To the tick turds that keep hoarding the .22 lr stores, I will be laughing hard

#51

let me know where people are still paying 3-5X retail. I've got enough .22 in a box to make the trip worth it. It's a shame I sold those 10K rounds to co-workers at cost to the nearest dollar when i started this job.
 
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#52
You are only a hoarder to the have nots. Other like minded people who bought when it was cheap (smart thing to do) will call you "prepared" now that hard times have struck. Things rarely get cheaper, so not stocking up when they are cheap is only the fault of the buyer.

This applies to anything you regularly consume. If your brand of deoderant is on sale for $.99 you should buy 10 of them. Instead people will buy one, and when that is used up they'll replace it at $2.99 per stick. It just doesn't make sense.
 
#54
If you have issues with people buying an reselling ammo, then don't buy it. I personally would much rather live with capitalism than socialism or communism. Over the last couple years, I have not sold any of my ammo to turn a profit, but have sold a bit to friends and family at my cost to help them out.

If you are short on ammo, my recommendation would be to buy just a little more than you need the next time you see it in stock or place a backorder with an online dealer.

I placed backorders with reputable online dealers this year for .22 ammo. Sure it took a while to come in, but I felt like I got a good deal and am not scrambling for ammo every time I want to take my kids out shooting.

I am not a prepper, but I believe in being prepared (having at least a few months of food, $ to cover the bills for a few months, a generator to power the furnace in the winter incase the power goes out, plans on what to do in case of various emergencies, having enough ammo or reloading components to get me by for an extended period of time - so I don't have to pay crazy prices when shortages like this happen, well you get the point ...).

We have also added a ton of new shooters to the sport in the past couple years and all of them need ammo to shoot. I am sure many of them are tired of looking for ammo and buy more than they immediately need when given the opportunity. Many seasoned shooters are now doing the same which has increased the demand and created a shortage in supply. Things will eventually correct themselves, but I am not one of the optimists that foresee the ammo prices from 10 years ago coming back.
 
#57
Buying and shooting is fine, and if there was enough to go around ..... then sure stock up and save it.

Can really see where people are getting pissed off. Espically with the people that are able to stand in line at 0500 for the trucks to arive. Most people can't do that, for what ever reason. Shooting it is one thing, or using it through the year....sure. But sitting on it and screwing everyone esle is what pisses people off.
 
#59
I dont know who your "laughing" at? In the early 90s a local sporting goods store near me liquidated and sold boxes of 22 for next to nothing. long story short I was set on 22 and 12 ga for a LONG time. FAST FWD -- I started ordering online and found that I got free shipping with bulk ammo purchases so I bought the BIG cases of 22 and regular boxes of centerfire to tack on the free shipping. still cheap.
FAST FWD --- all hell breals loose on ammo, I buy reloading supply. Again Im set. My friend tells me ill never believe what 22 ammo is going for ($200+) I go to the gun show with 5 500 packs of 22, traded it for a cheap rifle , a new pistol &$150. probably ran me $50
...yeah
 
#62
All the locals on disabilty on the I -40 corridor from California through Texas and up into Colorado get to Walmart at 5 am and wait for the trucks to unload. They are buying the .22's with their disability checks. They later put it up online or get to gunshows & pawnshops. Some even resell it to gunshops, I have seen it and I will not frequent them again. Usually they have an "in" at Walmart. I got some of this information first hand and observed it for a while now. The truckers are involved too. I have watched entire shipments be taken by one buyer. Now this activity is slowing down and there is some ammo/22's available ocasionally, but for a long time this was funded by us taxpayers through the disability check system. They then went on line and to local gunshows and pawnshops. Made it really hard to compete.

I know one father who would buy 10,000 rounds in a heartbeat as his Saturdays shooting with his boys came to a schreeching halt and still are. It is something they used to do. It has also hurt .22 gun market - because they sold out of the rounds people weren't buying. Stupidity on stores parts for allowing three to five people with their oxygen tanks and wheel chairs to buy everything, every freaking week and have zero gun sales. On the other hand, many shooters have become reloaders because it is cheaper at some point to start shooting a centerfire over the cost of .22's. But this has hurt being able to find reloading components. Fortunately most recreational shooters and the disabled buyers don't know what to buy. But they learn quick.

Makes no sense. Don't care, find it interesting. Sad about my tax dollars. Glad some disabled people get to buy better weed and booze for a while. I guess it all helps the economy. The last gun show I went to, I saw some of their ilk, I woudn't even walk by their table. They rob the oxygen from the area.
 
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#65
Interesting that Dicks and Bass Pro shop would .22 ammo as a leader item for their stores. Tells me the supply chain is catching up a little. Went to Walmart early this past Saturday morning and they had Federal bulk packs on the shelf. Limit three per customer at 19.99.
 
#66
I can say that I've never even seen a tick turd. I've seen more than enough ticks, but never spent any quality time wallowing with them to notice what their turds look like. I imagine however, that it must be considered an insult of some sort.
 
#67
We get the last laugh when the hoarders try to shoot their ammo. I find 22 to be relatively perishable. I have always been able to find match ammo on internet, just not necessarily the brand and price I would want. When whoever is hoarding the ammo gets a few duds, those of us that shoot the ammo get the last laugh....
 
#68
wal mart needs to enact a policy.they need to require id # to get 22 and limit of one 500 ct box per MONTH, then per week as supply equalizes. all the old retired (explicative) that wait in line to scoop it all up and take to the pawn shops and sit on their (exp) and list it at gouger prices on gbroker and local forums would get to stand in line for nothing.


secondly THIS IS THE GOOD PART. I call it a lil gorilla warfare. get there ph#'s on your local forums when they post this crap up. call them and arrange a meeting "across town preferably" and no show.

call them at 2AM .... be creative. we as a responsible gun community should not allow these people to do this to us. I will not buy their ammo PERIOD.

it would be well worth buying one of those gas station pre paid phones for just this purpose.
 
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#69

You will be old indeed if you plan to have the last laugh on this. If your experience leads you to believe that 22lr ammo is "relatively perishable" then you nust be notoriously hard on ammo and store it rather haphazard. Properly stored 22lr, that I buy right now, will be good after I am gone, even if I live to be 100.
 
#70
I see both sides of argument. However as someone that's new to shooting it's frustrating. I've built my small stash, 2500 rounds, by getting lucky. I know for a fact I shoot less than I'd like. I refuse to buy from the scalpers.
 
#71
Maybe I missed it somewhere... but where the hell is all the .22lr ammo going? Not but 3 months ago I could get a brick(525rds) for $20. Today I went to go grab another few bricks and every guns store along the I-5 corridor from Olympia to Tacoma was sold out of ALL .22lr even the crap I wouldnt put through my rifles.
 
#72
Its odd not having these problems here in Canada, generally as goes the US so goes Canada. I bought my last case of 5500 rds @ $220.00 and they had plenty. We did see a run on some reloading supplies, generally in smaller packaging, (1 lb. powders) but I had no trouble buying bulk. (8 lb.) I hope that things improve, but honestly don't see that happening. It will never be in a politicians best interest to go any easier on us. Elections are won with rhetoric. Best of luck to all finding what they need.
 
#74
remember every box horded is a box that didnt make it to a first time shooter or a scout camp the market is the way it is because people are panic buying if poeple just used some restrain and didnt buy any for a while the market will tank and the non shooters capitalizing will dumb there inventory low this is when you get a good deal and some people at a gun shop werre debating the thing about the lead smelter most of the lead we us is recycled anyway i can only see the price of ammo going up with inflation if everyone didnt panic buy
 
#78
I'm a smartass this early in the morning and will admit you did make good points. I keep reading about how there is no shortage of ammunition and we should be able to get what we want, was even in the NRA magazine last month. It's just not happening.


1911fan
 
#79
I always get a good laugh reading about people bitching at other people because of their own lack of foresight. How much brain power does it take to realize that when we have a Democrat in the White House running for reelection & in the last debate talking about gun-control, that maybe you should buy a few boxes for a rainy day? Not many of you were Boy Scouts were you? I believe the motto is "Be Prepared".

Nervous
 
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#80

Well almost two whole months passed, nothing has really changed. I get the "Be prepared" but even replacement of preps means no or little shooting. In the last two months I have scored a total of 625 .22 rimfire rounds - at $5.50 per box of Rem green target, 29.99 for 325 Fed match and 12.95 for CCI 100 pack. I feel lucky. I am on back order lists too. I guess I shall keep my tinfoil hat on.
 
#81
#83
I wouldn't mind having a lifetime supply. As it is, teaching the wife & daughter to shoot, and using a .22 to practice breathing, form, and weak-side shooting have me burning it up at a pretty good rate. That's not counting sage rat trips, which can burn a couple bricks a day. I can't find the Remington Yellow Jacket bricks my guns like, at any price. It's been eight years. Figuring around 10,000 rounds a year I'd have to have 80,000 rounds on hand on Election Day.
Don't suppose you did? I'm down to around 6000 rounds and hate to shoot it at this point.


1911fan
 
#84

I'm sure I'm going to piss you off here, but really this statement is just a blanket asshole response. 13 months after Newtown, it's not only wore out it's welcome, it's worn out it's merit. This shit has drug on way too fucking long!
 
#87
Find places online that allow back-ordering and has reasonable prices. Back order everything you ever wanted (and can afford) then wait patiently. It actually shows up eventually and then you are all stocked up with out the stress and hassles.
 
#91

Procovert- I'm not sure I like the thought of "Showing and form of ID" to buy ANY Ammo. I do like the late night/early morning phone call idea....


Honestly if .22 ammo is such an issue why not by a .270 Win or 30-06. This ammo is on the shelf every time I go to a store that stocks ammo. Sure its more expensive and cuts down on "plinking" by really if we are talking about being "Prepared" some is better then none.
 
#92
Look at the ammo shortage this way. We have basically doubled in the USA the number of gun owners in the last 6 years. This means less ammo for those who have been in the gun sports prior to this shortage and the doubling of gun owners. Manufacturer's can't meet the supply in demand and are no doubt hesitant about expanding their operation's as this shortage (or supply in demand) may only be a passing fad. Can you imagine where we'd be if we had 100% of the USA involved in the shooting sports? We probably wouldn't see available ammo for decades.

Hoarders and scalpers don't help our present situation, but look who's got us to this point. Poor politics resulting in more gun ownership organization's getting more people involved in the shooting sports. In short, we've done this to ourselves to combat our country's poor politics. They're probably laughing their asses off at us up on Capital Hill.
 
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#93
i agree id # is a lil much. but the head clowns in charge cant seem to even tie their shoes in any sort of organized fashion. i cant really think of another way to stop the hoarding other than that. maby require credit card for ammo purchases and lock em that way.
i as well understand the being prepared part.who it is hurting is the new shooters/fathers who want to take their family out and get some expierence/ practice with their new 22 so they can be prepared for these uncertain times.

the part that bothers me is, its the slimey "gun owners" doing it to them.
 
#95

Judging from your first sentence friend, you got a real education ahead of you.........there's more knuckleheads here than the law allows. Truthfully now, where else will you run into the term "tick turds"? I ask you, what the bloody hell is a "tick turd"? Fully 20 percent of the inmates here could probably be brought up on charges of MURDER OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE........
2 basic rules for survival here are........don't piss into the wind or bend over in the shower.
 
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#96
my wal mart has people who clearly have nothing to do all day they show up everyday and buy the 22 9mm and 223 to the point our wal mart only sells one box of each at a time and they only stock milsurp 223 i havent seen a 9mm box in there ever since newton i figure these are the ass hats who are posting it for sale online at 40$ a box all my lgs in town limit ammo now it kinda bugs me because ill pick up some to go shooting with my non shooting friends they all love shooting the mystical glock 22 and now i have to burn 20$ in gas roaming town to find any
 
#99

Actually, things frequently get cheaper.

Generally speaking if technology is the gating factor in a price that price is going down because tech scales and competition drives prices down. This isn't even adjusting for inflation.



This is true even for things that are relatively limited in quantity (eg natural resources) but that benefit from the application of technology:



Some kinds of prices do tend to go up.

Eg when artificially supported by artificial monopolies (diamonds), driven up by investment bubbles (ammunition, gold, housing), true shortages (rare minerals) or skilled labor (especially true as skilled work forces in previously dirt-cheap geos raise their standard of living over time.
 
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