I would definitely be interested if there's a version where the handle isn't so close to the lens, I run mine close up to my objective lens on my day scope and the lever would get in the way.
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Night Vision The Official: Steiner C35 Thermal Clip-on Review and User Thread!
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I would definitely be interested if there's a version where the handle isn't so close to the lens, I run mine close up to my objective lens on my day scope and the lever would get in the way.
The lever is being adjusted so with a 1.5 inch height 56mm scope, it will clear the objective and housing of the scope.
Nice. Speaking of the focus, some guy mentioned to me that when you change the focus on the thermal it also changes the zero. That doesn't make much sense to me, does it actually change the zero when you move the focus knob?
It potentially can. This is why many clip-on devices have a non-rotating objective lens (whether it is focusable or not). I've even seen some advertise that their objective focus does NOT actually rotate the lens, presumably for this reason. I did not notice the POI change for my LWTS some years back, but have not gotten to test it w/ my C35. Checking this on my to-do list over the next couple weeks. That said, so far I don't have a great deal of concern as the C35 seems to have a relatively generous depth of field requiring no focus adjustment within my intended use envelope (~50-300 yd).
Another note I forgot to mention earlier was that it seems to work as a handheld just fine, not necessarily requiring magnification behind it for use. The only negatives I can think of for using this as a handheld is the relative bulk (my current L3/Eotech X640 handheld fits in a coat pocket and takes AA batteries) and weight of it compared to most dedicated scanners as well as lack of a digital zoom function. Many would probably also prefer a wider FOV than this 35mm lens system allows for, but that is fairly subjective.
Just noticed that Steiner has blemmed C35s available for 2k USD directly through them: https://store.steiner-optics.com/products/nighthunter-c35?variant=43199627788532
Is model #9522-B in the link above a clip-on with mount or does the mount come separate. If it is separate, where do you find it? Might be too good of a deal to pass up.
Anyone else see in this article that it claims the C35 has "Stadiametric Rangefinder"? Maybe they are talking about the S35? Can anyone elaborate on this?
The manual mentions something about a zoom function but I think earlier in the thread it was confirmed that it's a typo. From my testing the c35 does not have zoom, but the s35 does.
@shootingnut is correct. In post 218 I stated I called Steiner and the C35 does NOT zoom. Hope that helps.
I did not ask about that. I did not see anything in mine. I am assuming it may also be an error in the manual. Steiner was great to talk to answer my questions though. Sorry I can't help.
Just turned mine on to confirm and it does have the stadiametric rangefinder feature that's described in the manual.
Thanks for the info. I will have to take a closer look tonight. These old eyes are beginning to suck.
I know this is more than the blem but it's not a bad price. If you click the special offer it is an additional $250 off.
Midway USA
I know about 6-7 folks who were able to take advantage of the $2K blem deal this morning (myself included).
Yeah, I registered for notifications on the blems.
@DustBun there are several places here on the hide and online that you can get them for a good bit less than that.
Not worth it.
I HIGHLY doubt you'll see that again. I didn't even bother putting in for notifications. And if it does comes back, it'll be 1k+ more.
I wonder how much deals like these will destroy Trijicon and similar companies used thermal value on the second hand market.
@jstokes1 lol, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they have more demo's.
Steiner will continue to market them at trade shows and range sessions, only way to get market share in an already competitive market.
$1k more would put it at what you can get a new one for with discounts.
Not saying that there won't be more demo units available, but if you expect that price of 2k again then you'll be mistaken. I hope I'm wrong.
*shoots C35 with 50 BMG*
"Sorry I had a couple too many drinks and was wondering how tough the housing was"
"Sorry I had a couple too many drinks and was wondering how tough the housing was"
Darn it!! Don’t you have enough thermals? Let us poors have a shot.
Listen, I’ll send you $2050 for it. It will be the easiest $50 you’ve ever made. Maybe….
So I’m assuming at $2k this is a can’t miss best value in the thermal market acquisition.
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You would assume correctly. At 5k, I would choose a super yoter 10 out of 10 times. At 2k though, there isn't anything else like the steiner on the market that isn't a piece of shit.
That was a good deal! I saw it super early this morning but it was not clear whether it came with a mount or not so I didn't pull the trigger. Also, they say "sold as is" so I figure there is no warranty, but I could be (hopefully) wrong. In hindsight, I should've bought one anyways even if it was for use as a handheld.
I've never used a Yoter, can you please explain why you prefer it to the C35 if price was comparable? I've seen deals on used ones in the past, but didn't bite because of seeing problems with Bering thermal products on the forums and people saying that they felt "cheap."
I've never used a Yoter, can you please explain why you prefer it to the C35 if price was comparable? I've seen deals on used ones in the past, but didn't bite because of seeing problems with Bering thermal products on the forums and people saying that they felt "cheap."
I assume it still comes with the mount as most stock images don’t show it with the mount. Also, I’m not sure “as is” applies to the C35 as under the blem definition that seems to only apply to the binoculars so it seems the warranty should apply albeit not for cosmetic issues. Additionally it seems their return policy should apply (30 days) as I can’t find anywhere where it is marked final sale.
Did anyone confirm any of these points with Steiner?
Did anyone confirm any of these points with Steiner?
The Super yoter has a smaller FOV and more back end demagnification, making it a better clip on. The Steiner seems to be built better, but the weight is pretty determental to carrying it around (in my area at least). The Super yoter punches above its weight class, but to be fair, I haven't had the steiner in hand (hopefully soon though so I can do a review).
According to a buddy, it should come with a mount, yes. I believe it still has the 5 year warranty as well.
I’ve got a Serbu semi auto and M2HB full I can try one on
The question now is, does changing the focus change the POI? I have to test that, unless you know.
Love the lever. Events have conspired to keep me from getting out with this little gem, but the focus has been my issue when playing with it in the basement. The lever will go a long way toward solving the problem. Any idea when you'll have them available? I'll be down for one.
In hoping to have the first batch done in two weeks, but I'm not going to put it out until it's perfect.
Sure thing. Please consider the fact that it has now been 4+ years since I've looked through the LWTS that I owned, so take the below with a grain of salt.
I loved my LWTS but felt the performance for IDing to be lacking compared to what I was expecting. It wasn't my first thermal by a long shot, but I was hoping for more in the details at distance. Perhaps that was just me having unrealistic expectations. The POI/POA was off by more than what I was expecting, so it went back to L3 since it needed a firmware update anyways. When it came back it was fine, but image was still not what I was hoping for under magnification. I sold it because I moved and could no longer hunt hogs. This image, to me (not side by side), is AT LEAST as good as the LWTS. It may even be a bit better, but that is going off of memory. It cost me a small fraction of what the LWTS did, so this device has wildly exceeded my expectations. I like the metal housing also, and the fact that the removable battery is rechargeable. The LWTS functioned better as a handheld than the C35 I think, but that is subjective. Both have intuitive controls so that is a wash for me. The pic and video capability of the C35 makes it a lot more fun to use since you can instantly capture what you are seeing. Both devices are wonderful, but so far I'm glad I've got the C35 and it does everything for me that the LWTS did except for the stand-alone gig that I rarely used anyways.
Not sure if this helps anyone, and I'm now realizing I should've also recorded the image itself, but here's a video shooting a hot rock at 940 yards at night through the c35. Was probably a 3 MOA sized target give or take, so not super impressive, but it was still so fun to make hits at all at night.
You can hear the report of the impact about a second after the shot.
You can hear the report of the impact about a second after the shot.
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