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Ukraine war Bullshit.

i'm sure our deep state intel workers here will love this one.

i wonder whether screwing around with the Russians during their Afghan adventure wasn't maybe a real bad idea. i think we paid a high price for that,maybe even 9/11. might have cost us 20 years of blood,treasure and hurt our int'l standing (which i think is unimportant). arming and training Muslim terrorists was a bad idea i think. IF the Russians took over in Afghanistan,they would have been in a 20 year war like us not to their benefit. prob been Indians and Pak's prob then.
i have to wonder what the payback might be in regards to Ukraine.
 
propaganda/conspiracy or sad thruth?


All-Ukrainian Association of Companies for International Employment chief Vasily Voskoboinik appeared on state television in February to push for mass migration, saying, “According to estimates by the International Organization for Migration”—a United Nations agency that preaches about immigration being “inevitable, desirable, and necessary”—” and the International Labour Organization, we will need 8.2 million workers.”
 
IMO the only true war/military intervention that was justifiable by the US since WW2 was Iraq/Kuwait. A coalition was formed, objective was clear and an end result/exit was planned and executed.

Until you realize actually none of it was justified.
It was all a setup
Sadam asked the US State department if we had any opinion on his dispute with Kuwait being the base for Dick's company stealing Iraq oil.
Our State department told him, hey we don't care, do whatever you want...
So his plan was to fix the situation by resolving something the British did to guarantee constant strife.

Then we got all upset and mad and such.

But it was just the start of the plan to turn the middle east into a giant mess because that's what Israel wanted so they can eventually push for their Greater Israel.

Syria just fell and soon probably Lebanon will be nice pickings as well so Israel can grab all it wants.
 
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But it was just the start of the plan to turn the middle east into a giant mess because that's what Israel wanted so they can eventually push for their Greater Israel.

My bubbanalysis screams that the Wesleyclarkistan grocery list makes perfect sense now! :ROFLMAO:

Somalia and Sudan were shoehorned into the original plan just to create space for turfing the Palestinians to!
 
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Until you realize actually none of it was justified.
It was all a setup
Sadam asked the US State department if we had any opinion on his dispute with Kuwait being the base for Dick's company stealing Iraq oil.
Our State department told him, hey we don't care, do whatever you want...
So his plan was to fix the situation by resolving something the British did to guarantee constant strife.

Then we got all upset and mad and such.

But it was just the start of the plan to turn the middle east into a giant mess because that's what Israel wanted so they can eventually push for their Greater Israel.

Syria just fell and soon probably Lebanon will be nice pickings as well so Israel can grab all it wants.
The Ramaila oil reservoir naturally flows into Kuwait in the border regions, like an underground lake. The slant drilling claim was BS, made by Saddam.

The other claim was Kuwait(along with others) were over producing according to a Opec agreement and Saddam claimed was keeping the price lower than they needed to pay back war loans which were impoverishing the country. They owed Kuwait around 7 Billion in loans and were getting further in the hole on the interest. Kuwait would not forgive the loan.

While the UN deciding to "save" Kuwait sounds noble, I still question was the fall out worth it.

Fast Forward to 2025... whats the fall out from Ukraine going to be?
 
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No surprise. The invasion of Western Europe is basically complete. The eastern sections are proving a little more resilient. Ukraine is a blacked out co-Ed half naked in a college dorm basement.
don't think Hungary or Poland would be welcoming. i doubt Serbia. don't know but has Bulgaria bought into the NWO shit,letting in the scum?
 
The more you go toward west worse is. Problem are external agencies that are “influencing public opinion” aka woke propaganda since 91 but has gotten progressively worse. We have an internal problem which i’ve written about that there are people here who are clueless and want to be a part of this advertised west and unable yo understand the propaganda. Hence you have got a ton of useful idiots who think imported human shit is good, Trump is bad and pinnacle of life is eating take away fucking anything that has a hole or pole and material trinkets should be in abundance. Much like your type of woke idiot.
World problem (at least in the developed world) are those creatures which under current political systems (more or less) due to their gullibility and naivety and idiocy enable various powerful entities to easily make “supranational” policy viable and global. How to solve problem of these NPCs is yet to be found as modern people have no stomach for old proven methods.
 
The more you go toward west worse is. Problem are external agencies that are “influencing public opinion” aka woke propaganda since 91 but has gotten progressively worse. We have an internal problem which i’ve written about that there are people here who are clueless and want to be a part of this advertised west and unable yo understand the propaganda. Hence you have got a ton of useful idiots who think imported human shit is good, Trump is bad and pinnacle of life is eating take away fucking anything that has a hole or pole and material trinkets should be in abundance. Much like your type of woke idiot.
World problem (at least in the developed world) are those creatures which under current political systems (more or less) due to their gullibility and naivety and idiocy enable various powerful entities to easily make “supranational” policy viable and global. How to solve problem of these NPCs is yet to be found as modern people have no stomach for old proven methods.
Problem is comfort, as long as people are somewhat comfortable and entertained, they will follow whatever they think enables that.
Cut power and internet for a week, and heads start rolling.
 
a bit OT but...just finished 500 pages of Iraqi hx. largely a hx of Islam as well. my ? is what was the Brit reason for separating Kuwait out from Iraq after ww1? the reason is unclear to me and i can't find a real explanation anywhere. i assume that it is oil related. there is a hx of Iraqi agitation about that. it's being separate and ind country actually backed by some Arab orgs. so it seems that tension there has a lengthy hx.
any solid info?
 
a bit OT but...just finished 500 pages of Iraqi hx. largely a hx of Islam as well. my ? is what was the Brit reason for separating Kuwait out from Iraq after ww1? the reason is unclear to me and i can't find a real explanation anywhere. i assume that it is oil related. there is a hx of Iraqi agitation about that. it's being separate and ind country actually backed by some Arab orgs. so it seems that tension there has a lengthy hx.
any solid info?
Kuwait became Kuwait in 1756.

1899 Brits gained control of their foregin affairs and became a protectorate of the Brits during WW1, from the Ottomans.

Oil was not discovered until the late 1930’s at which time Iraq started make claims on Kuwait.
Remember Turkeys position on Desert Storm? They would not get involved.
 
According to Groc:
Kuwait was separated from Iraq due to a combination of historical, colonial, and political factors rather than a single definitive event. The roots of this separation trace back to the late 19th and early 20th centuries, shaped largely by British influence and the decline of Ottoman control.
Historically, Kuwait was a small trading port and fishing village on the Persian Gulf, loosely under the administration of the Ottoman Empire as part of the Basra Vilayet, which also included modern-day southern Iraq. However, Kuwait’s local rulers, the Al-Sabah family, exercised significant autonomy. In 1899, fearing Ottoman centralization or potential rival European influence, Sheikh Mubarak Al-Sabah signed an agreement with Britain, making Kuwait a British protectorate. In exchange for military protection and support, Britain gained control over Kuwait’s foreign affairs. This marked the beginning of Kuwait’s distinct path from the territories that would later form Iraq.
After World War I, the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and Britain redefined the region’s borders under the mandate system. The 1922 Treaty of Uqair, negotiated by British High Commissioner Sir Percy Cox, formalized the boundaries between Kuwait, Iraq (then under British mandate), and Saudi Arabia. Iraq’s borders were drawn to encompass the former Ottoman provinces of Baghdad, Basra, and Mosul, while Kuwait remained a separate entity under British protection. The Al-Sabah rulers retained their authority, and Kuwait’s status as a distinct entity was solidified, partly to serve British strategic interests, including access to the Gulf and later oil.
Iraq, upon gaining independence in 1932, periodically claimed Kuwait, arguing it was historically part of the Basra region and that British delineation was artificial. However, Kuwait’s separate development continued, reinforced by its oil wealth and international recognition. In 1961, Kuwait gained full independence from Britain. Iraq, under General Abdul Karim Qasim, immediately threatened to annex it, prompting a British military response and eventual Arab League intervention to secure Kuwait’s sovereignty. The United Nations and most of the international community recognized Kuwait as a separate state, cementing its status.
In short, Kuwait’s separation from Iraq resulted from British colonial policies, strategic agreements, and the Al-Sabah dynasty’s autonomy, formalized through treaties and upheld by international support, despite Iraq’s occasional claims rooted in Ottoman-era administrative ties.
 
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ok. knew it was a protectorate. my impression was that before 20th cent it was not a separate "country". celebrate nationhood in like 1961? the concept of nationality vs ethnicity or religion or even tribe were the defining consideration pre 20th cent. it seems all over the ME. the Ottoman involvement in Iraq was long standing and pretty confusing. Turks lost a lot of land post ww1 which seems to have led to a lot of dealing at Versailles. so,setting Kuwait apart maybe to do with Churchill's trying to save $ after ww1? Brits were broke. on a map could sure be a part of Iraq. Saddam was interested in the $ it seems. anyway just asking stuff.
 
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