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This definitely sucks. Submarine lost.

Agreed.

On 6 May 1945, the German submarine U-853 was sunk of the coast of Rhode Island. It's in shallow enough water for scuba diving.

Years later a diver exploring the wreck, brought up the skeletal remains of one of her sailors. He displayed it in ghoulish fashion around the local area.
That's seriously fucked up. I wonder if sunken warships are considered war graves? I guess it depends on location, national vs international waters.
 
reminds me of the JFK jr flight crash incident.
If JFK Jr has taken a commercial flight + ferry, or drove in traffic + ferry to Martha's Vineyard like EVERYONE else, it would have saved tax payers a shit ton of money. But no, he had to fly his own plane, against FAA's recommendations in conditions way above his pay grade into dusk, and crashed.

Got the US Navy, Coast Guard, warships and search planes all involved in his search and rescue. So who pays? Tax payers
Only idiots that don't know that operational money is appropriated BEFORE SAR ops happen would say stupid shit like this

You also don't know shit from shinola about aviation.
 
Only idiots that don't know that operational money is appropriated BEFORE SAR ops happen would say stupid shit like this

You also don't know shit from shinola about aviation.
I didnt know what Shinola was. Without Googling it, can you explain what it looks like?

Its shoe polish, not even made anymore, so most of us wouldnt know shit from Shinola, because 90% of us dont even know what Shinola is!
 
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I didnt know what Shinola was. Without Googling it, can you explain what it looks like?

Its shoe polish, not even made anymore, so most of us wouldnt know shit from Shinola, because 90% of us dont even know what Shinola is!
I grew up with the phrase "he doesn't know shit from Shinola."

As an adult, I decided to be a smartass. So, I asked a friend, "Shit and Shinola - what's the difference?"

He said, "Well, one is a shoe polish."

Which I knew, I just wanted to be a smartass and he was stealing my thunder as only a friend can do.
 
That's seriously fucked up. I wonder if sunken warships are considered war graves? I guess it depends on location, national vs international waters.

Yes they are considered war graves and protected by international law.
Pre-atomic age steel is a hot commodity, and it's hard to keep watch on remote sites:

There was another vid where they took survivors and relatives out to visit/honor a wargrave only to find that it had been stripped in its entirety.

This one:
 
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my father was on the huston. survived as a POW until rescue in early '45. it's ships bell was recovered and is still on display in a museum in huston,as far as i know.
The US navy paid a steep learning curve in blood during WW2 in the pacific with ships in combat .....captains ,ships ,training ,weapons ,tactics were terrible ....worse at night .
 
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yea. my thought has always been that roosevelt had them committed in a way that they were "showing the flag" and aiding our allies (who the germans had already trashed) for political reasons to make our weakness look good. not real sure as i have a serious FDR hate. and,i do pretty much blame him along with churchill and stalin for finessing us into that war.
 
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Normally one would think that jokes about something like this would be in bad taste. But with all of the condescending arrogance, and total stupidity that was displayed, and that surrounded this whole thing, it's really hard to find sympathy for any of those idiots.

Especially that "kid". He supposedly didn't want to go. And only did so to "please" his father. I would have asked for the $250K, and told him to stick his submarine ride where the Sun never shines. If it's "pleasure" he was after, the kid could have bought him a nice hooker for less than 1% of that.
 
Normally one would think that jokes about something like this would be in bad taste. But with all of the condescending arrogance, and total stupidity that was displayed, and that surrounded this whole thing, it's really hard to find sympathy for any of those idiots.

Especially that "kid". He supposedly didn't want to go. And only did so to "please" his father. I would have asked for the $250K, and told him to stick his submarine ride where the Sun never shines. If it's "pleasure" he was after, the kid could have bought him a nice hooker for less than 1% of that.

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Normally one would think that jokes about something like this would be in bad taste. But with all of the condescending arrogance, and total stupidity that was displayed, and that surrounded this whole thing, it's really hard to find sympathy for any of those idiots.

Especially that "kid". He supposedly didn't want to go. And only did so to "please" his father. I would have asked for the $250K, and told him to stick his submarine ride where the Sun never shines. If it's "pleasure" he was after, the kid could have bought him a nice hooker for less than 1% of that.
Most kids [me included] would toss their granny off the dock to get a seat in that thing
 
This is probably the best case of not being able to have a single ounce of sympathy for that whole bunch, and what happened to them. The owner of that whole operation, was nothing but a smug, arrogant, self righteous prick.

The supposed "oceanographer" who went along, also knew James Cameron, who is considered to be an expert on these things. And who went to the bottom of the Marianas Trench in a sub he designed and built.

He was very vocal and critical of this POS, and told most everyone in the deep diving submersible community it was very DANGEROUS and UNSAFE the way it was constructed. And it should not be allowed to carry passengers.

About the only one I can and do feel sorry for, was the Indian kid of the wealthy father, who pushed him to go along. People said he was very scared. And only agreed to go along in order to please his arrogant, dipshit father who was pushing him.
 
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This is probably the best case of not being able to have a single ounce of sympathy for that whole bunch, and what happened to them. The owner of that whole operation, was nothing but a smug, arrogant, self righteous prick.

The supposed "oceanographer" who went along, also knew James Cameron, who is considered to be an expert on these things. And who went to the bottom of the Marianas Trench in a sub he designed and built.

He was very vocal and critical of this POS, and told most everyone in the deep diving submersible community it was very DANGEROUS and UNSAFE the way it was constructed. And it should not be allowed to carry passengers.

About the only one I can and do feel sorry for, was the Indian kid of the wealthy father, who pushed him to go along. People said he was very scared. And only agreed to go along in order to please his arrogant, dipshit father who was pushing him.
Yeah, the last thing to go through the kid's mind as the implosion was happening was his anus.
 
While on a cruise we took a submarine excursion in the Caribbean , i forget how deep but not very ...under 150 feet iirc and maybe 30 people i do remember thinking if there is an issue its gonna be ugly trying to get out .
Like Bill Cosby said, "Why does your mother tell you to put on clean underwear in case you are in an accident?

First, you say it. Then, you do it."