The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.

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W54/XM-388 said:
"Researchers" stole it.

Pretty much why the Chinese make it a priority to have "students" and "professors" and "researchers" at pretty much every "educational" or other institution they can. Often Dual Citizens who are Commie lovers at heart.
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Can you come up with any evidence for this or any other human disease being man made?

There are many Chinese graduate students and postdocs in American labs simply because they are more willing to work the long hours for little pay that such positions entail. It’s not a plot. Their educational system is better than ours on average (some of this is just due to the cultural values related to academic achievement).
 
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Where are you guys getting these numbers? 3.7% and 6% mortality rates? Those number are huge. Are you looking at people over 65 stats or what? If we get to 6% over all its definitely game on! Let it start mutating and were talking about a serious population reform, 7th year of the rabbit type shit!! Don't get me excited with that nonsense.
 
#1,156
W54/XM-388 said:
"Researchers" stole it.

Pretty much why the Chinese make it a priority to have "students" and "professors" and "researchers" at pretty much every "educational" or other institution they can. Often Dual Citizens who are Commie lovers at heart.
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Interesting.

My uncle works at the level-4 lab that's around Winnipeg MB. I'm curious to hear his thoughts on all this COVID-19 stuff.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
"Researchers" stole it.

Pretty much why the Chinese make it a priority to have "students" and "professors" and "researchers" at pretty much every "educational" or other institution they can. Often Dual Citizens who are Commie lovers at heart.
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Chinese dude just got caught trying to smuggle cancer cells from his top research hospital job in Boston back to China.

What that didn't make national news?

I think he was given $100k bail despite fed atty asking he be locked up.

Paid bail, out amongst us now.

www.telegram.com

Judge orders house arrest for Chinese researcher

WORCESTER – A federal judge in Worcester Friday ordered a Chinese researcher accused of trying to smuggle cancer cells to China released before trial, denying a request from prosecutors that he delay…
www.telegram.com

www.bostonglobe.com

Chinese medical student accused of trying to smuggle cancer research material out of Boston - The Boston Globe

Zaosong Zheng’s arrest reflects a wider crackdown by the US government in the past year on Chinese scholars and researchers suspected of espionage and scientific theft.
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They are not our friends.

They laugh at our naïveté and the double dealing of our leaders.

They consider us deplorable and dumb.
 
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phlegethon said:
That is wise. It’s better to get ahead of this before it’s everywhere. That is the whole point. Infection control doesn’t work if the population is already saturated.
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It would be nice to see this philosophy clearly communicated to the American people, because I suspect that most of us will be subject to its effects in one way or another in the coming months.

I'm mentally preparing for the possibility that my kids won't be finishing the school year, and may indeed be staying at home during the day for some or all of the summer.
 
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MtnCreek said:
If you believe half the things the us gov says or anything the chicom gov says you shouldn't breed.
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The Chinese are saying they are turning the corner but only because they locked the joint down. Right, wrong, or a big fat lie who knows?

"A modelling team led by China’s top respiratory disease expert Zhong Nanshan has concluded that, if the rigorous measures China imposed to stop the spread of COVID-19 had been introduced just five days earlier, the epidemic would be around two-thirds smaller. "

Then there is this.


Apparently we are going to let it run its course until people scream uncle.
 
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phlegethon said:
Can you come up with any evidence for this or any other human disease being man made?

There are many Chinese graduate students and postdocs in American labs simply because they are more willing to work the long hours for little pay that such positions entail. It’s not a plot. Their educational system is better than ours on average (some of this is just due to the cultural values related to academic achievement).
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Oh and

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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I’m more inclined to believe the COVID19 virus is a result of China's wet food markets as explained in this video. Stating that “China stole the virus from Canada” may make for a good fictional movie but thats about it, its fictional.

 
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You are surrounded by cages full of every type of animal there is all breathing the same air, and then you cut up a chicken, and then a fish, and then a bat, and then a pig, and then a monkey all on the same blood slick piece of plywood, and very bad things are going to happen, period.

There is a Netflix documentary out about how bird-flu and SARS started and they were in these disgusting third world meat markets where hillbillies appear to still have no knowledge about germs of any sort. You couldn't create a better cross breading ground for cross-species, zoonotic beasties to jump.
 
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phlegethon said:
Can you come up with any evidence for this or any other human disease being man made?

There are many Chinese graduate students and postdocs in American labs simply because they are more willing to work the long hours for little pay that such positions entail. It’s not a plot. Their educational system is better than ours on average (some of this is just due to the cultural values related to academic achievement).
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I will agree their education system is more rigorous than ours in the Arts.

They require discipline and performance.

Ours do that as the student specializes but our "general education" is lacking and we don't expect any results or performance........showing up is all it takes in many cases.

Despite our educational failures what we do benefit from is our "opportunity" to make a buck and payments of high reward to those that will work.

This last promotes something that gets lost in translation to China.

All discipline and straight line thinking hampers the creative spirit in the general population.

We are doing our best to beat it out of our citizens, first dumb them real down, than make them dependent.
 
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Chinese students and their education system produces people that are very good at memorizing and repeating.

But think about it, they have had a country of sorts for many thousands of years.

The USA like not even 400 depending on how you count.

Who has to try to sneak technology from who?
 
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Gar. said:
I’m more inclined to believe the COVID19 virus is a result of China's wet food markets as explained in this video. Stating that “China stole the virus from Canada” may make for a good fictional movie but thats about it, its fictional.
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Ohh really? Because that is exactly what happened last summer. https://nationalpost.com/health/bio...hy-canada-was-sending-lethal-viruses-to-china

""Last month, an acclaimed NML scientist — Xiangguo Qiu — was reportedly escorted out of the lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team. The agency said it was investigating an “administrative issue,” and had referred a possible policy breach to the RCMP. ""

Translation: Polite way of saying we caught these fuckers shipping virues back to the Chineese Govt's Bio-Warfare Lab. Also, there are other less PC articles that explained that they intercepted packages containing several viruses, including Covid-19 and were addressed to the bio-warfare lab in china. Not only were they excorted out of the lab. They were excorted to the airport and summarily kicked out of the country.

However, I am having a hard time locating those articles now so I suspect they are spot on and been scrubbed from the web. Just like the video of Hillary when she turned back and said "if Trump gets elected we'll all swing from ropes" then turns forward again and continues walking. Its no longer on the web. Scrubbed by the powers that own the web. I saw it exactly once and wasnt smart enough to copy it.

Anyone got a copy of that video btw?
 
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What? Every day I get up it's

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Hard.
 
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Here we go.

www.nbcnewyork.com

NJ Announces 1st COVID-19 Death; NY Deploys National Guard to New Rochelle

UPDATE: Cuomo Says Fed COVID-19 Response May Be ‘Public Health Version of Hurricane Katrina’ New Jersey reported its first COVID-19-related death — a 69-year-old man from Bergen County — as New York unveiled the most stringent measures seen in the U.S. so far to combat the surge in coronavirus...
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What was that steven Segal movie?
 
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Gar. said:
I’m more inclined to believe the COVID19 virus is a result of China's wet food markets as explained in this video. Stating that “China stole the virus from Canada” may make for a good fictional movie but thats about it, its fictional.

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They have been eating "wet" food since the beginning of human time.

We should see historical evidence of corona viruses wiping out China ever few hundred years if this came from bats.
 
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Longshot231 said:
Get ready for the refrain; “ the virus is spreading so we will have to ban guns.”
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And that should be the final line in the sand for every gun owner in this country. No more New Orleans, ever again. Not a single inch. If ANY jurisdiction decides to use the epidemic as a green light to push gun confiscation, then we need to hit back immediately and hit the source of the irritation hard and show the world just what happens when you stick a metal fork in an electrical outlet...

Historical plagues are almost always associated with military conflict as a result of the social upheaval. The attempted unseating of the royal crown of France by the Plantagenets in the form of Edward's invasion in 1347, and the toppling of the Mongol Yuan Dynasty in China by a peasant soldier who will begin the era of the Ming around the same time are just more well known examples. The leftists in this country will be the ones who provide the spark of their own cataclysm if this should happen. Fuck them. I hope they get froggy and we respond with decisive effect. There are millions of people around the world currently living under shit governments and they need some inspiration from us to do what they need to do as well.
 
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Snuby642 said:
Here we go.

www.nbcnewyork.com

NJ Announces 1st COVID-19 Death; NY Deploys National Guard to New Rochelle

UPDATE: Cuomo Says Fed COVID-19 Response May Be ‘Public Health Version of Hurricane Katrina’ New Jersey reported its first COVID-19-related death — a 69-year-old man from Bergen County — as New York unveiled the most stringent measures seen in the U.S. so far to combat the surge in coronavirus...
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What was that steven Segal movie?
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Talking to a buddy just outside the "containment zone" in New Rochelle - he had no clue it was happening until I texted him from across the country.

Another buddy in upstate tells me the cidiots are on exodus to their neck of the woods and have bought out nearly everything at the local markets and stores.

People's panic buttons are going to fuck this shit up more than the actual bug.
 
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HiDesertELR said:
Talking to a buddy just outside the "containment zone" in New Rochelle - he had no clue it was happening until I texted him from across the country.

Another buddy in upstate tells me the cidiots are on exodus to their neck of the woods and have bought out nearly everything at the local markets and stores.

People's panic buttons are going to fuck this shit up more than the actual bug.
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Social cytokine storm, basically...

That is why my "preparations" for this thing so far is more aligned with dealing with a regular Mel Gibson's The Patriot type classic boogaloo than N95 related shenanigans, though I do have a shit ton of these since my line of work involves the use of them on a pretty big scale...
 
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OldSalty said:
Can you come up with any evidence that covid-19 mutated from a "wet meat market"?
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This is a pretty good intro to what is known about the evolution of this strain. Note that viruses have been crossing over between species forever, and on the other hand there has never been any documented case of disease from any man made virus.

www.nature.com

The species Severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus: classifying 2019-nCoV and naming it SARS-CoV-2 - Nature Microbiology

The present outbreak of a coronavirus-associated acute respiratory disease called coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19) is the third documented spillover of an animal coronavirus to humans in only two decades that has resulted in a major epidemic. The Coronaviridae Study Group (CSG) of the...
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MA declaring state of emergency.

Define for me "presumptive" positive cases in medical terms.

My belief is that would mean no test was given but the symptoms lead one to presume an outcome.

So far I understand MA has one positive, a student that returned from Wuhan and is no healed, and some 3 dozen "presumptive" positive cases.

Everyone wants a taste of that $8.5 billion.
 
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pmclaine said:
Define for me "presumptive" positive cases in medical terms.

My belief is that would mean no test was given but the symptoms lead one to presume an outcome.
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Presumptive positive means a test in a hospital was positive, but it hasn’t been confirmed by repeat testing at the CDC. It means they almost certainly have it. Local testing may actually be more reliable than the CDC.
 
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Holy shit NY containment zone for the well to do ethnic group.
They get testing, NG to clean up and probably keep poors out.

What a frigging abusive sham by that sorry ass governor.
 
#1,190
Well ain't it funny gar limits his identity and info?

Have any of you watched the news on the NYC suburb they have "locked down" and read between the lines?

100? Infected but the containment area people can come and go as they please?
While others around the country get military tents and armed gaurds to keep them "safe" in.

Those folks get gaurds to keep you out but get to spread the love as they please?

Rampant / blatant abuse of power for a select few.
 
#1,193
Snuby642 said:
A little perspective.

When I was a young man at 40, the flu was a 2 day sniffle.

When I was older at 50 I was throwing up with fever but not willing to waste a sick day that could be used for fishing or hunting.

Last year at 60 cought the flue from grandkids . Was bed sick for a couple of days and bad off for a week.

I'm sure a lot of 80 year olds will die.
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Frankly, the argument about old people, those with high blood pressure, diabete, underlying health conditions; is just another way to blame their death on the people who caught the virus, and not the virus. Sick of the political bullshit.
 
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It’s funny how this thread started out with complete hysteria about Wuhan, the people dropping dead in the street, the crematoriums running 24/7, and now that the virus is out and doing the same thing in other parts of the world, we’ve switched to total denial.
 
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Hopefully we can pull together and show the world how freedom loving Americans support one another. If the virus gets worse, lets get better as a people and help one another when where we can. ???
 
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