Hi. The Elk was only 300-400 yards. It wasn't far. I shot it with The Fix .308 24" 178gr. ELDX. I shot several animals at greater distance. A Rusa deer was a cold bore shot at over 950 yards using The Fix 20" 6.5CM with 143gr. ELDX. Everything was .308 or 6.5CM with factory loads.
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Hi. The Elk was only 300-400 yards. It wasn't far. I shot it with The Fix .308 24" 178gr. ELDX. I shot several animals at greater distance. A Rusa deer was a cold bore shot at over 950 yards using The Fix 20" 6.5CM with 143gr. ELDX. Everything was .308 or 6.5CM with factory loads.
For 6.5 Grendel 16-18" barrel in medium contour would be best to maximize handiness and capitalize on the weight savings of the mini-Fix vs the Fix. This would also make it different from the 224v which needs a longer barrel to truely shine. Such 6.5 Grendel setup would be sufficiently different from 6.5 creedmoor and could work as a general purpose ultra lite and short walk around hunter.
What magazine will be used with the fix for the short mags? Will it be as simple as a barrel, bolt face and mag swap?
Thanks mate!
I don't personally know Kevin, and am not attempting to speak for him, nor to sound like an echo. I am the (previously) unbiased owner of a Fix. Previously, because once I started shooting it, it was hard to be totally objective anymore. The Fix is simply more than the sum of its parts. If you just look at it as "AR ergos", "like an RPR", you really are missing most of it. The 45 degree bolt throw means nothing to me in and of itself. The lighter weight means nothing, in and of itself. You can fill in the rest of the features along the same lines. The point is, when you have a gun that is as light as the Fix, AND it is fully adjustable (FULLY), and the stock folds, and it takes good mags (I only shoot factory, but I do understand that you reloaders might prefer a longer COAL), and it has superior ergonomics (which allow for easier hits and less recoil), and is has a very short bolt throw, and it takes clip on NV, and it balances perfectly (more ergos), and it is capable of being configured for short and quiet, or longer and further, or anything in between, in almost any caliber that actually matters for real world use (I would love to see a long action version for my own preferences), then maybe you will start to see why the Fix is, if not revolutionary, at least extremely evolutionary. It is simply a more evolved bolt gun. Not to mention that you can do all the work at home yourself, with very little money spent on tools. Look what AI barrel change kits cost. PLus all the other stuff you need for them. The Fix requires much less, though no one will be changing barrels in the field, unless you consider a vice on your tailgate to be "the field."
Which is not to say that our older style guns are obsolete. They are still quite useful, and I like them very much. In some ways they offer advantages that the Fix currently does not. But none of them offer all the things that the Fix offers, and that is why I like it so much.
So, on to the disadvantages or possible negatives of the Fix. We will leave cost aside, because everyone on this board probably has spent a lot of money on custom or factory rifles, and value is in the eye of the owner.
As a hunting gun, which often means cold weather for me, an all metal gun like the Fix is not ideal. There are work-arounds of course, but the fact is that an all metal gun is colder in the cold and hotter in the heat. If you need or want to hand carry it, you will need to do something to mitigate the heat loss, even through warm gloves. I'm currently playing with a Triad Tactical Sniper Skid Pad on mine. The cheekpiece is plastic, so not too bad there, and easily improved if you prefer a softer or warmer option. I shoot almost everyday, regardless of weather, so I'm fairly sensitive to this stuff. Still doesn't bother me much or prevent me from loving the gun.
The full length pic rail up top is a blessing for those of us who like to clip NV in front, but it also adds a cheese grater effect, and so I will likely cover it with rubber pic rail ladders when not in use.
The AR pistol grip/trigger guard dimensions are a blessing and a curse. Awesome for working the offside safety and bolt, but not an ideal trigger reach (too short for most people) if you want to wrap around the grip. Not an issue for me, but I have smaller hands.
I know I'm leaving something out right now, but I have to run and can't remember it.
eta: The last thing that I have come up with that might stand some improvement on the Fix is the mag release button. With or without gloves, I have a hard time feeling it when I move my finger to it from ither the trigger or an index position. It is striated, and I think that large, rough cut checkering would be an improvement. I'm sure I can implement a diy fix for it, but if I could actually change one item on the gun, it would be that.
Which is not to say that our older style guns are obsolete. They are still quite useful, and I like them very much. In some ways they offer advantages that the Fix currently does not. But none of them offer all the things that the Fix offers, and that is why I like it so much.
So, on to the disadvantages or possible negatives of the Fix. We will leave cost aside, because everyone on this board probably has spent a lot of money on custom or factory rifles, and value is in the eye of the owner.
As a hunting gun, which often means cold weather for me, an all metal gun like the Fix is not ideal. There are work-arounds of course, but the fact is that an all metal gun is colder in the cold and hotter in the heat. If you need or want to hand carry it, you will need to do something to mitigate the heat loss, even through warm gloves. I'm currently playing with a Triad Tactical Sniper Skid Pad on mine. The cheekpiece is plastic, so not too bad there, and easily improved if you prefer a softer or warmer option. I shoot almost everyday, regardless of weather, so I'm fairly sensitive to this stuff. Still doesn't bother me much or prevent me from loving the gun.
The full length pic rail up top is a blessing for those of us who like to clip NV in front, but it also adds a cheese grater effect, and so I will likely cover it with rubber pic rail ladders when not in use.
The AR pistol grip/trigger guard dimensions are a blessing and a curse. Awesome for working the offside safety and bolt, but not an ideal trigger reach (too short for most people) if you want to wrap around the grip. Not an issue for me, but I have smaller hands.
I know I'm leaving something out right now, but I have to run and can't remember it.
eta: The last thing that I have come up with that might stand some improvement on the Fix is the mag release button. With or without gloves, I have a hard time feeling it when I move my finger to it from ither the trigger or an index position. It is striated, and I think that large, rough cut checkering would be an improvement. I'm sure I can implement a diy fix for it, but if I could actually change one item on the gun, it would be that.
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Thanks for the reply. I'd seriously consider buying a .223 Mini Fix to be able to also run a 16-18" 6.5G.
There aren't many 6.5G bolt guns available, but the Howa Mini 6,5G seems to sell out pretty quick whenever they come in locally. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but the last year or so has seen the 6.5G explode around here, IMO partially due to the increase of factory load offerings.
Dave
Thanks. I like the idea. We will probably start with 16". Seems like that would be a super handy configuration.
Thank you. I admit that I had to stretch a little for some of the possible downsides, but I was trying to offer as complete a look at the gun as possible, for people who have not shot one. I really can't tell you how much I like this gun, as it is almost exactly what I have wanted for a long time. Just a joy to use.
Yup. The person it's coming from also matters a lot, he's a well respected rifleman.
Kevin, I believe I saw a comment on the instagram about a dedicated lefty Fix. Previously I had posted here about a left handed bolt module. Still right side eject. I would be up for something along those lines without Q having to engineer/market/build a dedicated lefty rifle. Question then would be whether the stock could be retrofitted to fold to the left to capture the handle there.
Thanks,
Thanks,
I appreciate the kind words from LRI and Kevin.
Took my Fix coyote hunting late last night with my clip on. Nothing came in, but we had fun anyway. When it was time to wrap up, not having put my crosshairs on a 'yote, I shot a few steel targets that are out in the field. It was an almost perfect night for NV, and the steel was very easy to see and hit. No rifle I've ever used NV with has been light, and though I wouldn't want to scan through a scope and PVS-22 on any rifle, the Fix makes it very possible. More importantly, when scanning through my 15's, I can switch to the rifle and get it on target very fast because of the lesser weight.
Took my Fix coyote hunting late last night with my clip on. Nothing came in, but we had fun anyway. When it was time to wrap up, not having put my crosshairs on a 'yote, I shot a few steel targets that are out in the field. It was an almost perfect night for NV, and the steel was very easy to see and hit. No rifle I've ever used NV with has been light, and though I wouldn't want to scan through a scope and PVS-22 on any rifle, the Fix makes it very possible. More importantly, when scanning through my 15's, I can switch to the rifle and get it on target very fast because of the lesser weight.
I'm not a fix customer since I shoot lefty, but kudos on the new more informative social media posts and explanatory videos. Giving detailed explanations like ARC is really helpful when looking at the other products as well. I think you can be different and technically informative at the same time.
I am on board with that. My Grendel AR has a 18" barrel and I've built a couple rifles for friends around 16" barrels. That makes for a very handy rifle that is very maneuverable while maintaining good reach. 16"-18" is about right for the Grendel. Once you start going to longer 20"+ barrels, might as well go for 6.5CM or something along those lines.
ILya
@Kevin Brittingham
I'm a lefty and prefer a right hand bolt on my bolt guns but am curious if I will have any issues as far as the bolt hitting my stupid left eye dominant face or will there be plenty of room ?
Sorry to go off topic but I would like to thank you for putting out such great products , I had my old boss bring in your demo pack of cans and can honestly tell you the Full Nelson is hands down the quietest can I have ever had the pleasure of using & will be adding a Fix , Honey Badger & several of your cans to my collection and proudly sell your product when I get my business up & running . Fanboy rant is now done
I'm a lefty and prefer a right hand bolt on my bolt guns but am curious if I will have any issues as far as the bolt hitting my stupid left eye dominant face or will there be plenty of room ?
Sorry to go off topic but I would like to thank you for putting out such great products , I had my old boss bring in your demo pack of cans and can honestly tell you the Full Nelson is hands down the quietest can I have ever had the pleasure of using & will be adding a Fix , Honey Badger & several of your cans to my collection and proudly sell your product when I get my business up & running . Fanboy rant is now done
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Craig,
Hows the bolt lift now with higher pressure loads ? How about the amount of bolt lift compared to the standard rifles the rest of us are used to?
Any other things about the Q that may be reason for concern ?
Thanks
Thanks for the kind words. The new silencers are badass.@Kevin Brittingham
I'm a lefty and prefer a right hand bolt on my bolt guns but am curious if I will have any issues as far as the bolt hitting my stupid left eye dominant face or will there be plenty of room ?
Sorry to go off topic but I would like to thank you for putting out such great products , I had my old boss bring in your demo pack of cans and can honestly tell you the Full Nelson is hands down the quietest can I have ever had the pleasure of using & will be adding a Fix , Honey Badger & several of your cans to my collection and proudly sell your product when I get my business up & running . Fanboy rant is now done
I'll be in New England next week, so I sorta invited myself to visit Q for a couple of hours. Hopefully, I'll get to have my paws on a bunch of stuff that they are working and I'll post pictures as appropriate.
I am more or less done with my review of the Fix now that I got to play with both 6.5CM and 308Win versions, so I will publish that and my observations from visiting them together.
ILya
I am more or less done with my review of the Fix now that I got to play with both 6.5CM and 308Win versions, so I will publish that and my observations from visiting them together.
ILya
@Kevin Brittingham Will you be offering an option for an MLok handguard on the Fix? This is the direction that everyone is headed and lots of folks like me are trying to standardize to one system rather have a several different proprietary attachment systems.
Yeah I wouldn't go that route either. Shy goes bad then what? Out the money? Fuck that noise.
Kevin,
Any word on 300 wsm barrels? Would love to use one for my big game Colorado hunts with 200gr pills.
Thank you,
Any word on 300 wsm barrels? Would love to use one for my big game Colorado hunts with 200gr pills.
Thank you,
Well, I had a chance to visit with Q yesterday. I will have a more detailed report up as time allows, but I am pretty impressed with what I saw. The team is small, but very capable. I spent several hours with them (both with Kevin and with the engineers) asking questions and engaging in discussion. It was an overall enjoyable day and I am really impressed with the quality of the people Kevin has assembled. They know what they are doing and they are gun people. There are things about guns and gun designs that only make sense to you if you actually use the product and these guys use the product.
The MiniFix is going to kick ass. I do not know if I will get the 224 Valkyrie version, but the 300Blackout and 6.5Grendel are at the top of my list. Honestly, if I did not live in CA, I would get the Vlakyrie too, but since I can no longer mail order ammo I am not convinced I want to add calibers.
However, I also saw what they are planning to do with the new 8.6CM cartridge and for that, I am definitely willing to add a caliber. Adding 8.6CM to my Fix the moment it is available is, quite literally, at the top of my list. I will not disclose specifics of the cartridge, since it is for Q to decide when it goes wild, but I think it will be an absolute hit.
They have other interesting things coming further down the line, and I really like the way the approach stuff and the focus on not makign anytign heavier than it needs to be.
A couple of things to keep in mind before I wrap up for now: Kevin knows what he is doing and he is not just a "big picture marketing guy". He may try to sound like a country bumpkin every once in a while, but I suggest you do not buy into that. When I asked Kevin technical questions, I got technical answers. None of the marketing BS. Also, he has enough faith in his team and his product to leave me with them "unsupervised" for a few hours. You will never see pure marketing people do that. From my standpoint, it was really nice to pick their brains a bit and, for a change, get serious and well considered answers to a slew of questions.
I have been playing with the Fix since early January or so. My initial impression of the gun was extremely positive and it has only improved from there. The more time I spend with this rifle, the more I like it. It is easily the best general purpose bolt gun I have seen to date and now that I have visited Q, I have a much better understanding of why it turned out the way it did.
ILya
The MiniFix is going to kick ass. I do not know if I will get the 224 Valkyrie version, but the 300Blackout and 6.5Grendel are at the top of my list. Honestly, if I did not live in CA, I would get the Vlakyrie too, but since I can no longer mail order ammo I am not convinced I want to add calibers.
However, I also saw what they are planning to do with the new 8.6CM cartridge and for that, I am definitely willing to add a caliber. Adding 8.6CM to my Fix the moment it is available is, quite literally, at the top of my list. I will not disclose specifics of the cartridge, since it is for Q to decide when it goes wild, but I think it will be an absolute hit.
They have other interesting things coming further down the line, and I really like the way the approach stuff and the focus on not makign anytign heavier than it needs to be.
A couple of things to keep in mind before I wrap up for now: Kevin knows what he is doing and he is not just a "big picture marketing guy". He may try to sound like a country bumpkin every once in a while, but I suggest you do not buy into that. When I asked Kevin technical questions, I got technical answers. None of the marketing BS. Also, he has enough faith in his team and his product to leave me with them "unsupervised" for a few hours. You will never see pure marketing people do that. From my standpoint, it was really nice to pick their brains a bit and, for a change, get serious and well considered answers to a slew of questions.
I have been playing with the Fix since early January or so. My initial impression of the gun was extremely positive and it has only improved from there. The more time I spend with this rifle, the more I like it. It is easily the best general purpose bolt gun I have seen to date and now that I have visited Q, I have a much better understanding of why it turned out the way it did.
ILya
@Kevin Brittingham
Three questions-
what is the actual issue with heavy the bolt? You may not want to say, and I understand, but I would hope you could share with customers
I thought it was taken care of already but it seemed like it may still be happening, so is it will more be shipped with the issue
and I’m sorry for this one- when will the last of the pre orders be shipped. I was told February and it’s almost not feb any more I hope the answer is the end of the week. Fingers crossed.
Three questions-
what is the actual issue with heavy the bolt? You may not want to say, and I understand, but I would hope you could share with customers
I thought it was taken care of already but it seemed like it may still be happening, so is it will more be shipped with the issue
and I’m sorry for this one- when will the last of the pre orders be shipped. I was told February and it’s almost not feb any more
I hope the answer is the end of the week. Fingers crossed.I think I have the medium. It wraps around the handguard most of the way, but does not cover the Pic rail on top. Works better than I had hoped, both for its intended purpose, as well as helping mitigate the cold.
In other news, I just swapped the 6.5 barrel onto it today, as well as its intended scope, the 4-16 ATACR. I'll get it zero'd tomorrow and see how she does. I'm not the best gunsmith around, (to understate the issue) and it took me 30 mins to swap barrels, including having to find my barrel wrench and clamp the barrel an extra time or two since I forgot to slip the barrel nut over it before putting it in the vice. If I had it down straight, it would have been closer to 20 mins. Once I actually get the hang of it, I imagine that it wouldn't take me more than 15 mins, without rushing at all. Someone with better skills could likely do it faster.
Also put an Elite Iron bipod on it, and they seem made for each other. The Revolution has some idiosyncrasies that I need to get used to, but it seems like a great option at this time. Not what I would carry on a hunt, but for LR stuff, it seems to be great.
I have found a flaw with the Fix, perhaps a fatal one We called in 3 coyotes the night before last, and they came in pretty fast, pausing briefly at about 200 yards. The SHV works great with the 22, but I expect the ATACR to do even better. Anyway, it turns out, I can't shoot the Fix as fast as my AR's. 3 coyotes is just too much for my bolt skills. Oh well, I can live with it.
In other news, I just swapped the 6.5 barrel onto it today, as well as its intended scope, the 4-16 ATACR. I'll get it zero'd tomorrow and see how she does. I'm not the best gunsmith around, (to understate the issue) and it took me 30 mins to swap barrels, including having to find my barrel wrench and clamp the barrel an extra time or two since I forgot to slip the barrel nut over it before putting it in the vice. If I had it down straight, it would have been closer to 20 mins. Once I actually get the hang of it, I imagine that it wouldn't take me more than 15 mins, without rushing at all. Someone with better skills could likely do it faster.
Also put an Elite Iron bipod on it, and they seem made for each other. The Revolution has some idiosyncrasies that I need to get used to, but it seems like a great option at this time. Not what I would carry on a hunt, but for LR stuff, it seems to be great.
I have found a flaw with the Fix, perhaps a fatal one
We called in 3 coyotes the night before last, and they came in pretty fast, pausing briefly at about 200 yards. The SHV works great with the 22, but I expect the ATACR to do even better. Anyway, it turns out, I can't shoot the Fix as fast as my AR's. 3 coyotes is just too much for my bolt skills. Oh well, I can live with it. 
I got excited reading this in email:
Listed price represents a refundable 50% deposit.
When your rifle is ready to ship, you will be given an exclusive code to purchase your mini FIX at 50% off.
Then at preorder read this:
Listed price represents a refundable 50% deposit.
When your rifle is ready to ship, you will be given an exclusive link to pay the remaining 50% balance.
Too good to be true for 50% off
Listed price represents a refundable 50% deposit.
When your rifle is ready to ship, you will be given an exclusive code to purchase your mini FIX at 50% off.
Then at preorder read this:
Listed price represents a refundable 50% deposit.
When your rifle is ready to ship, you will be given an exclusive link to pay the remaining 50% balance.
Too good to be true for 50% off
When I placed my pre-order for the mini-FIX, both the email and the webpage had the same verbiage; I took that to mean that the total price of the rifle was $1350. However, after reading the clarified verbiage specifying that an additional $1350 will be due when the rifle is ready to ship, I'll likely be cancelling my pre-order... I'm certain that the mini-FIX will be an excellent product, I just don't have $2700 worth of use for one.
Ahhhh.... Okay then?? Moving right along.
I think my state in NSW, Australia, is going to ban these things because they're reminiscent of an AR10... Mark my words..
I think my state in NSW, Australia, is going to ban these things because they're reminiscent of an AR10... Mark my words..
Well, it’s March. Probably doesn’t mean a lot to you guys, but if you recal from previous posts, I was supposed to have my ore ordered rifle in February. I emailed 3-4 days ago asking for an update and I sent another email this morning specifically asking for a new ETA. Still no response to either email. The last email I got said they are waiting for the next shipment of 22” barrels, so maybe that was BS or maybe they did not specify how many shipments they need. Either way they said we were still on the February timeline... I will let everyone know if/when I get shipment notice
I asked my dealer and they said they should have gotten a few more already but no word. They would be 22" creedmoors.
I just wish there would be a little more communication. That’s my biggest complaint about this whole process. The company is doing great things, and it certainly seems like most of not all of their claims are legit (I say most purely for argument sake), but it certainly seems to take a while to get solid answers. Oh well, vent over.
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