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Yo Dude, wasn't planning on it, but I like AZ.Mmmmmm $31,200.00
maybe I’ll sell my Gen1. I wonder if I can get MB to sign it like Carol Shelby used to? @RAVAGE88 you coming to AZ anytime soon?
As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500. One of my Gen 1's is VGW-DEFTI, pictured on the cover of RECOIL Magazine (only bolt action to be on the cover). The good ole days....Gen 1 will sell north of $30k more if you have Gucci mags.
Curious @RAVAGE88 what’s the SN range for gen1?
Damn! That is telling…As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500. One of my Gen 1's is VGW-DEFTI, pictured on the cover of RECOIL Magazine (only bolt action to be on the cover). The good ole days....
And just a bit of history, the Gen 1 actions and a small number of Gen 2's were the only actions made that were covered by the patents. A hard left exit was taken shortly into Gen 2 production that invalidated the patents, but the Gen 2's and continuing into Three-60 production have been marked as patent pending, which is actually not legal.
MB
Yep, $500 fine per violation. I'm not sure how many receivers have been made since early Gen 2, but in total to date, that's a big number.Damn! That is telling…
I think it’s fair to say they set the bar in Rimfire for anyone else to follow. Not the first, but what they were expected to be as top tier.Looks like the timing is right for L3i to launch their new action, don't know how long before Kenny at DPG brings his to market too. Who knows, in a year from now people might be saying who's Vudoo...never heard of em.
You're definitely making some valid points and there's certainly indications that "advancement" has stalled due to the oldest game in the industry, but I'm certain "better" will be a product of the unfortunate situation unfolding in front of everyone.I think it’s fair to say they set the bar in Rimfire for anyone else to follow. Not the first, but what they were expected to be as top tier.
RimX has gone a step further, (yes, I ragged them for lack of transparency and how the bolt issues were addressed) hoping they’re fixed, but until something new comes out, AND is proven, those 2 still rule the roost.
You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.You're definitely making some valid points and there's certainly indications that "advancement" has stalled due to the oldest game in the industry, but I'm certain "better" will be a product of the unfortunate situation unfolding in front of everyone.
In the periphery, there are a few scrambling to adjust in an effort to keep operations going (termed as TOP SECRET in a prior post) that have been designed around the creation and existence of the V-22 line. But, those operations have nothing to do with advancement, but instead, maintaining status quo....which, in the long run, isn't good for the community.
MB
That's an awesome question and it's at the center of what I just posted in the V-22 Bolt Action thread. So, I'll not provide technical details for the sake of what could be....You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.
Consistency would go a long way to see serious gains.
That checks out. My SN is in the 1090s. I had thought it was a gen 2 but I think it was just gen 1.2As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500
Fwiw, I have #20xx, ordered/received early 2019... definitely 1st-gen, or at least the bolt has the big cocking button that got tiny with gen-2 (and maybe 1.1 but that's fuzzy).As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500.
Yep, the range is a little fuzzy for me too as I'm depending on memory at the moment and not actual documentation. The Gen 1.2 was in the mix within the S/N range and part of some of the early measures to erase some of the troublesome Remington DNA to improve the fire control system, but, there were some back-and-forth things going on with what actually ended up in some guns.Fwiw, I have #20xx, ordered/received early 2019... definitely 1st-gen, or at least the bolt has the big cocking button that got tiny with gen-2 (and maybe 1.1 but that's fuzzy).
With what serial did the production run start? 1001? Back in my skeet days, we "early adopter" Kolar owners would talk about whose shotgun was "oldest." So far, mine has taken that "honor" with being the 7th production copy out the door. As it was with you, Mike, the gun's designer took great interest in feedback on those early guns. We had a number of great conversations.
Let me know if you do! I’ve got some good places to eat and fun places to pew.Yo Dude, wasn't planning on it, but I like AZ.
MB
A custom Rimfire action that runs like a ‘90’s Honda accord and doesn’t take 6+ months to get. $1500 maybe? Even $2K if it works and ships reasonably quickly. This is apparently too much to ask, which is why the CZ’s kick ass.You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.
Consistency would go a long way to see serious gains.
Not entirely unreasonable....A custom Rimfire action that runs like a ‘90’s Honda accord and doesn’t take 6+ months to get. $1500 maybe? Even $2K if it works and ships reasonably quickly.