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The OFFICIAL 'Wuhan' Coronavirus outbreak information and tracking thread. NARRATIVE CHANGE. "Endemic, just like the cold". Cuomo regrets lockdown.
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Here's a riddle:
Who do you trust more for accurate information? The Chinese government, or the American Media?
One pushes lies in order to further the communist agenda of their one political party.... The other oppresses 6 billion Chinese people.
People are assholes. Latest story: Two pieces of shit knew they had direct contact with someone with the virus flew from Indiana to Maui (infecting who knows how many at the airport and on the plane). Arrived in Maui. First person got sick and went to urgent care for treatment but left out the part about them having contact with an infected person. Second person got sick and went to urgent care the next day. Declined to say anything. They got on another plane and went to Kauai. First person went to urgent care on Kauai and STILL didn't say anything. Finally, after the antibiotics didn't work (no shit!), they went back to urgent care and admitted they had contact with someone who had the virus. So they knew they were exposed and chose to infect God knows how many people, including 3 medical staff that now have to be isolated for 2+ weeks. Should throw their asses in jail, but I know nothing is going to happen.
The takeaway is people are fucking selfish assholes and because of that, get ready for the number of cases to accelerate followed by more restrictive mandatory quarantines.
The takeaway is people are fucking selfish assholes and because of that, get ready for the number of cases to accelerate followed by more restrictive mandatory quarantines.
From a local hospital:
So basically, if you’re sick with mild symptoms, like 80% of the China virus infected people will have, stay home and get over it. So that means the number of officially infected people remains low, and the death rate stays high. In the meantime people are acting like its WW3. Like many of us are starting to realize, this China flu is being blown way out of proportion.
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So basically, if you’re sick with mild symptoms, like 80% of the China virus infected people will have, stay home and get over it. So that means the number of officially infected people remains low, and the death rate stays high. In the meantime people are acting like its WW3. Like many of us are starting to realize, this China flu is being blown way out of proportion.
The whole state.
Wow.
pittsburgh.cbslocal.com
Wow.
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine Orders All Bars And Restaurants To Close
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine is issuing an order to close all in-person dining at all restaurants in the state.
pittsburgh.cbslocal.com
Same in IllinoisThe whole state.
Wow.
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine Orders All Bars And Restaurants To Close
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine is issuing an order to close all in-person dining at all restaurants in the state.
My 7 yo daughter has spine surgery scheduled for Thursday. I don't know what to think at this point. Wife is freaking out. This sucks
The whole state.
Wow.
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine Orders All Bars And Restaurants To Close
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine is issuing an order to close all in-person dining at all restaurants in the state.
That's insane.
What about when the flu knocking people down left and right?
But, coronavirus.
I've listened to the President's Press Conferences. He know's he is fighting a war. The enemy has employed Bio Warfare, attempted to crash the US Financial system using oil as a weapon and bombarded America with propaganda like has never been seen before. Panic has Americans spending more now than they spent at Christmas time.... Why? For sure the virus will spread. The strategy is to "lower the curve" so it does not spike up and over load the health care providers. Smart move. I remember the gasoline shortage in the 70's. Long lines, rationing and short tempers. I've seen rationing after Hurricanes in Louisiana. Again, long lines and short tempers... That is what American's need to avoid. Give the Walmart's time to restock and sanitize their stores. I doubt if there is one member or lurker here who would starve to death in the next 30 days.. So, as was asked.. Calm down, follow good hygiene, do a lot of PRAYING, take care of the old people and those with disabilities and we will come out on the other side. Figure out who the enemy of the USA is and focus your anger and frustration towards them.
Hang in there.
Hobo
Hang in there.
Hobo
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same but different, son needs a infusion on thursday.
waiting by phone and trying to keep myself clean so i dont give him anything
talking with the wife today, and all in all this might be a "good" thing
we are getting a trial run with a bio weapon/ virus on a massive scale
make mistakes and learn from this, then when its a higher mortality rate next time
There are thousands of American's in this situation, including me. I understand your concern. Gather as much good info as you can, pray about it (and ask the rest of us to pray about it)... At some point in the future each of us is going to have to trust our own gut instinct. You have to do what is right for you and your family.
Hobo
That vast vast vaaaaaast majority of Americans will survive this. Like...greater than 99% of people who contract this thing.
Factors to consider:
Remember the "death rate" is solely based on people that:
1. Contract this plague
2. Have symptoms serious enough to be hospitalized (usually a bad sign for any sickness in general)
3. Test positive
4. Kick the bucket.
The majority who gets this will likely not even have symptoms strong enough to seek medical attention and testing.
That's what skews the numbers toward a higher mortality rate than the flu.
Additionally, I've never seen or have firsthand knowledge of anyone actually being "tested" for the actual influenza virus. Diagnosis is generally presumptive based on symptoms in most cases. If hospitalized, yes, testing is done.
There's probably way more cases of COVID-19 than we actually know about. But by under-reporting it, it's lessens the panic and is a way of trying to hide the fact they weren't prepared.
At this point, it's principally an economic disaster, what with the markets and all that. Likely we are looking at another HUGE decline in the stock market tomorrow morning, maybe the worst day yet. But the world is full of money and all that will bounce back. Hopefully your sick kids will come through fine, they are more resilliant than their parents, that's really what is important. Maybe that's the lesson here, to remember what really counts. Ya'll have a good week.
I follow your reasoning. I too have asked that same question, in the beginning. Now that things are starting to unfold, what other other civilized Country has done a better job of handling this Pandemic?
Hobo
Poor guy is fucked either way. Either he shuts down and then gets blamed for the economy tanking or doesn't shut down and gets blamed for cases skyrocketing because he didn't. Media heyday no matter how the cookie crumbles. Goddamn they hate his ass.
Uh, Trump's time to shine was when this was becoming huge in China and everyone knew it would 100% go global. Too late.
She's a tricky one..
www.seattletimes.com
"The physician, who is in his 40s, has been admitted to the intensive-care unit and could be the first front-line health care worker in the state to test positive for the disease"
"the physician had used personal protective equipment and was compliant with all protective policies and procedures in place at the hospital. "
EvergreenHealth doctor tests positive for coronavirus, in critical condition
An emergency room doctor at EvergreenHealth in Kirkland is in critical condition with COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus. The hospital at the center of the coronavirus outbreak in King County confirmed that the doctor was ill Sunday afternoon....
www.seattletimes.com
"The physician, who is in his 40s, has been admitted to the intensive-care unit and could be the first front-line health care worker in the state to test positive for the disease"
"the physician had used personal protective equipment and was compliant with all protective policies and procedures in place at the hospital. "
It's at my Publixes... Publices... Stores too. But I'm pretty sure that's just an hour or two's difference. Doesn't bother me none.
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Just got back to Canada after a 5 day trip to Mexico. I guess I'm supposed to self quarantine myself for 14 days ?...
My plan was to activate my green card on April 4th, but now I'm wondering if I'm going to be able to travel down to the US, be interesting to see if they close down the borders and air travel. I have to activate it before June 2nd or my green card is no longer valid.
It definitely worries me, but I feel way worse for those that have kids waiting procedures and elderly that are much more at risk of this.
I hope this blows over.
My plan was to activate my green card on April 4th, but now I'm wondering if I'm going to be able to travel down to the US, be interesting to see if they close down the borders and air travel. I have to activate it before June 2nd or my green card is no longer valid.
It definitely worries me, but I feel way worse for those that have kids waiting procedures and elderly that are much more at risk of this.
I hope this blows over.
Like the grocery stores were allready stripped. Now people that can't cook, or don't know how are tossed in the mix.
A tv dinner will be the next currency.
Also I live within 200 ft of 2 different churches. Not one car in the lot today.
A tv dinner will be the next currency.
Also I live within 200 ft of 2 different churches. Not one car in the lot today.
LOL.... Each of the 51 Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) laboratories is to test 10 such samples every week. No test = No virus
NEW DELHI: With Covid-19 cases increasing, India’s apex medical body is intensifying the random sampling of people who display flu-like symptoms but don’t have any history of travel to outbreak zones to determine whether community transmission is taking place.
Each of the 51 Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) laboratories is to test 10 such samples every week. The exercise began on March 15. Before this, the ICMR had picked up 20 samples and tested them at 13 labs to check for co ..
Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
South Korea’s testing kits were developed and mass produced by a private company. Our own government is what’s stopping our testing; private kits aren’t getting approval and the CDChas been utterly useless. The best thing our government could do is shut up and get out of the way of the free market.
Well lets see here.
The center for disease CONTROL.
As in CONTROL is of upmost concern.
Lots of CONTROL issues is why a lot of things don't work properly.
Assuming CONTROL is a primary funtion of some folks day.
Things change quickly in shtf reality.
I figure private tests for people with enough money to be available asap.
Treatment will be private and no controll followed.
The center for disease CONTROL.
As in CONTROL is of upmost concern.
Lots of CONTROL issues is why a lot of things don't work properly.
Assuming CONTROL is a primary funtion of some folks day.
Things change quickly in shtf reality.
I figure private tests for people with enough money to be available asap.
Treatment will be private and no controll followed.
Well said, that's why we expect the actual situation is way worse than the media reports. We really need to get testing kits out there. So we are more informed.
Even jihad is suspended 
The Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh) has issued a travel warning to its fighters this past week, urging them to avoid countries that have coronavirus outbreaks.
The terrorist group has advised supporters to stay away from "the land of the epidemic", and instead has offered tips for them to follow like washing their hands frequently and "cover the mouth when yawning and sneezing".
In the group's latest al-Naba newsletter, instead of urging members to attack European cities, ISIS advises the healthy to not enter coronavirus-stricken areas in case they become infected, and "the afflicted should not exit from it”...
The newsletter refers to a “plague” described as a “torment sent by God on whomsoever He wills”
The newsletter included various Hadiths on how to deal with illness: “On the authority of Abu Huraira... the messenger said: “And flee from the one afflicted with leprosy as you flee from the lion.”
Some of the Hadiths mentioned ways to deal with the illness like placing your hand on your mouth when sneezing: “On the authority of Abu Huraira... he said: the Messenger of God would place his hand or clothing on his mouth when he sneezed, and in this way reduced or diminished his voice.”
The Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS/Daesh) has issued a travel warning to its fighters this past week, urging them to avoid countries that have coronavirus outbreaks.
The terrorist group has advised supporters to stay away from "the land of the epidemic", and instead has offered tips for them to follow like washing their hands frequently and "cover the mouth when yawning and sneezing".
In the group's latest al-Naba newsletter, instead of urging members to attack European cities, ISIS advises the healthy to not enter coronavirus-stricken areas in case they become infected, and "the afflicted should not exit from it”...
The newsletter refers to a “plague” described as a “torment sent by God on whomsoever He wills”
The newsletter included various Hadiths on how to deal with illness: “On the authority of Abu Huraira... the messenger said: “And flee from the one afflicted with leprosy as you flee from the lion.”
Some of the Hadiths mentioned ways to deal with the illness like placing your hand on your mouth when sneezing: “On the authority of Abu Huraira... he said: the Messenger of God would place his hand or clothing on his mouth when he sneezed, and in this way reduced or diminished his voice.”
If these folks had no corona before the screening ,they sure do have it now after they walked out of the screening.
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BREAKING: Doctors in France and elsewhere are issuing warnings to use paracetamol, AKA acetaminophen/Tylenol instead of ibuprofen in case you develop a fever from COVID-19. Research is indicating that ibuprofen or steroidal OTC fever reducers may inhibit the body's immune response to the infection, and you want to have as much of an unimpeded immune response as possible to minimize viral spread into the lungs.
STOCK UP on acetaminophen if you have not already. The shelves in my local pharmacies and groceries are still well stocked with them even yesterday, as TP, Bounty rolls and bottled water seem to still be the targets of mass retardation around here.
amp.theguardian.com
STOCK UP on acetaminophen if you have not already. The shelves in my local pharmacies and groceries are still well stocked with them even yesterday, as TP, Bounty rolls and bottled water seem to still be the targets of mass retardation around here.
Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian
French minister says patients should take paracetamol rather than ibuprofen or cortisone
amp.theguardian.com
Interesting point. It’s in guidelines here that ibuprofen shouldn’t be used with chicken pox either. I suspect that higher dose salicylates should be avoided as well.
Chinese super-corporation Alibaba's helmsman and CEO Jack Ma donates 1 million N95 face masks and 500,000 COVID-19 testing kits to the United States...
nypost.com
Alibaba billionaire Jack Ma donates million masks, 500K coronavirus testing kits to US
He later wrote that 1.8 million masks and 100,000 testing kits would be sent to Europe.
nypost.com
If you had any doubt that the Zompoc has arrived, this should convince you.
Chinese super-corporation Alibaba's helmsman and CEO Jack Ma donates 1 million N95 face masks and 500,000 COVID-19 testing kits to the United States...
Alibaba billionaire Jack Ma donates million masks, 500K coronavirus testing kits to US
He later wrote that 1.8 million masks and 100,000 testing kits would be sent to Europe.
Reminds me of when the US government provided blankets to Native Americans.
Thought came to my mind as well... However the US is not a primitive steppe culture in the face of repeating rifles and railroads... 90% of Alibaba's income and over 70% of the Chicoms' national income comes from US markets. They can get their shit pushed in real easily without the US even having to fire an actual shot in anger if they are up to any funny business.
In response to Jack Ma Id like to send him back reams of plans showing US corporations severing fragile ties with the Chinese supply line and intending to rebuild domestic manufacturing plants.
If this isnt seen as a shock to our strategic health than the die has been cast the US is not intended to remain a sovereign entity.
You are probably the first person on the hide to claim first hand experience.
I wish your friend a quick recovery.
Please keep us updated on what his actual experience is........just type with gloves on and wear a mask when doing so please.
BREAKING: Doctors in France and elsewhere are issuing warnings to use paracetamol, AKA acetaminophen/Tylenol instead of ibuprofen in case you develop a fever from COVID-19. Research is indicating that ibuprofen or steroidal OTC fever reducers may inhibit the body's immune response to the infection, and you want to have as much of an unimpeded immune response as possible to minimize viral spread into the lungs.
STOCK UP on acetaminophen if you have not already. The shelves in my local pharmacies and groceries are still well stocked with them even yesterday, as TP, Bounty rolls and bottled water seem to still be the targets of mass retardation around here.
Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian
French minister says patients should take paracetamol rather than ibuprofen or cortisone
best part is that almost all the APAP (tylenol raw material) comes from where....china then india
china material is much higher in quality in general
they both test out finished good wise but packaging issues etc are much higher with material from india
unless the boats stop delivering there will never be a shortage of APAP due to production, its DC (directly compressible, if your internal processes allow FDA compliance)
everyone who can make OTC products has equipment in storage that can run that product...its like the gateway drug to OTC manufacturing
Seriously Id like to hear from someone normal, assuming you are normal - too funny.....what this is all about.
I seriously hope your friends experience does not justify the crazy measures we have taken.
I have my hunches and Im looking for some affirmation.
Give my life validation!
The world is sorting through it's "Priority List"... A good thing. Major efforts to physically bring families together all over the world. Getting down to basics.
Looks like human trials for a vaccine are starting in WA today. Still 1 to 1.5 years out for any "approved" vaccine.
My guess is the calls to fast-track will be strong, very very strong.
Oh, and china mentioned as helping with the effort. Pretty cool of them IYAM...
www.foxnews.com
My guess is the calls to fast-track will be strong, very very strong.
Oh, and china mentioned as helping with the effort. Pretty cool of them IYAM...
Coronavirus: Biotech company ships first batches of vaccine, to be tested on humans: report
Containment measures are being implemented in the U.S. and throughout the globe to limit the spread of coronavirus, but only a vaccine can prevent people from getting sick from the virus.
www.foxnews.com
For better information: stay up to date on CDC announcements and particularly pay attention to the head of the US Public Health Service, and also the advisor to SIX administrations: Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health.
Ignore bat-crap crazy conspiracy theories.
Ignore bat-crap crazy conspiracy theories.
I worry that there is a panic and Marshall law is imposed.
Some states do not protect 2a rights under that scenario.
Luckily I live in one that does and the liberals can just suck it and cry.
Have seen many liberals at the gun stores and ranges for a month or more.
Easy to spot and a danger to all if they skip training classes that are full.
Hopefully some convert to protect 2a.
Some states do not protect 2a rights under that scenario.
Luckily I live in one that does and the liberals can just suck it and cry.
Have seen many liberals at the gun stores and ranges for a month or more.
Easy to spot and a danger to all if they skip training classes that are full.
Hopefully some convert to protect 2a.
Around here a lot of the churches are starting to not have meetings any more.
A pretty good idea if you are actually worried about the virus.
name one fucking politician that u would want in charge right now.... i'm waiting.................... i'll take Trump at the helm
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