You know, there are a lot of people in the US that watch CNN and believe the election was not stolen.
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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Quite the contrary, makes perfect sense. Especially when you are not fed to the MSM bullshit.
It is the kings that are clashing not the over all people.
Deep state US/UK/EU(King of the South) and whatever you want to call leadership in Russia (King of the North). The current Kings were not always the same. For instance a previous King in Russia was the Czar.
The people just want to live their lives, survive, maybe even prosper. Any perverse bullshit on either side of people is just what the kings men have programmed them with over generations. It’s important to remember.
Deep state US/UK/EU(King of the South) and whatever you want to call leadership in Russia (King of the North). The current Kings were not always the same. For instance a previous King in Russia was the Czar.
The people just want to live their lives, survive, maybe even prosper. Any perverse bullshit on either side of people is just what the kings men have programmed them with over generations. It’s important to remember.
From AR15.com but one of the easiest explanations why sanctions have not really effected russia:
| Your first mistake was believing the propaganda about the Russian economy. It's nominal GDP is ridiculously small because that's measured in American dollars and Russia has been cutoff from the American financial system. In terms of GDP PPP, which attempts to measure actual economic value, Russia is roughly on par with Japan or Germany - except it also has more people, vastly more national resources, and a much larger military industrial complex, so it's money goes even further in things that matter for warfare. They aren't in the same league as the US or China, but they have more industrial might to throw around than anyone else. |
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sadly, i think they want putin to go grozny on them. reckless!
The most terrifying part about all of this, is if Ukraine gets desperate enough, they can certainly drag the rest of us into a direct war with Russia.
And with Ukraine running out of people, this seems like a real possibility.
There is no need for programming to happen when you get to see the difference between Russia and the rest of Europe with your own eyes.
If I lived an ocean away from these events then perhaps I too would hesitate to accept reality because my only connection to whats going on would be CNN or some basement dweller wannabe intellectual who post quotes from bullshit russian pulp mysticism like its the gospel.
I don't get CNN where I live, I get to talk to people who has fled Russia because it's an actual for real violent authoritarian regime, and Ukrainians who fled Ukraine because the Russian elite is bombing their neighbourhoods and letting their conscripts pillage and rape in the occupied terrotories.
The programming can only be done to people who are distanced from the actual events and easily confused.
Here we are, Russia and Iran attacking Europe and Israel in a concerted fashion, and what is discussed in America? Some row about the border that your president should be able to manage with the stroke of a pen, but he won't because of the short sighted self serving mania of his party. I really hope the west pulls itself together.
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What is so great in the EU you don't have in Russia, could you please elaborate ?
I do not imply Russia is perfect, because of course that do no exist; no nations are, but if Ukraine is so great as a nation, why they have such difficulties drafting men ? It always been apparent to me that when your home country is attacked, you won't have issues finding candidates to fight and die for it.
Actually, our border is more important than Ukraine or Israel. How about the EU get its shit together and start footing the bill for Ukraine if it is that important to you. Most Americans really don’t care about Ukraine. Not our problem. Seriously, nobody really gives a shit beyond the fact that our money and not very much of the EU’s is going to corrupt politicians in a far away, irrelevant backwater country. Ukraine can fall today and very few people here will be heartbroken.
It is nothing new as well. Ukraine has been corrupt for a VERY long time. When you look at two countries historically in the same neck of the woods, Ukraine and Poland, the differences between the two are very easy to see. Going back into the 1920's when the map was re drawn after WWI, the two people went about things very differently.
Churches shut down, journalist imprisoned, elections suspended, snatching people off the street to be conscripted , state run media ( pravda) and shit tons of corruption in the political arena sounds just like Ukraine.
In my travels, I found the Ukes worst that the Russians in many ways. I think their gov took a block of instruction from the US on how to fuck over their people while making them like it.
An Ac-Tor was elected here & most sheep thought he was better than sliced bread, when in reality he fucked us but they kept it hide for years. The Ukes elected a comedian for president, who is still the laughing stock of this rock, albeit way behind ours.
it is odd that they want to recruit another 500k soldiers but claim they only lost 30k.
Ukraine has obviously lost hundreds of thousands.
Amputation levels in Ukraine haven't been seen since WW1.
And currently the average age of a Ukrainian soldier is 50+. They are running out of people.
US estimated a year ago for Ukraine more than twice that killed (70k) and 100-120k casualties wounded in addition. It's sure to be much more now, a year later.
Not knowing and not looking means you know and on some level you are good with it.
They've lost a lot as well.
But Russia has a lot more people. It has its own military manufacturing base, which is only growing. They are currently producing 3 times the amount of artillery shells as the west is. And they aren't reliant on handouts, unlike Ukraine.
Russia Now Looks To Be Using Wire-Guided Kamikaze Drones In Ukraine
A drone with a wired control link would be immune to jamming, among other advantages, but this configuration could also present limitations.
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I have been waiting for this. Jaycar/Radioshack EFOGM......and I kinda dig it.
Well that's one way to make sure the Nazis exterminate themselves.
Then they will come for the women and force them to exterminate themselves
Then Z will import the rape gangs of "cultural enrichers" just like in Sweden, to ensure whatever women are left alive are bred by africans and muslims and the Global Elites will laugh in their triumph.
don't believe this wasn't the reason the west wanted this war.
European States’ Calls For Sending Ground Force to Ukraine Rapidly Gain Momentum: Russia Issues Warnings
European States’ Calls For Sending Ground Force to Ukraine Rapidly Gain Momentum: Russia Issues Warnings
Political leaders in Western countries have from mid-February increasingly raised the possibility of an overt military intervention in the Russian-Ukrainian War through
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^^^ Kickoff to WWIII^^^
FAFO and poke the bear one too many times IMHO
FAFO and poke the bear one too many times IMHO
‘Weimar Triangle’ Looks to Global Market for Arms-Depleted Ukraine
"With Europe’s arsenals running low, Scholz said they would “procure even more weapons—on the entire global market,” paid for by windfall profits on frozen Russian assets. In addition, the trio is looking for expanded production of military equipment, including on Ukrainian soil.
The defense ministers of the three EU countries will discuss specific details next Monday. “We stand closely and unwaveringly by Ukraine’s side. That means: as long as it takes,” Scholz continued, emphasizing it was “also clear that we are not at war with Russia.”
"With Europe’s arsenals running low, Scholz said they would “procure even more weapons—on the entire global market,” paid for by windfall profits on frozen Russian assets. In addition, the trio is looking for expanded production of military equipment, including on Ukrainian soil.
The defense ministers of the three EU countries will discuss specific details next Monday. “We stand closely and unwaveringly by Ukraine’s side. That means: as long as it takes,” Scholz continued, emphasizing it was “also clear that we are not at war with Russia.”
Translation: "We are not at war with Russia, but are doing everything we can to convince everyone we are at war with Russia."
And stupid people will nod their head that this makes sense.
German Lawmaker In Blistering Ukraine Speech To Parliament: "Have You All Lost Your Minds?" | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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That would be just the ticket, Ukrainans auditing Pentagon 
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Martyrmade is a great follow.
Has great commentary and insights on these conflicts. His podcast series "Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem" is excellent for those wanting an education on the Israel/Palestine conflict.
Naryshkin: France is preparing to send 2 thousand troops to Ukraine
"France is preparing to send its military contingent to Ukraine, the number of which will initially amount to about 2000 people. This was stated by the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, noting the indifference of the current French leadership to losses among French citizens and the fears of the military generals regarding the possibility of a successful transfer and deployment of troops on Ukrainian territory. Naryshkin pointed to alarm among the French armed forces over the increasing death toll of French citizens in Ukraine, particularly in the Kharkov area, where a missile attack killed dozens of Frenchmen.
According to Naryshkin, French President Emmanuel Macron is trying to hide the true scale of French participation and losses in Ukraine amid internal protests, but the situation has reached such a level that the truth will soon have to be made public. The French military leadership is expressing concern about losses among “retirees and vacationers,” which calls into question the possibility of finding volunteers to be sent to Ukraine and replace the losses."
"France is preparing to send its military contingent to Ukraine, the number of which will initially amount to about 2000 people. This was stated by the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service, Sergei Naryshkin, noting the indifference of the current French leadership to losses among French citizens and the fears of the military generals regarding the possibility of a successful transfer and deployment of troops on Ukrainian territory. Naryshkin pointed to alarm among the French armed forces over the increasing death toll of French citizens in Ukraine, particularly in the Kharkov area, where a missile attack killed dozens of Frenchmen.
According to Naryshkin, French President Emmanuel Macron is trying to hide the true scale of French participation and losses in Ukraine amid internal protests, but the situation has reached such a level that the truth will soon have to be made public. The French military leadership is expressing concern about losses among “retirees and vacationers,” which calls into question the possibility of finding volunteers to be sent to Ukraine and replace the losses."
Is Air America going to be back in business soon? Yeah, I know it's a stupid question but I had to ask.
www.ainonline.com
Security Concerns Cloud Possible Ukrainian Airspace Reopening | AIN
The Ukrainian government is looking to the example of Israel as it seeks to reopen its airspace, but security experts have concerns about that plan.
www.ainonline.com
There is no way any insurance company is going to cover commercial flights into or over Ukrainian air space.Is Air America going to be back in business soon? Yeah, I know it's a stupid question but I had to ask.
Security Concerns Cloud Possible Ukrainian Airspace Reopening | AIN
The Ukrainian government is looking to the example of Israel as it seeks to reopen its airspace, but security experts have concerns about that plan.
Imagine how long commercial air would fly before someone accidentally shot down an airliner , days not weeks.
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