Agreed. I'm going with thermal. No fear of blooming, far superior to anything else, though far more expensive too!! Get what you pay for...)
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The company that I ordered from has been great. They seem to be as frustrated as I am.
I've been told multiple times that my order is "on its way."
I got a PM from TNVC stating that I could request a refund from them. No apology or explanation for the delay. No timeline on when they will be shipping products. Of course at this point, any timeline they offered would likely be a fabrication...
CWJ
Be patient, delay,s are everywhere right now. Vic at tnvc is the best and most know that.
Any chance of doing an FDE or hydrodipped unit like your PVS14 line?
Vic, what's the deal man? Last I heard the mount was the hold up but that was months ago. When are they going to be available?? Like a date to expect it, not in a month or so. If TNVC is making this product and has revealed it to everyone then they should know when they can sell it.....
Im not trying to be a jerk. I'm just a customer that wants a straight answer....
Vic is out of town so, I will field this.
The straight answer is…we are not ready to release it. We will not release it, until we believe it to be as perfect as we can get it. That process will not be rushed by Us, our Engineers, Customers or potential Customers. If we allowed that, we would be doing all of them a disservice. Consequently, we will not give you a date, until we know one. It was revealed and, it is being produced. However, we are torture testing and making modifications to things that we think need to be done. DAILY, something is being done with this product. While we think we are close, we never know what the next round of tests will reveal. The modifications, to this point, have been slight but, they have increased performance and accuracy. We will continue with them, until satisfied. If you have a critical need that has an associated timeline, we will be happy to provide you with some alternative choices. We do appreciate everyone’s patience, as we finalize an exciting and cost effective product.
Please dont take this the wrong way but your post is a complete contradiction of everything posted to date about the wasp not to mention coming off as unsympathetic and rude towards your customers. When it was originally posted/released on here by Vic, the production version was said to be the version at SHOT. Then the delays began which were attributed to the mount availability with no mention of items still in design or being tested. Now your post clearly describes quite a few changes in the product itself which indicates that you we not producing them for sale as previously stated. I hope it doesnt but I have a feeling that this post of yours is going to only upset your customers even more. Couple this with the new filmless tubes and the PVS 14RC being released and you may take more of a hit than you anticipated.
Your customers have been waiting patiently through a situation that TNVC has created but yet continues to fail at communicating honestly the status of the product.
Flounderv2,
We deal with hundreds of customers weekly, and we never take anything the wrong way, so no worries there. Coming off unsympathetic or rude would have been completely blowing off the post and ignoring it or feeding him a lie, instead I took responsibility for addressing Surgeon_Shooter’s questions. He wanted a straight answer, and so I feel it as part of my duties representing this company to give him a straight answer, no fluff, no filler, only truth. We know that Surgeon_Shooter like many of you folks, are valued customers that purchase from us on a daily basis, and we appreciate that. I don’t think it was rude at all, but if that’s the way you interpreted it, then I sincerely apologize.
We were ready to release, we were ready to ship the first units. Thankfully, we did not, because we found a problem. Albeit a minor one, still something we were not comfortable with until we can rectify it completely. When we were correcting that problem we did small things to the unit that we thought were just going to make it that much more built like a tank or bombproof,( IE changing the type of lubricant we use in adjustable focus knob. ) We didn’t have to go back to the drawing board with that, or any other thing, it was something very minor as were many other things. We are perfectionists. We need this to be perfect. We will knit pick small things. Yes, we have had delays unrelated, that’s just the game of designing a product for mass production. I’m so sorry to everyone, but we can’t send out a product that we *hope* will perform the way we want it to.
We are not forcing anyone to buy our product, and sure we understand we may take a hit. But, we will sleep better at night knowing that we did it the right way, instead of cutting corners. If that costs us a little business, so be it. As for the pvs14 RC, it's not our product, we've never used it, so we can't really comment about it; but I can tell you that a WASP is a clip on night vision device, not a PVS-14. Two different products, two different categories, designed for two different applications. Apples and Oranges really. If folks find products that suit them better from another company while waiting on our product to come out, we understand. We don't take it personally.
Our customers have been waiting patiently, and we do appreciate that. The ones that express concern are kindly offered a refund if they have already pre-ordered. Some have already been given a refund. We have done everything we can to make it right to any customer that has money invested in this product. If anyone else is unsatisfied with this answer that placed a pre-order, feel free to call us and speak with us personally on the matter. If you want a refund, we understand and will be more than happy to honor it.
When we have a firm date, we will let you guys know. Thank you all for your patience.
no doubt... If every1 is so excited, put another $5,000 with it and go get a pvs22At half the price of a PVS-22, it will be worth the wait.
Has there been any update as to the release yet?
Any word? Is it getting all squared away? I've been so tempted to buy a D-740 or 60 or pvs-22 but I sure do want a WASP..... If the 740&760 were rated for 7.62x51 recoil I'd already have one!
I'm late to the discussion, but what was the projected price on these bad boys? Ballpark is fine I don't need it carved in stone
For those of you that still don't believe that this device actually "exists," perhaps this should help. I've already killed a hog with the WASP, and I might just be the first human being to do it. I'm sure Vic or one of the guys will chime in, if they got another tester to kill one before I did, but Its already been in my hands 3 times, and I just sent the last production model back. It was good enough to shoot this thing right in the spine at 120 yards, with my 6.8. DRT. I like it. Its a great value for the price, and I think it will be as good as TNVC knows it needs to be. Its delayed because, like all new products that break into a unique niche, there has to be field testing and tweaking. Its that simple.
Eotech and 3X magnifier worked great to kill this pig. I will post a full report once its launched.
TNVC wanted me to say "I think its ready," that's why I've had it a few times.
ETA: I've been waiting much longer than any of the rest of you, LOL : )
Appreciate the update HTR707 and what seems as a very fair assessment as you see it.
Maybe it’s just me but when I read your post you don’t seem under or over whelmed with the product.
It’s a tool and you just want it to work as advertised - as does everyone else.
That said, a lot of the words you use would suggest this still is not ready to release yet but maybe on the other hand it’s as close as it CAN be…I don’t know
“Its coming, good enough, I like it, great value, I THINK it will be as good”
I’m just curious that if you just sent back the last production model, are you expecting to receive another one for more testing???
So in one of the posts above someone quotes the price as:
$5k for a Pinnacle version and a few hundred more for the L3 tube...
...so I've got to ask, is that going to be an L3 unfilmed tube, that would better better, generally than a Pinnacle? AKA: Why would an L3 tubed unit be more expensive??
I was cruising SWFA today and saw that they had the Pinnacle WASP for sale through Morovision.
Morovision WASP Clip-On Night Vision Device
Does anyone know anything about these Morovision WASPs? Is this just a TNVC model with Morovision's name on it? Also I wonder if this means that we're any closer to having the L3 model available.
Any news?
Jay