Ukraine war Bullshit.
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Its actualy quite funny that the elties do not even understand some of the core things they are runing and banking on. NATO membership is only approved with unanimous decision but realistically its about how much US pressures the rest to agree.
The second thing is those no so Russian assets frozen that Zelensky now claims and some think could finance the war in US absence.
A large portion of the €258 billion being held in Belgium under Russian sanctions has reportedly been found to belong to Western banks and non-sanctioned individuals and businesses, the situation has raised questions about the effectiveness and fairness of the current sanctions regime.Most of these frozen assets were said to be held by Euroclear, a global financial market infrastructure group based in Brussels. The company plays a crucial role in facilitating securities trading and custody.
“The inconvenient truth is that the vast majority of that sample amount does not belong to people and companies on a sanctions list”, De Tijd noted about the sanctioned money.
Billions of euros in frozen Russian assets not so ‘Russian’, Belgian news outlet says
A large portion of the €258 billion being held in Belgium under Russian sanctions actually belongs to Western entities.
brusselssignal.eu
Frozen Russian Assets Belong to Ukraine, Not Its Allies: Zelensky
Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Western countries have used sanctions and other financial mechanisms to freeze $350 billion of Russian sovereign assets.
www.kyivpost.com
They are trying to do that as we speak.
Imagine UK and Germany trying to muster an army to send to Ukraine to fight Russia though.
What transports will they use?
Who will supply the logistics?
Will their parliaments even sign-off on this insanity, escalating into a new world war?
This is what happens when formerly-powerful nations sacrifice defense-spending in-favor of stupid social welfare programs for migrants.
Trump Bashes 'Worst Statement That Could Have Been Made By Zelensky' - Mulls Canceling Military Aid | ZeroHedge
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"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has remained defiant in the wake of Friday's explosive confrontation with President Trump and Vice President JD Vance in the Oval Office. He said from London Sunday that he will not apologize that that his country's freedom is "not for sale".
He acknowledged that the public spat "didn’t bring anything positive or additional to us as partner" - however he also said "This relationship will continue because this is more than a relationship in one moment."
"If you don’t have an end to the war and you don’t have security guarantees, no one is able to control a ceasefire," Zelensky stressed in these latest remarks.
He still proclaimed that he remains "ready" to sign a US-Ukraine minerals deal, confirming that his aides are now speaking to Trump's team about ways to move forward on it.
But the mood from the White House appears to be one of willingness to cut Zelensky off altogether. There are reports that President Trump is mulling cutting off all continuing defense aid to Ukraine."
The stupid thing Zelensky did was try to muscle Trump into providing more weapons to keep the war going, when Trump clearly stated he wants the war to end. No matter what side anyone is on, it was pure diplomatic immaturity.
But it was stupid for Europe to slash their defense spending for the past 34 years. They already were not fulfilling their requirements as well as they could have from the 1950s-1980s, letting the US bear much of the burden.
The fact that they kept their heads in the sand after the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars, then the invasion of Georgia in 2008 was bad enough. After the invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea in 2014, there was no excuse anymore.
But it was stupid for Europe to slash their defense spending for the past 34 years. They already were not fulfilling their requirements as well as they could have from the 1950s-1980s, letting the US bear much of the burden.
The fact that they kept their heads in the sand after the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars, then the invasion of Georgia in 2008 was bad enough. After the invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea in 2014, there was no excuse anymore.
should be nothing to mull over. stop all funding & supply of all aid-military and "humanitarian". why hasn't this been done? not a confidence builder re what many here thought we were voting for. it does seem that the NWO assets in America are still able to interfere with the work that Trump should be trying to get done. fact is the Ukrainian people might just be better off under Putin. fuck Ukraine.
You’re smoking crack if you think Ukraine would be better off under Putin. Ukraine has been under Russia’s boot with multiple attempts and struggles for who controls Kiev through puppets and counter-puppets since the 1990s.
Just look at Poland’s economy, which has grown 6-fold since 1991, while Ukraine stagnated. Ukraine has more resources, a larger population, and well-educated/capable population, and access to the Black Sea.
Ukraine’s economy should have grown more than Poland’s, but someone has been pilfering their resources and revenue through a series of money-laundering fronts, while exploring the people for human-trafficking.
If Ukraine would have been able to trade in Euros, their economy would have taken off long ago, and Putin knows that. With a Ukraine economy growing rapidly and becoming more rich than Russia, what weapons would they then buy?
Taking Ukraine has always been part of Putin’s plan, which is exactly what the Russian Foreign Ministry secretary was telling us privately in the early-mid 2000s.
Trump has now thrown a wrench into the gears for everyone, and Putin stands to lose the most with Trump’s deal. Sacrificing Zelensky makes Russia think things are going their way, but Putin knows the US-Ukrainian resource deal cuts him out, and he has already played his valuable chess pieces in the game.
I suppose it's better than nothing, but
sounds different than ACTUALLY freezing weapons shipments from U.S. stockpiles
sounds different than ACTUALLY freezing weapons shipments from U.S. stockpiles
That’ll be great to hear…
…but how can we be certain resources won’t be funneled through the Europeans for their ‘brave, bold, new role” in all this?
No one uderstands that despite what they say in public the EU does not want this economic boom to end anytime soon. Example Norway. Russia up until they were boycotted and cut off was the largest supplier of natural gas to the EU.Now guess who is raking in the cash.? Norway has now stepped into that role. Wonder why that PM was bashing Trump and the whole deal?Now the new words are "we all want peace but a deal is not coming anytime soon." in other words Trump had Putin on the ropes and deal would have been done but we need to bleed this for all its worth.
Nah from where i am seating, it just bunch of elites with have rock bottom approval ratings or already lost elections that did not get the memo to change tack from their WEF puppeteers. Trump is moving way to fast for them . But sooner or later reality will set in as there is already much discontent in Europe over Ukraine first policies that are costing us a fortune and with no plan or goal in sight coupled with aggressive authoritarian tendencies, canceling elections, banning opposition and censorship. things are going to blow up in theri faces soon enough.
How will they be better off under blackrock and in infinite debt they won't be able to pay back for thousands of years?
You seem like a neocon bootlicker to me.
And you conveniently leave out where that money was pilfered, Kolomoisky, the guy your government protected from prosecution, bankrolled Zelensky and his banderite handlers.
Kolomoisky became the most powerful oligarch in Ukraine by stealing from the state and their banks, your government protected him.
Even forced Ukraine government to fire the prosecutor that tried to bring him to justice.
Also, Russia wants access to the black sea and no NATO on their border, controlling Ukraine is nothing but a liability to them, and they don't need their resources.
You just spew off neocon talking points and try to reinforce the idea that Russia is an enemy, don't know if you are retarded or just a dishonest sack of shit.
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