Q actually got back to me via email and told me the wear on the receiver is normal. Wondering if anyone else is seeing the same?
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Q actually got back to me via email and told me the wear on the receiver is normal. Wondering if anyone else is seeing the same?
I picked my 6.5 Fix w/ 22" barrel from my FFL on Monday. It weighs 10lb, 5oz with a LRTSi 4.5-18x44 in a Badger Unimount. Hopefully, Q will offer a either a 20" or 22" Proof barrel option as that should bring it down closer to 8lbs. However, right now it looks like they aren't even offering a the proof upgrade on new rifles.
I think that bag rider is just their pic rail attachment, but not sure
Definitly been logging down all the small prototype Gucci parts I've seen for the Fix. Couple that stood out:
-Wider buttpad
-Two larger bolt knobs, one was a ball and I think the other was similar to the mausingfield knob
-34mm scope rings that integrate directly into the receiver
-Q carbon fiber bipod with what looks to be a KMW style cant lock
Patiently waiting for all of them to come out
I am pretty sure there is an attachment on the pic rail. There is another employee rocking the same attachment on instagram.
I really like the cylinder knob. I hope they get them to market soon.
I also noticed the direct mount scope mount. Looks pretty neat. Just a shame it won’t fit my 5-20X50 ultra short.
Not sure about that bipod though. I’m more than happy with my Atlas.
All right fellas/ladies, anyone loading with H4350? I’m sure a lot of you are, so how many grains are you loading? Right now I’m looking at 40.6 and it’s shooting well. I’ve tried up to 41 and it MAYBE started to show some primer changes. Just wondering what everyone else is running.
That seems to be kinda normal. Those are the same rounds I am using. I’m going on a hunt in a couple weeks, but when I get back I make keep going and see how it looks
I should have asked if you are using small primer brass from the likes of Lapua, Peterson or starline and if so is there any issue with primer cratering?
Gotcha, large primer- prime ammo brass, and the possible cratering was “discovered” by comparing three different pieces of brass in bright light and derterming that the 41 grain load had just a hairs width or a fraction of a hairs width of cratering. We didn’t even notice it at first inspection
I believe they do offer the Proof barrel upgrade for new guns, they just seem to sell out of them pretty fast in 6.5CM. I’ll see if I have a scale that’ll weigh mine with the 22” Proof 6.5cm if your curious. I bought mine with the 16” .308 but wanted a 6.5cm barrel and my only option at the time was ordering the proof.
Finally got time to flute the barrel I told you about. Q 6.5 med Palma 16 1/2" long with extension
unfluted 16 1/2" 3.10 lbs.
fluted 2.77 lbs
flute details .250" W flat bottom with radius .100" deep
flute length center to center of cutter 9.0195"
weight reduction 5.28 ozs. from fluting
weight reduction reducing barrel length from 22" to 16 1/2" 11 ozs.
unfluted 16 1/2" 3.10 lbs.
fluted 2.77 lbs
flute details .250" W flat bottom with radius .100" deep
flute length center to center of cutter 9.0195"
weight reduction 5.28 ozs. from fluting
weight reduction reducing barrel length from 22" to 16 1/2" 11 ozs.
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I haven't seen anything offered by Q other than 24" and 26" Proof barrel either as an upgrade or as a separate option. Right now none are available as an option. Was the 22" offered at some point earlier? I'd definitely like to know the weight difference between the 22" medium palma and the 22" proof.
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Just chewing on some numbers.
Starting from scratch using a light Palma saves approximately 8 ozs. vs a medium Palma @22".
Take off 1.5 ozs per inch for shorter barrels.
Starting from scratch using a light Palma saves approximately 8 ozs. vs a medium Palma @22".
Take off 1.5 ozs per inch for shorter barrels.
According to Proofs website, a Light Sendero 20” 6.5mm 7Twist is 2lb 10oz (Thinnest and shortest they make).
I believe the 22” Factory 6.5mm is 3lb 2oz approx. Both weights are obviously without anything else attached and the proof barrel unchambered (negligible).
Finally, the 16” factory 308 is 2lb 4oz.
The ultimate for me would be 20” proof 6.5creed (or 6.5Sherman when WSM bolt is released and mag is sorted), the 8inch handguard and the short rail or direct mount. That should keep the bare rifle in the 6lb range with decent ballistics.
In combo with a March or maybe TT H series at the maximum, should be laughing.
I believe the 22” Factory 6.5mm is 3lb 2oz approx. Both weights are obviously without anything else attached and the proof barrel unchambered (negligible).
Finally, the 16” factory 308 is 2lb 4oz.
The ultimate for me would be 20” proof 6.5creed (or 6.5Sherman when WSM bolt is released and mag is sorted), the 8inch handguard and the short rail or direct mount. That should keep the bare rifle in the 6lb range with decent ballistics.
In combo with a March or maybe TT H series at the maximum, should be laughing.
Macca,
Did you view the attached photos?
That’s a 24” 6.5 proof research barrel with the cherry bomb and barrel extension. And it’s only 2lb 10oz.
I would say the 6oz over the 16” bartlein .308 barrel is well worth while.
It’s funny you mention the March scope. I’ve got a 5-20X50 Schmidt ultra short rrady to mount on my Fix. However I’m now looking for a secondhand March 2.5-25X42 to save weight. I already have one of the 1-10x24 March but would like the extra mag ideally.
Has their been any updates on barrel extensions to spin your own barrel? I'd be interested in 18" 6.5 creed.
Interesting....I just weighed my 260 Rem Proof barrel for Fix and it matches what Q is reporting, about 3lbs 3oz.
Picked up mine week before last. If anyone is still looking for one in stock, Cabela's may have more. Nice rifle. Very light. I put a 5-25x56 gen2xr S&B on it and got the adapter to mount my Mk13-SD. Whole rifle in this config weighs what my AI AW bare did.
Some observations...
I'm glad Q has a bag rider piece and wider recoil pad in the works. Those two interface points with the rifle are narrow and for consistency it helps me if the contact patches at both places are wider. I considered using a piece of wood or a scrap of cutting board and making my own but I pulled an old cylinder shaped tab bag out and the stock works great with it. With how narrow the rear bottom is I feel you need a fairly heavily stuffed bag to get the support and purchase needed.
The Magpul magazine is a good mag but maybe not the best pattern choice. I would have liked to see them use AW magazines as I feel they are currently the best short action magazine. I did order an ASC 10 rounder as it's supported COAL is 2.865" (up from 2.830 in the Magpul). But a few things to note. My rifles lands measured out to a coal of 2.830" with 139gr Scenars. So extra mag length for that bullet is unlikely to be needed as upto .030 jump has shot well for me in plenty of barrels. And the other is the ASC mag has a spring inside that's nearly long enough to be a 20 round spring. I ended up cutting coils from the base of it because the extreme upward pressure of the follower was binding up the round being pushed out of the magazine with the one below it. Likely from the friction of how hard it was being pushed up causing it to really want to feed along with the round above. In the end I cut the spring down almost by half.. with it inside the mag body with the follower maybe 1 coil protrudes from the base with the plate off. It works fine otherwise now.
The q sert sling adapter put the logo and nice milling features so they face inwards...? It's a nice looking piece looking at the backside. The front is just a flat plate with a hole... Not a big thing, but I found that inexplicable
The dog seems excited as well.. but for the wrong reasons?
Some observations...
I'm glad Q has a bag rider piece and wider recoil pad in the works. Those two interface points with the rifle are narrow and for consistency it helps me if the contact patches at both places are wider. I considered using a piece of wood or a scrap of cutting board and making my own but I pulled an old cylinder shaped tab bag out and the stock works great with it. With how narrow the rear bottom is I feel you need a fairly heavily stuffed bag to get the support and purchase needed.
The Magpul magazine is a good mag but maybe not the best pattern choice. I would have liked to see them use AW magazines as I feel they are currently the best short action magazine. I did order an ASC 10 rounder as it's supported COAL is 2.865" (up from 2.830 in the Magpul). But a few things to note. My rifles lands measured out to a coal of 2.830" with 139gr Scenars. So extra mag length for that bullet is unlikely to be needed as upto .030 jump has shot well for me in plenty of barrels. And the other is the ASC mag has a spring inside that's nearly long enough to be a 20 round spring. I ended up cutting coils from the base of it because the extreme upward pressure of the follower was binding up the round being pushed out of the magazine with the one below it. Likely from the friction of how hard it was being pushed up causing it to really want to feed along with the round above. In the end I cut the spring down almost by half.. with it inside the mag body with the follower maybe 1 coil protrudes from the base with the plate off. It works fine otherwise now.
The q sert sling adapter put the logo and nice milling features so they face inwards...? It's a nice looking piece looking at the backside. The front is just a flat plate with a hole... Not a big thing, but I found that inexplicable
The dog seems excited as well.. but for the wrong reasons?
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Sorry I must have misread with my previous comment or perhaps assumed that the 2lb 10oz proof barrel was a .308 Win.
If that's the case, that a 24 inch 6.5mm Carbon barrel weighs only 2lb 10oz, sign me up. I must admit that I'm somewhat sceptical. I still really want a 6.5 short magnum of some description, thinking that the 6.5 Sherman Short Tactical magnum is the best fit for the AR10 mags.
https://shermanwildcatcartridges.com/6-5-sst
Not sure what happened at Q with the sling swivels, but they had lots of trouble with them so I guess they went this route to at least get some out. Not elegant at all, but I like how low profile and lightweight they are. My only gripe with them is the hex fastener. One of the selling points that Q made originally was that only a t25 was needed. When I asked them about it, they said something along the lines of, "The shop didn't have any T25's, so we went with this."
Five shot group I recorded the other day with 308 Fix.
125 gr SST Hornady Custom Lite Factory Load
I'll probably definitely be buying one over the next Harris I was planning to get for a different rifle, but I am trying to hold out to see what this new Q bipod looks like too.
I wish Q-sert was more popular, at this point we are stuck w/ buying Q accessories for the lightest weight, since adding a rail to add accessories seems counterintuitive to the goals of the rifle. And we're stuck with the pace of development and availability from Q. Or we can buy a $275 mlok rail... LOL. Can't win!
Yeah, that's kind of crazy. They definitely went up in price, dramatically. Still a hex though.
Yes it’s on the rifle, the improvement in balance is a night and day difference. I’m happy with the change.
I was gonna give you some crap for no pics, haha, but I guess we all know what a 16" Fix looks like, and the fluting is probably pretty much impossible to see under the handguard. Hope it does well for you!
just passing through. is the WSM bolt/mag going to happen, or just SH rumor?
on the fence as I scale down heavier weapons and a mag bolt face may just do it. understand mag COAL limitations, but from what pics I see, the port is actually bigger than magazine itself? maybe could single load longer rds for that twice a year I would get to shoot past 1200
on the fence as I scale down heavier weapons and a mag bolt face may just do it. understand mag COAL limitations, but from what pics I see, the port is actually bigger than magazine itself? maybe could single load longer rds for that twice a year I would get to shoot past 1200
That was one of my gripes as well. I am also having issues finding a QD sling that stays attached..... it’s too low profile to work with the proof barrel unless mounted in the farthest forward two positions. My QD sling holds tight in the stock, but pull out of of the rail attachment pretty easy.
I am fairly certain that 300 WSM was announced by Q as a caliber they were going to offer for the Fix. Here is a TFB article, but I don't really know of an official statement: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/31/q-hq-fix/
My guess is that Q is really preoccupied with creating their new hotness, the 8.6 Creedmoor, and we'll likely see that released before 300 WSM. It has been hard enough to find any of the current offering's barrels, and the barrel nut wrench has been out of stock for weeks if not months at this point. At the same time they also have irons in the fire for the Mini Fix, an R700 Fix chassis, a bipod, and suppressors, it's hard to see how soon we'll see more love for their fullsize Fix.
This is 100% my armchair speculation though, from following them on social media and being generally interested in the company as a whole. I could be completely wrong.
If I don't screw it up, I'm getting about 0.5" to 0.75" groups at 100 yds with FGMM 168 and 175s.
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