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I’m happy with my version 1. Doesn’t get used as much as it needs to, but no need to get another
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Night Vision The Official: Steiner C35 Thermal Clip-on Review and User Thread!
- Thread starter TheHorta
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Maybe there will be some deals to be had on some V1's when V2 comes out. Better start saving my pennies.
Just got around to zeroing c35 today. Bought from another hide member. So I have a problem getting the c35 to keep the adjustments made in thermal. It will move day scopes reticle in the screen, w&e numders moves in the screen on thermal. Press menu button to save adjustments,goes to cancel/confirm screen, select confirm, press menu button and it returns to the A B C screen. Ok think it saved adjustments, fire at same target, shots place in previous groups, no adjustment. Go back in the c35 menu,check for saved adjustment sets and it shows the original settings before I moved to new settings. Tried this 3 different times and the settings are always back to same previous settings. Any thoughts? Would taking it back to factory reset fix this? Or am I missing a set in zeroing this thermal. I have several Pulsar thermals that I have setup one scope for several different rifles without issue. Any help welcomed.
Make sure you are in the right menu
IIRC, there is a menu setting that looks a lot like the zeroing screen, but it's different.
IIRC, there is a menu setting that looks a lot like the zeroing screen, but it's different.
Once the wifi and app started trying to connect. It must have done something, cause while trying to connect devices to zeroing adjustment screen held adjustments made while I tried previous procedures above. I got it zeroed to day sight now. Must be gremlins or something but it's good to gofor the moment. Thanks guys for the help. Will try it on another rifle sometimes this week
Schmidt and benders yes.... Feel the need to wash just saying Leupold gross
Couldn’t see shit with RH25 as clip on in front ultrashort 3-20 or Mk5hd 3.6-18 so I was wondering if the C35 is a better optionSchmidt and benders yes.... Feel the need to wash just saying Leupold gross
Yeah 3x is nice behind the c35. I have a 3-18 t6xi and it works great with my c35 and so does my 3.5x acog.
I've put the C35 in front of IOR, Steiner, S&B, NF, Burris optics from 1x to 20x. Pixellation increases with magnification, simple as that. I find it usable at 10-12x and even higher than that but target distance and size are a factor. An 8" gong at 200m at 20x was in territory I'd call not entirely usable. At 10-12x totally fine if a little NES level pixellated.
Yes, I can connect, view files and go to settings, but unable to stream live view. I've tried two different phones, uninstalling and reinstalling app, airplane mode, but wasn't able stream. Called Burris today without any resolution. Hopefully they'll come up with firmware fix soon.
Good to hear. Can I get a quick lesson for the future? Is there an updated C35 that got released or is coming? Is the S35 supposed to be the replacement or could be used as a clip on?
Turning off cellular doesn’t effect anything. I removed the app & reinstalled it without effect as well. It would appear as though this is a Steiner app issue. Great…
Files & Folders is now also checked, but it still isn’t working. This blowz…
Files & Folders is now also checked, but it still isn’t working. This blowz…
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S35 is a dedicated scope. H35 is handheld scanner. The C35 got discontinued pretty quickly. I suspect it was a loss leader with the mount they had to make for us. Too bad. Helluva unit.
EDITED to correct bad info. Had head up ass while posting.
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Edit: I found that if I turned the unit off, then made the adjustment needed, it seemed to save the adjustment.
I have the S35 . My unit did the exact same thing. Trying to fine tune an adjustment, and it just refuses to save certain coordinates. I also had some other issues with the optic which led me to send it in. I was missing WAY more shots on critters than I should have been. Some of which should have been no brainer slam dunk shots. So after an outing and a few misses or poor hits I’d check my zero, and lo and behold it would be off a little bit, but sometimes it’d be dead on. So I got to the point where I’d zero the optic the night of a hunt, but I’d still have misses. One morning I was so pissed I removed the optic, triple checked everything on the rifle and optic for anything loose to cause the problems. I then mounted it on my 17 hmr and burned up about 350 rounds at 50 yards keeping detailed notes about each group. The magnification, impacts, coordinates of zero etc. I was able to shoot 1/4-3/8” 3 shot groups so the data was good. Doing all this I learned:
1. The PIP reticle and main screen reticle did not match up, AT native “1X” there was about 1.25” at 50 yards discrepancy.
2. The PIP did align perfectly with main reticle at “1.1x” and above,
3. It was a waste of time trying to use the zoom feature in the zeroing setting. If you chose anything other than the native magnification it would go stupid. This is where most of my ammo went. I couldn’t come up with any way to make it make sense. I ended up just zeroing it such as a typical rifle scope. Shoot a group, adjust it, shoot another group, adjust again, etc until it was perfect.
4. If I turned the unit off, then back on I would lose zero, SOMETIMES. This is where it got so frustrating and the lightbulb went off in my head as to why I was always missing. The unit always stayed “true” as in not wondering around while shooting. I was always able to stack a tight group throughout each session. But if I turned it off and back on, the new group would be as much as 2-3” away from the last group. I did this about 15-20 times. Turning it off and back on, firing 3 shot groups at same POA each time. By the end of that I had 6 (I think) very distinct POI’s. At 50 yards there was a nearly 6” grouping containing 6—1/2” groups of 8-10 shots per group.
Now if you consider I did this at only 50 yards in perfect atmospheric conditions, that equates to over 12” at 100 yards. Easily causing misses and terrible shots on coyotes and coons. Then add in a few shots taken at 2-250 yards and there’s almost no way to be able to make those shots.
I sent the unit in, and I was shipped a brand new (I think) unit. I mounted it to a 10/22 and repeated the same tests as above, I was satisfied, mounted it up to my .17 and has satisfactory results, mounted it up to .223 bolt gun, and was making first round impacts at 300 yards on 6” steel. Turning unit off between shots. I’m happy with the unit now and hopefully I cannot blame it for any misses in the futre.
Steiner app has been updated and I’m able to stream now
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Price will be everything IMO. There are so many competitive product at good prices out there right now.
I think original pricing was about $5,000. Then Steiner had refurbs for $2,500. Then a price increase….now a refurb from battlehawk last month was $2999 or you can snag one second hand for $3,000
Really? I must be losing my memory, I thought I recalled these routinely going in the 2500 range NIB from vendors about mid-way through its lifespan as a regularly stocked item.
They were sold at that price after Steiner discontinued them.
I think they were a SH black Friday at that cost.
I've got one for sale now I'll make a deal on
Armasight has the Jockey which is a 640 unit with a 17 deg FOV and they are starting things off at $3500 so that is probably where they need to be.
Looks much lighter / and compact which is awesome. I hope they don't compromise on durability (308 rated at least). Looking forward to hearing reports from SHOT 2024
ETA: the German's get the info first! https://www.steiner.de/en/nighthunter-c35/8700000105
460g (16 oz), 12.5 deg FOV (sounds like 640 sensor), HD screen (1280x768), 3,000 euro which is pretty close to $3,000!
Looks much lighter / and compact which is awesome. I hope they don't compromise on durability (308 rated at least). Looking forward to hearing reports from SHOT 2024
ETA: the German's get the info first! https://www.steiner.de/en/nighthunter-c35/8700000105
460g (16 oz), 12.5 deg FOV (sounds like 640 sensor), HD screen (1280x768), 3,000 euro which is pretty close to $3,000!
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The new unit looks to be scope objective mounted vs picatinny which is a major con. Hopefully that's just the European "cant be mil related" variant
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