Trump is back…the “Now What” thread
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I'm thinking it couldn't even be a misdemeanor for possession of sound abatement equipment.
No, way. They are tools of assassins. You can walk up, shoot somebody right on a crowded sidewalk and nobody will even hear it.
The Alien Enemy Act applies only during an actual, declared war.
MR. JUSTICE FRANKFURTER delivered the opinion of the Court.
The Fifth Congress committed to the President these powers:
"Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies.
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Ludecke was German arrested the day after Pearl Harbor. Of course, you cannot very well effect a deportation to Germany when at war with Germany. So the move to deport him was made after the shooting stopped. The question raised was, does the lack of active hostilities nullify the power to deport under the Alien Enemy Act.
The answer was no.
"War does not cease with a cease-fire order, and power to be exercised by the President such as that conferred by the Act of 1798 is a process which begins when war is declared but is not exhausted when the shooting stops."
Folks on social media love to misrepresent things just to get more views.
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according to stephen miller, it does not. there are 3 conditions that may be used (according to his interview yesterday).The Alien Enemy Act applies only during an actual, declared war.
MR. JUSTICE FRANKFURTER delivered the opinion of the Court.
The Fifth Congress committed to the President these powers:
"Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies.
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Ludecke was German arrested the day after Pearl Harbor.
Folks on social media love to misrepresent things just to get more views.
Did not see the interview, but the social media post is citing a Supreme Court opinion, and I provided a link to it above. In addition, the language of the Alien Enemy Act is quoted in the Supreme Court opinion. "Whenever there is a declared war . . ."
Words mean things.
You can read the Act for yourself and then compare it to what Stephen Miller tells you.
He is probably relying on this language:
"or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"
But that appears to be a stretch, since there is no foreign nation or government action being perpetrated as an invasion.
"or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"
But that appears to be a stretch, since there is no foreign nation or government action being perpetrated as an invasion.
I know it is NPR, but this is a pretty good discussion of the Act, its context, and the three times it has been used in history.
thank you. i read it already, but did not offer my own interpretation (because i am nobody).
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies
There are three "or" in that link you provided.
..."or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event,..."
Those are separate items from a declared war.
Trump has made a public proclamation of these events
over my pay grade but something has to be done about these judges. my hope is that Trump ignores them and carries on. "the rule of law" is just not working for the American people,at least those with any brains. there are still the huge #s of deep state players,unhinged libs and the dependents on gov for their big salaries. what to do?
Yes, there is the word "or," but none of those conjunctive conditions are satisfied. There is no invasion by a foreign nation or government. There is no such invasion by a foreign nation or government perpetrated, attempted, or threatened. That is just fantasyland. Trump making a "proclamation" does not change fantasyland into reality. Note the word "and" before the proclamation, not "or."
That is a loser argument in court.
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Gun Owners Losing Patience with Pam Bondi and Kash Patel Over 2A Rights
Gun owners across the country are growing increasingly frustrated with Attorney General Pam Bondi and interim ATF head Kash Patel as delays and failures to act on key Second Amendment issues continue to mount. Various prominent figures in the gun rights community have called out the inaction, highlighting missed deadlines, non-compliance with court orders, and ongoing bureaucratic barriers preventing gun rights from being fully restored. |
Trump needs to ignore these judges, it's all bullshit window shopping by leftists, find the most libtarded district they can and file a lawsuit. Keep deporting illegal alien gangbangers, let Elon do his thing, don't re-hire anybody unless it's actually necessary. Highlight the fact that Democrats want to keep illegal alien gang members in the country and Republicans want to keep them out, highlight that Democrats want to continue fraud in USAID etc and Republicans want to clean it up. Just keep hammering away at those points.
I like that people are holding them accountable. Pro-2A stuff should be easy money for Bondi and Patel.
I like that people are holding them accountable. Pro-2A stuff should be easy money for Bondi and Patel.
right,could make them solid, highly respected,admired. don't know what is up with them. as it is,not encouraging.
But as it is, the Trump DOJ just filed papers in the Fifth Circuit a fews days ago arguing that gun mufflers are not arms and are therefore entitled to no protection under the Second Amendment.
This is the same position the Biden administration took in the same case.
No change.
And this is not bureaucratic inertia. It was filed after another filing about a month ago asking the court to hold while the DOJ reconsidered its options under the Trump Executive Order regarding Second Amendment litigation. After that month of delay, this is what we get.
So, to be clear, this is not a case of silence, or lack of action, or the Second Amendment not being a priority. This is a case of direct, intentional executive branch action after a period of time for consideration. That action is directly hostile to us, as citizens of this country, and directly hostile to our liberties.
Just so I am clear.
See post # 2045 for a copy of the DOJ's position paper filed in the court (don't take my word for it, go and look at it).
WAYNE ROOT: Back in 2015, I Wrote, “Is Supreme Court Justice John Roberts Being Blackmailed?” This Question is as Valid Today as a Decade Ago. | The Gateway Pundit | by Assistant Editor
Wayne Allyn Root revisits his controversial 2015 inquiry about Chief Justice John Roberts, questioning whether external pressures influence his judicial decisions. The implications for conservatism and governance in America remain profound and troubling.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
We laugh but they're already violent, they've started a website to terrorize tesla owners so the freaks can torch peoples cars. The troons who killed the border patrol guy. I give the leftists 1-3 months before they start overt terrorist acts using places like Reddit or Facebook to organize.
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