! Or the WHO will decides guns are unhealthy. Wait for it.

One age for all adult "privileges". You can vote, die for your country with a firearm in your hand, you should be able to defend it here with a firearm. They want to raise the age to buy guns, then raise the age to serve in the military, and the age to VOTE.

This is exactly what is wanted. It's going to start with raising the age to buy a rifle to 21. That's going to be the very public drum beat. The quiet part is the red flag law. Practicing disinformation? White male that has pro Trump memes on your FB account? NRA member? Veteran? Anonymous Karen will call the hotline and you will get your guns taken away from you...and your dog will probably get shot too.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

No more compromise. It's time to take back and not give in.
Ask your congresswoman if they know why Israel doesn't have a problem? Why don't we do what they do?

 

[BAMAboy18]

So to somewhat play the Devil's advocate....

Something has to be done, what do ya'll suggest?

-More mental health help?
Are you really willing to pay for it or would you piss ads whine about your tax dollars going to the 'Fucktards and losers"?

-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those.

-Guards at the schools. THat would have to include hardening and reinforcing other aspects and turning the school itself into something of a prison like scenario.

Again, just playing the Devil's Advocate, but if we dont institute some 'POSITIVE' changes you can 100% count on negative ones.

So lets hear it ya'll 100 pointers.

I did a stint in S. FL after hurricane Andrew. The state was using lotto money to rebuild every school. My son was in mobile classrooms, that got moved from one to the next as rebuilding progressed. If you step back and look close, the only real difference in the new schools and a prison was the fence around it. The schools even had deputies present at all times. Kids weren't even required to bring pensils, everything was provided. Back home in AL each kid brings home a shopping list of supplies at the beginning of each year.
So I know the Parkland shooting happened after this. One can't disregard the plausibility of false flags, used to further agendas. COVID didn't do what is was supposed to, now we have monkey pox, WTF???
Watch this and see if it doesn't make you think & connect some dots...

Planet Lockdown Documentary Film – Having the courage to face our fear

planetlockdownfilm.com

 

[greentick]

You can't legislate morality.

 

[wade2big]

You can't legislate morality.

No, but you can legislate it away.

 

[Ericsl2]

The irony is that JB, on Memorial Day, a day in which you’re supposed to recognize and honor those who gave up their lives defending the constitution, said screw the second amendment and everything it stands for. What an unbelievable thing to do. Couldn’t have even waited another day at least. He might as well have gone to Arlington National cemetery and pissed on a grave.

 

[orkan]

hell will continue to decend on us.

Matthew 24:14
14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations[a] will hear it; and then the end will come.

^ That... is the internet. At least in part. It's happened.

1 Thessalonians 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

2 Timothy 3:1-5
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

Both of those are happening every day. It is written that it will get worse every day until the last. There will be fewer and fewer righteous and more and more heathens... until finally, every knee will bend. We should not despair at the garbage we're witnessing. Instead, be joyful at prophecy being fulfilled, and one day closer to His return.

These days I attempt to get people to turn to truth once. If I feel the pull of the Spirit I will attempt it once more. Once the Spirit relieves me, I ignore them as entirely as if they were dead and had never lived. More people are falling into that category every day, and the frequency increasing. I am not fighting it, or even sad about it. I trust Him with no reservation. I simply hold no faith in this world any longer. I only hold faith for Him.

It must get worse, as it was written it will... and so I watch with anticipation, keeping my behavior as close to truth as I find possible. I can't do it, but all is possible through Him.

Thanks for allowing me to make the only post I've felt compelled to make on this website in quite a while... and it will likely be quite a while until the next.

 

[Romeo458]

Doesn't matter what we want or what would actually solve the problem, the goal is disarmament and our silence is allowing them to achieve that goal.

 

[Darayavaus]

 

[UKDslayer]

Matthew 24:14
14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations[a] will hear it; and then the end will come.

^ That... is the internet. At least in part. It's happened.

And the two witnesses will be viewed by everyone in the world too - that's internet.

 

[ggmanning]

Yet 18 is old enough to vote.........

And die for your country. I give the same argument for drinking age, smoking,etc. If you are old enough to vote you are old enough for everything.

On the other hand if they link not gaining any of these "priveleges" to still being on mommas insurance until 26 I'd be on board with that.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

That is the REAL goal of the disarmament crowd. Once they use the knee jerk reactions to "gun violence" to disarm most of the population, the real pogroms, genocides, cattle cars, mass starvation, will ensue. We seen it at Seattle CHOP in 2020. Second week of ANTIFA takeover, armed commie "security" thugs were trying to blockade residents from leaving their apartments and questioning pedestrians about their past voting habits.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Ok so the question is, what are we going to do about it? Better start making plans now. Call you people’s, throw stats in their faces, whatever you have to do to say you tried.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Ok so the question is, what are we going to do about it? Better start making plans now. Call you people’s, throw stats in their faces, whatever you have to do to say you tried.

Step 1: Compile footage and news coverage of all of the commie thuggery at Seattle CHOP in 2020, as well as the China lockdowns. This is what happens when guns are taken away.

Step 2: Ask all gun owners if they are WORTH owning the firearms which are the result of over 1000 years of humanity's yearning for freedom from oppression and to keep danger at bay. Firearms that millions of people have DIED to secure to fight off oppressors from the medieval to the modern world. Now you have a rifle and pistol on your table. Are you WORTH owning these implements which are the symbols of humanity's struggle to be one step ahead of those with evil intent?

 

[n0glock]

Uvalde it appears now they could have started by locking the door, and following the safety plan you know they had but didn’t follow, then LE follow the protocol that has been in place for 10 plus years first officer to arrive goes in, There is a small district in Eastern Oregon that put gun lockers in all classrooms then took teachers who volunteered and trained them in how to use CZ Scorpions with a rmr and a buttstock, only the trained teachers know which rooms have weapons, not that expensive. Our local Jr High had a bunch of money spent to harden it up and you can go by any day and the front door is propped open. ( Different district than the one mentioned above)

 

[The King]

We’ve been trying to get schools here to allow a armed patrol of parents and volunteers, it wouldn’t be hard at all. We would easily have enough volunteers for 4 hour shifts a few days a week that would have every entrance covered and have a armed adult within 50 yards of almost every point in the building. We would be more than willing to take any course they asked, and we would be free. The sad fact is schools are more comfortable with the thought of a mass shooter in a unarmed school than law abiding citizens with firearms. It doesn’t matter that statically a licensed concealed license holder is half likely to commit a crime than even a police officer, and that allot of us are as proficient if not more proficient with firearms as allot of those who uses a firearm employed by the government. The government is in the business of creating sheep not shepherds.

Frankly this is because school shootings are statistically meaningless.

The right answer is nothing.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Anyone remember when the Obama administration was selling guns to the Sinaloa cartel? How about when they armed ISIS through Libya? How about when the Biden administration turned the taliban into a large standing army with first world arms and equipment? Pepperidge Farms remembers…

But none of you should be allowed to own a firearm. That’s our government, folks.

 

[Namekagon]

Is the loss of the lives of those children who died in that school so great as to warrant giving away a freedom that a million have died to defend? Just consider how many soldiers have died in the pursuit and preservation of American freedom. We aren't talking about some fringe privilege here, this is Amendment #2 to the document that says we exist. Therefore, its no exaggeration to say that hundreds of thousands of soldiers have died for the Bill of Rights, yet people want to throw some of those rights away because 19 kids were murdered? A tragedy for sure, make no mistake. But a little context is in order here.

 

[Oryx]

So to somewhat play the Devil's advocate....

Something has to be done, what do ya'll suggest?

-More mental health help?
Are you really willing to pay for it or would you piss ads whine about your tax dollars going to the 'Fucktards and losers"?

-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those.

-Guards at the schools. THat would have to include hardening and reinforcing other aspects and turning the school itself into something of a prison like scenario.

Again, just playing the Devil's Advocate, but if we dont institute some 'POSITIVE' changes you can 100% count on negative ones.

So lets hear it ya'll 100 pointers.

Something has to be done .... about the root cause... We could spend millions of pages describing the problems and solutions... it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to jump to the conclusions of figuring out/approving the number of millions or billions of dollars to throw at it and then decide how to spend it.... let alone infringing the rights provided by our constitution

"-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those" you don't just slip right past them if you're enforcing them and paying attention to the root causes.

Definitely don't need to harden schools turning them into prison's.

You need to institute positive changes to the actual problem ... not the scapegoat or political platform

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

Something has to be done .... about the root cause... We could spend millions of pages describing the problems and solutions... it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to jump to the conclusions of figuring out/approving the number of millions or billions of dollars to throw at it and then decide how to spend it.... let alone infringing the rights provided by our constitution

"-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those" you don't just slip right past them if you're enforcing them and paying attention to the root causes.

Definitely don't need to harden schools turning them into prison's.

You need to institute positive changes to the actual problem ... not the scapegoat or political platform

While it's of course true that addressing the root causes is what needs to happen, it's also true that addressing those things is a much more difficult thing to get implemented, and it will take longer.

For the many who don't believe the breakdown of the family, ect is the root causes, they want some kind of action now. I admit, I also would like something we can do to make our kids safe in school, while we address those root causes. There is plenty we can do now that will help keep our kids safe, while we address the larger problem in our society, and it doesn't involve taking pieces of our critically important 2nd amendment.

If that school had simply followed known and simple safety procedures, the story would be much different. It seems to me we lose nothing, and gain some safety for our children if we pass some national standard for schools that they must abide by to keep kids safe, since we can't rely on teachers to not prop open freaking doors, or admins to get the damn air working properly. We clearly can't rely on police to do anything when they get there or if they are there, so making the school safe and giving the school a way to stop an intruder seems to be a good step, while we address the reason we are breeding these demon kids.

As much as I pray every night for, and hope to see our nation turn back to God, and reaffirm the nuclear family as the cornerstone of society, we all know that is not going to happen, so I'd like to keep our kids safe, while I raise mine to be not of this world and be about what God is about for them.

 

[Smitty192]

The shooting and the gun control legislation they want to implement have nothing to do with each other. This is an opportune time to disarm the unwashed masses.

 

[UKDslayer]

The irony - the Robb/Uvalde shooter was finally stopped by a PRIVATELY-OWNED GUN, not a government gun; in use by someone who was technically a civilian (since he was off the clock getting his haircut) and just happened to work for BP.

 

[Maggot]

Something has to be done .... about the root cause... We could spend millions of pages describing the problems and solutions... it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to jump to the conclusions of figuring out/approving the number of millions or billions of dollars to throw at it and then decide how to spend it.... let alone infringing the rights provided by our constitution

"-Enforce the saws on the books? This kid slipped right past those" you don't just slip right past them if you're enforcing them and paying attention to the root causes.

Definitely don't need to harden schools turning them into prison's.

You need to institute positive changes to the actual problem ... not the scapegoat or political platform

Im still not hearing any real solutions, jsut a lot of "ought to" and should". Thats not a criticism aimed at you or anyone. I dont have that answer either, other than to agree with the above, that, thre is no true solution outside of the return of Christ.

In the interim, perhaps stop giving away billions and billions to other countries and start using it here to help those in need before they pop. And increase the standards and accountability for LE.

 

[Smitty192]

Im still not hearing any real solutions, jsut a lot of "ought to" and should". Thats not a criticism aimed at you or anyone. I dont have that answer either, other than to agree with the above, that, thre is no true solution outside of the return of Christ.

In the interim, perhaps stop giving away billions and billions to other countries and start using it here to help those in need before they pop. And increase the standards and accountability for LE.

The solution is not additional regulation or legislation, or adding anything. The solution is removing the heavy hand of government from EVERYTHING. A good start would be abolishing the Dept. of Education. Citizens have lost control of their environment - starting at the local school boards and municipal governing body. It gets worse as you go up the chain.