Re: This assault weapons ban CANNOT pass!
Not so fast. You're not some innocent, confused victim here, "Guy"
And let's even forget about what may or may not have happened to me. at least to begin with.
We have rules here about personal attacks. We are obliged to read and acknpowledge them on our enrollment, and to occasionally repeat that process thereafter.
Some might interpret them as a threat, and they are, that personal attacks will not be tolerated. But I also interpret them as a promise to the rest of us, that we will not be subjected to personal attacks without recourse.
New members probably read them and believe what they say, that The 'Hide will be a safe sanctuary on the Internet, where they will be at least partly safe from personal attacks and otherwise usual bickering troll BS. Sycophants indeed. I have few friends here, and fewer 'sycophants' here, and I neither want, nor call on them, for aid.
I have watched this troll "Guy" attack forum members Queequeg, and Maggot, just to name a recent two, on a personal level. You don't even need to look beyond this topic to find others whom this "Guy" has treated in a manner which is clearly prohibited under site rules.
Describing "Guy" as a Troll isn't namecalling, it's a simple statement which his own posts repeatedly support. He's cautious, he's coy, and he wears his air of innocence. But when the O/T hijack occurs, he's there. When the nagging provocation is happening, he's there. When resentment is smoldering he's there tossing on the gasoline. When the flames rise up, he's fanning them. Always there with the sarcastic dig, the arrogant insult. He almost never starts a topic, except when he wants to sell something or trash our Government. He pretty much never joins a topic, except to push the negative.
That's a troll. It's not a literary antihero named Guy Montag, or a movie characater depicted as Dr. Strangelove.
Negativity is his most common contributions to The 'Hide, and I think we do better without it.
When this happened, nothing was done. The promise was not kept. He got the message, and others took a similar cue.
When he got around to me again, I dispensed with the prelimiaries and just threw the BS flag.
That's not 'jumping ugly'. That's pointing out the issue and expressing displeasure that the situation, which we forum members are both threatened and promised is not supposed to exist, does indeed exist.
As I said, read his posting record, make up your own minds. I see an agenda. I think it's easy to see.
If you think it will help, read mine, too. See how this is all my doing.
Whether those with authority choose to act or not is not something I either expect or propose. For my part, this stopped being personal almost immediately. It is about a site I cherish, forum members I respect and hope to help, and the free rein of trolls within their midst.
It's not about me. I've been to this situation before and no longer feel any great discomfort being here. Like discomfort, such positions can be old, if less pleasant, friends. When someone like myself has to step up and finger the issue, it's already gone rather far and deep. I think too far and deep.
Do or don't do as you choose. I'm doing, and not doing, as <span style="font-style: italic">I</span> choose.
But Trolls; they will not be something I accept, now or ever. When they are active, I plan to discuss it.
I believe we have a troll problem, and I'm watching see how it gets dealt with. I'd like to think I'm not alone in this.
I can't say if anything will be done, I can say it's not always happened when I think it should. Am I also alone in seeing this?
"Guy"; this s not your personal arena, where the more peaceable forum members may be stalked and slashed with impunity at your leisure.
I don't think you should be allowed to continue doing that. I'm not allowed to do anything about that anymore, and I'm glad I don't. When I was, folks like yourself were usually soon gone.
I'm also glad I don't have to. It wss neither simple nor enjoyable, needing to separate personal intentions from dutiful ones. I think those that do are quite good at it, mostly, but nobody's perfect.
Seen over a long perspective, such things come in waves, and periodically, there develops a tendency to back off the hammer.
That's when we end up with people here like you, "Guy"; wandering within our midst, taking their victims from time time, bearing a demeanor of "Who, me?" pseudo-innocence.
Once more, I'll say, "Enough". The other members of the forum, whom I'm pretty much always trying to help, have usually left me to stand alone. I'm more than familiar enough with that, and I can understand if they are just wishing to avoid being called sycophants.
Greg