Vudoo closed the doors…

Gen 1 will sell north of $30k more if you have Gucci mags.

Curious @RAVAGE88 what’s the SN range for gen1?
As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500. One of my Gen 1's is VGW-DEFTI, pictured on the cover of RECOIL Magazine (only bolt action to be on the cover). The good ole days....

And just a bit of history, the Gen 1 actions and a small number of Gen 2's were the only actions made that were covered by the patents. A hard left exit was taken shortly into Gen 2 production that invalidated the patents, but the Gen 2's and continuing into Three-60 production have been marked as patent pending, which is actually not legal.

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As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500. One of my Gen 1's is VGW-DEFTI, pictured on the cover of RECOIL Magazine (only bolt action to be on the cover). The good ole days....

And just a bit of history, the Gen 1 actions and a small number of Gen 2's were the only actions made that were covered by the patents. A hard left exit was taken shortly into Gen 2 production that invalidated the patents, but the Gen 2's and continuing into Three-60 production have been marked as patent pending, which is actually not legal.

MB
Damn! That is telling…
 
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Looks like the timing is right for L3i to launch their new action, don't know how long before Kenny at DPG brings his to market too. Who knows, in a year from now people might be saying who's Vudoo...never heard of em.
 
Looks like the timing is right for L3i to launch their new action, don't know how long before Kenny at DPG brings his to market too. Who knows, in a year from now people might be saying who's Vudoo...never heard of em.
I think it’s fair to say they set the bar in Rimfire for anyone else to follow. Not the first, but what they were expected to be as top tier.

RimX has gone a step further, (yes, I ragged them for lack of transparency and how the bolt issues were addressed) hoping they’re fixed, but until something new comes out, AND is proven, those 2 still rule the roost.
 
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I think it’s fair to say they set the bar in Rimfire for anyone else to follow. Not the first, but what they were expected to be as top tier.

RimX has gone a step further, (yes, I ragged them for lack of transparency and how the bolt issues were addressed) hoping they’re fixed, but until something new comes out, AND is proven, those 2 still rule the roost.
You're definitely making some valid points and there's certainly indications that "advancement" has stalled due to the oldest game in the industry, but I'm certain "better" will be a product of the unfortunate situation unfolding in front of everyone.

In the periphery, there are a few scrambling to adjust in an effort to keep operations going (termed as TOP SECRET in a prior post) that have been designed around the creation and existence of the V-22 line, but, those operations have nothing to do with advancement. Instead, they maintain status quo, which, in the long run, isn't good for the community.

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You're definitely making some valid points and there's certainly indications that "advancement" has stalled due to the oldest game in the industry, but I'm certain "better" will be a product of the unfortunate situation unfolding in front of everyone.

In the periphery, there are a few scrambling to adjust in an effort to keep operations going (termed as TOP SECRET in a prior post) that have been designed around the creation and existence of the V-22 line. But, those operations have nothing to do with advancement, but instead, maintaining status quo....which, in the long run, isn't good for the community.

MB
You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.

Consistency would go a long way to see serious gains.
 
You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.

Consistency would go a long way to see serious gains.
That's an awesome question and it's at the center of what I just posted in the V-22 Bolt Action thread. So, I'll not provide technical details for the sake of what could be....

Thanks, Dude.

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As I recall, the range started at 1001 and went just beyond 1500.
Fwiw, I have #20xx, ordered/received early 2019... definitely 1st-gen, or at least the bolt has the big cocking button that got tiny with gen-2 (and maybe 1.1 but that's fuzzy).

With what serial did the production run start? 1001? Back in my skeet days, we "early adopter" Kolar owners would talk about whose shotgun was "oldest." So far, mine has taken that "honor" with being the 7th production copy out the door. As it was with you, Mike, the gun's designer took great interest in feedback on those early guns. We had a number of great conversations.
 
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Fwiw, I have #20xx, ordered/received early 2019... definitely 1st-gen, or at least the bolt has the big cocking button that got tiny with gen-2 (and maybe 1.1 but that's fuzzy).

With what serial did the production run start? 1001? Back in my skeet days, we "early adopter" Kolar owners would talk about whose shotgun was "oldest." So far, mine has taken that "honor" with being the 7th production copy out the door. As it was with you, Mike, the gun's designer took great interest in feedback on those early guns. We had a number of great conversations.
Yep, the range is a little fuzzy for me too as I'm depending on memory at the moment and not actual documentation. The Gen 1.2 was in the mix within the S/N range and part of some of the early measures to erase some of the troublesome Remington DNA to improve the fire control system, but, there were some back-and-forth things going on with what actually ended up in some guns.

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So I bought my first one in February of 2020 and it was a Gen 1.2 (S/N 28xx) with the small protrusion. Later that year I got a Gen 2 (the one I recently re-acquired) which had the different bolt design (S/N 35xx). The Gen 2 also has the patent number below the SN whereas the Gen 1.2 does not.
 
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You're an OG, how much further do you think there is to go? I personally feel the rifles and barrel selection have come a long way, and the ammo is where we’d all like to see advanced technology help.

Consistency would go a long way to see serious gains.
A custom Rimfire action that runs like a ‘90’s Honda accord and doesn’t take 6+ months to get. $1500 maybe? Even $2K if it works and ships reasonably quickly. This is apparently too much to ask, which is why the CZ’s kick ass.
 
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