I think scotch egg does. May try to check his posts
i am leaning towards a vortex gen 3 on my 16in 308...prolly shoot that for a while then turn down my 22in Creed into a 16-18 inch
sorry gents. I’m running a March 3-24X52
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I think scotch egg does. May try to check his posts
i am leaning towards a vortex gen 3 on my 16in 308...prolly shoot that for a while then turn down my 22in Creed into a 16-18 inch
Newer models don't have issues. If you do just document it well and be a complete ass when requesting an RMA and they will take care of it.What's the consensus on these rifles and feed issues? Do the 308s have any issues? I'd like to pick one up in 260 as a nice change of pace but I'm a little leery of it based on this thread.
Newer models don't have issues. If you do just document it well and be a complete ass when requesting an RMA and they will take care of it.
My 6.5CM works fine with the PMAG that came with it. The only feeding issues i have are when i am really slow and deliberate. Is that the same feeding issue others are having or is it a worse issue no matter how you run the bolt?
That's the issue. If you slam the bolt forward, it will feed but likely will damage the bullet tip. If you feed slowly and watch carefully, the tip of the bullet hits the perpendicular face of the barrel just below the chamfer that helps the bullet tip slide into the chamber.
I believe the challenge is that they designed this rifle around 308 bullets. The added diameter of the 308 vs. 6.5 places the tip of the bullet higher up as it rides up the feed ramp on the barrel extension and therefore makes it into the chamber easier.
I don't find that i necessarily have to SLAM the bolt, but i know for certain i can't slow feed. Hm...it isn't a HUGE deal to me so i am curious if it is worth the hassle of contacting them. It is a range gun for fun.
Yeah my RMA was painless as well, absolutely 0 complaints. Just a reminder to some people who freakout and are a-holes to customer service people when they need repairs.The RMA process was surprisingly not painful. Mine is on its way back from being replaced and will arrive tomorrow. Now I just have to go through the obnoxious California paperwork and 10 day wait to do the transfer since it's a new SN
What's the consensus on these rifles and feed issues? Do the 308s have any issues? I'd like to pick one up in 260 as a nice change of pace but I'm a little leery of it based on this thread.
That's the issue. If you slam the bolt forward, it will feed but likely will damage the bullet tip. If you feed slowly and watch carefully, the tip of the bullet hits the perpendicular face of the barrel just below the chamfer that helps the bullet tip slide into the chamber.
I believe the challenge is that they designed this rifle around 308 bullets. The added diameter of the 308 vs. 6.5 places the tip of the bullet higher up as it rides up the feed ramp on the barrel extension and therefore makes it into the chamber easier.
What is the mount used for your NF?This makes me giggle, so I thought I’d post it. View attachment 7128643View attachment 7128644
It’s a spuhr. I wouldn’t recommend it for the fix, it just makes no sense.What is the mount used for your NF?
@lvmike any updates on the bolt knob project?
I had one on mine but don't have any pictures. Imo it looked a little odd with the 16" barrel but fine with the 22". I switched to a 5-25 vuduAnyone have a picture of a FIX with a AMG on it?
I’m thinking about moving my MK5 to another rifle and going with a AMG on the FIX if it doesn’t dwarf the rifle.
It's not a huge deal, but we've had bolt action tech since the late 1800's and new designs should be evolutionary improvements not regressions.
Well.... I picked up my rifle today after a 14 day wait to allow the wonderful state of CA to make sure I'm worthy of a firearm. After re-assembling everything, I tried out my brand new receiver by loading a few rounds into a magazine and running the bolt.
Same fucking problem. Bullet tips still strike the barrel before feeding into the chamber. What a waste of time. I give up..... I'm not going to waste any more effort on this. I guess I just have to accept that I'm stuck with a $3K lemon and learn to love the taste of lemonade.
I've attached a picture of the bullet tip hitting the junction between the barrel perpendicular and chamber chamfer.
Well.... I picked up my rifle today after a 14 day wait to allow the wonderful state of CA to make sure I'm worthy of a firearm. After re-assembling everything, I tried out my brand new receiver by loading a few rounds into a magazine and running the bolt.
Same fucking problem. Bullet tips still strike the barrel before feeding into the chamber. What a waste of time. I give up..... I'm not going to waste any more effort on this. I guess I just have to accept that I'm stuck with a $3K lemon and learn to love the taste of lemonade.
I've attached a picture of the bullet tip hitting the junction between the barrel perpendicular and chamber chamfer.
Kevin Brittingham: I’m the most innovative firearms designer on the planet!
SIG: Hey, that's our V1.0 prototype from when you used to work here...LOL
Me: SR-25 mags? WTF?
Snipers Hide: Velcro!
Zermatt Arms: Hold our beer
I haven’t followed your initial issues. Is your barrel an early Tooley Bartlein? 6.5 or .308?
It's a Proof barrel but this is not a barrel problem. It's the combination of barrel extension, magazine, and receiver geometry. A 308 feeds fine because the thicker round has the center point of the bullet riding higher when gliding up the feed ramp. 6.5mm rides lower (mine is 6.5). I can only assume that the problem is worse on a 6mm.
Totally agree with the other post that using AICS mags would have solved this.
This is my 6.5CM Proof. The chamfer is far larger than yours. My rifle feeds perfectly. Proof is currently on the rifle.
my .308 Tooley feeds as does my 6.5 Tooley.
The .308 is on the left.
Send it back to Proof....dont take a dremel to it
What does the front say? Tapered muzzle?
they most likely did
Super interesting to see the inconsistency. Yup - a larger chamfer would definitely solve this problem. I was thinking about using a dremel to increase the chamfer at the spot where the bullet tip impacts. I think I'll do this. Your picture makes me believe that an increase in the chamfer won't reduce chamber support of the round in any material manner. Thanks for sharing.
Like this? 16” proof barrel in 6.5, trash panda on the end. Turned in my jumbo shrimp paperwork last week.Anyone have a picture of a FIX with a AMG on it?
I’m thinking about moving my MK5 to another rifle and going with a AMG on the FIX if it doesn’t dwarf the rifle.
It's a Proof barrel but this is not a barrel problem. It's the combination of barrel extension, magazine, and receiver geometry. A 308 feeds fine because the thicker round has the center point of the bullet riding higher when gliding up the feed ramp. 6.5mm rides lower (mine is 6.5). I can only assume that the problem is worse on a 6mm.
Totally agree with the other post that using AICS mags would have solved this.
All the barrels I did from day one had a chamfer and the end gap on the bolt was the same.Id argue the barrels put out in the beginning had more Issues than later barrels.
After looking at as many as I have—the distance from lug to barrel face seems to be larger in early barrels.
Early barrels also have no chamfer
Your 22 creed may not have a chamfer. I don't recall ever chambering one.Interesting theory as my tooley 22in creed has no chamfer
Tooley.All the barrels I did from day one had a chamfer and the end gap on the bolt was the same.
Tooley.
I gain nothing by arguing with you. I was warned not to trust your work and that you would f up whatever I sent your way. You then failed to produce what I specifically hired you to do. So you discounted your fees and I off loaded them upon arrival. Would I use you again for work? Would I recommend your services to others? I don't know anything about your interactions with KB or Q. But I am familiar with your work firsthand with barrels you made for the Fix. In my own Bart/Tooley 6.5 barrel experience---2 caused incipient case head marks with factory Hornady ammo ruining the brass for reloading. The later Q 6.5 barrels do not--or I have not seen or heard of one that does. My FACTORY Proof 6.5 Fix barrel does not. My hypothesis is the gap from bolt face to barrel was larger on those problem barrels. Thus leaving the case unsupported in the rear of the case. Maybe I'm wrong. It's such an easy thing to check. But this idea that your work is flawless is not a narrative that we will continue pretending as it does everyone in this thread a disservice.
Many guys on here own more than one barrel. I'd guess many also have micrometers.
I posted this as something worth everyone going and checking in their own armory. Not to dog you. Tooley. I haven't posted anything about you and my experience having you spin Fix barrels for me. Frankly put--you are unimportant and another name on vendors I will avoid for services going forward.
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All the barrels I did from day one had a chamfer and the end gap on the bolt was the same.