The Fix from Q
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The trigger is unlike all others in that it simply presses into the sear that is enclosed in the bolt. You can't lighten or change trigger characteristics in the second stage unless you tweak and polish the sear assembly inside the bolt.
was there ever a published cause for heavy bolt lift? i’ve had my fix almost 2 years now and never had a problem. the last few pig eradication’s i’ve had heavy lift on a few rounds.
heavy lift is erratic and unpredictable, gun is clean so no issues there and i can’t replicate it, just randomly every so often. Whether shooting subs or supers it happens randomly. .308 20” and 16” tooley barrels, heavy lift on both randomly so i don’t think it’s a barrel issue.
i’ve contacted q, they wouldn’t tell me why it happens. Just curious to the thoughts here.
heavy lift is erratic and unpredictable, gun is clean so no issues there and i can’t replicate it, just randomly every so often. Whether shooting subs or supers it happens randomly. .308 20” and 16” tooley barrels, heavy lift on both randomly so i don’t think it’s a barrel issue.
i’ve contacted q, they wouldn’t tell me why it happens. Just curious to the thoughts here.
not seeing any pressure signs on there cases. box ammo on the supersonic stuff, mostly Federal GMM and hornady precision hunter. i can’t imagine i’d see pressure issues with subsonic rounds either, but i’m not a reloading or ammo expert so it’s possible i guess.
the heavy lift isn’t bad, just noticeable every not and then.
I never noticed it either - but Q will prob want it back to apply whatever their 'fix' is to it - I emailed them about a different question and they sent me a label a while back.
Well, I contacted Proof and went back and forth with them showing pictures and videos. Bottom line is that:
"Alright so our engineers here spoke to their engineers, and what they had said is that rifle is optimized around a 308WIN cartridge, so there are a few things that you can do that should help with the feeding issues of the rifle!
What they had said is that their rifle tends to like the lighter 6.5CM rounds over the heavier. Also, if you are handloading they had recommended to load them on the shorter side for better feeding.
Finally, they had said if you run the bolt a little on the fast side it should help with the feeding as well.
I hope that is able to help!"
So the bottom line is that "optimized around a 308WIN cartridge" basically means it's an un-correctable design flaw. I might yet take my Dremel to it with a felt polishing cone and polishing rouge to remove just a tiny amount of material and slick up the chamfer.
That's pretty much what I figured out with my 6CM barrel, the extension and bolt are not meant the long skinny bullets in a short case. My 105gr Berger's get mangled if you run it fast and wont feed if run slow but the 108gr Hornady's with the plastic tip work fine(ish) because the tip is flexible; so maybe the plastic tipped 6.5 bullets will act the same way. This leaves me with pretty much only Hornady bullets if I want to go heavy. Makes me wonder how a 243 or 260 would do but this doesn't bode well for a $3K rifle.
For what can. Plan Bs are can specific. I have a "Charlie" one that wouldnt go on my saker 556 (then again it wouldnt go on my saker 762 that had one on it) so i spoke to Q they sent me a new one at the same time sent the can to SiCo to check the threads. When it came back Q had me a new one , it worked so used it. The old one is still sitting in my reloading room.
Buy one of these Paramount 1/2″, 3/8″ Drive ... a lot of other sockets walls are too thick, these are guaranteed to work.
For the folks asking about the spec of the chamfer here you go.
Straight off the barrel drawing page, the squiggle is a cutaway. I have no drawing for the extension.
Have you got a link to the barrel drawing page?
I can’t find it on the website. It would be awesome to get hold of it.
I have an ad in the for sale section.
Accessories - All SOLD
Have some new sealed KAC SR-25 mags. Selling in multiples of two. 10rnd mags Fix the feeding issues your Fix has. When these are gone—I can’t get anymore. $170 shipped for two mags. Paypal FF
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Has anyone with a Mini Fix experienced the same feeding and bolt lift problems that the full-size has experienced?
Kinda thinking of playing around with the Mini. Any recommendations on a smith that could spin up a 6mm X 6.8 barrel? Anyone have access to barrel extensions?
And while I’m dreaming, any word on bigger bolt face to run .300WSM in the Fix
And while I’m dreaming, any word on bigger bolt face to run .300WSM in the Fix
Pro-tip:
If you get a new 16” 6.5 CM, it won’t shoot for about 40 rounds.
Clean -
Shoot 20
Clean
Shoot 10
Clean
Shoot 10 and start enjoying it.
4 in a row did this. 2”+ groups for the first 30-40 rounds.
If you get a new 16” 6.5 CM, it won’t shoot for about 40 rounds.
Clean -
Shoot 20
Clean
Shoot 10
Clean
Shoot 10 and start enjoying it.
4 in a row did this. 2”+ groups for the first 30-40 rounds.
I went to the Kit Badger coast to coast finale at JTAC Ranch last Friday just to shoot the mini fix.... Holy hell was that thing sweet and I need one now. Had no problem smacking 200 yard mini IPSC’s and 400yard full size IPSC’s with subs and holding over with a 1-6 eotech I believe it was.
That gun easily got 2000 rounds put through it and was trucking along dirty and hot AF.
Shot a HBSD for the first time too. Was sweet AF as well. It was nasty dirty from just getting gang raped non stop by people there and no malfunctions.
Q makes awesome shit and makes it right.
That gun easily got 2000 rounds put through it and was trucking along dirty and hot AF.
Shot a HBSD for the first time too. Was sweet AF as well. It was nasty dirty from just getting gang raped non stop by people there and no malfunctions.
Q makes awesome shit and makes it right.
Has anybody shot small primer ammo through these? I'm not sure if it would be an issue or not.
I shot some small primer brass in the 6 creed I had and there were zero issues. Even getting up into pressures in load development that started getting some ejector swipes there wasn’t even any primer cratering. 100% good to go.
Sweet, that's what I wanted to hear. I just bought a case of berger 6 creed and didn't know they were small ones. Heading to the range now to go see how they group, as well as, the 103 and 105 hornady's.
Anybody having issues of ridiculous tight bolt lift and can’t even run the bolt? With no ammo or after firing factory ammo. All the same can’t cycle the bolt at all Unless you use all your strength . Brand new with 308 proof barrel. Do they not check rifles before sending them out?
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I’ve had to send mine back for warranty work twice. the second time was heavy bolt lift. only after shooting though, no pressure signs on cases. call Q they turned it around quick and were very helpful on the phone.
Also 308 proof
Also 308 proof
If you have feeding issues with the Fix rifle first thing to do is purchase the Lancer L7AWM 10 round magazine or the KAC if you can find them. The Lancer mags are about $43.00 but they are worth it. The Pmags simply do not work reliably and should be given to a friend who has a use for them. Run the bolt with authority. If you have tried this and it still doesn't work then something else is wrong. One problem at a time.
The only time I have had heavy bolt lift is when my reloads are too hot. Again you must run the bolt with authority. YMMV
The only time I have had heavy bolt lift is when my reloads are too hot. Again you must run the bolt with authority. YMMV
Sig ripping of Kevin?!?!?! Ha! That’s Rich. Try the opposite, and he didn’t even do a good job at it.
I've diagnosed this ad-nauseum including sending the rifle back to Q only to have the same issues. Asking people to run the bolt with authority works, but just covers up for a design / manufacturing flaw. Extract the rounds you slam in and inspect the tips of the bullets. The real issue is that when a 6.5mm bullet rides up the barrel extension, the centerline of the bullet barely misses the chamfer into the chamber and hits the perpendicular end of the barrel. The chamfer needs the be altered. I plated with the Lancer mag including bending feed lips - no luck.
When I chambered my barrel I found this out. Had to put it back into the lathe and make the chamfer much larger. Absolute butter now.
Wow! That is interesting. This photo is my Q 308 barrel that Dave Tooley used for the barrel extension on my new Tooley 6.5 barrel. You can see the chamfer on this barrel is minor. Do you have any pictures of your barrel after you made the chamfer larger, before you put the extension back on? I would like to see
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Before, long bullets would reach over the extension and touch the vertical portion of the breech face, just below the chamfer. If I seated the bullets deeper, the shoulder of the case would contact the extension and lift the tip of the bullet, and it would feed fine. The alteration was pretty easy, and I just cut two wider angles on the existing chamfer(going no deeper), and blended them. My gun never had issues with the factory creed barrel. This barrel is a 6.5x47, and showed the issue immediately. I’ll see if I can take an after pic.
factory chamfer below.
factory chamfer below.
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I didn't have any issues with feeding as soon as I switched to the Lancer magazines and run the bolt with authority. I wouldn't call it butter smooth but it does work. The 6.5 Tooley barrel looks about the same so maybe yours was not cut properly. I was thinking maybe I could improve mine with a larger chamfer but probably not. Your chamfer looks deeper than my 308 barrel but it's hard to say. Your pictures are great!
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This is my Tooley 6.5 barrel. Sorry about the shadows. You can see where the bullets are hitting the chamfer. I'm shooting Hornady ELD bullets but they still leave a mark. My only complaint with the Fix is I wish cycling the bolt was smoother like a Tikka or AI.
I cut the chamfer depth based on the Internal shape of the case, hence the cross-sectioned case. I’ll try and take a pic of mine. It’s also assembled so it won’t be ideal.
It's really hard to tell from photos but your chamfer and my 6.5 look better to me than my factory Q 308 chamfer. Wish I had your knowledge and skill, your work looks beautiful.
