Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action

[Sekaf]

Please Guys. Some advice. I’m new here and ordered my vudoo brining of Jan. I just got an email from Vudoo today. Saying this “
Our Ace barrels are currently on back order. Would you like to go with Bartlein instead?” I ordered a 20” Ace with a flute. Is there much of a difference. Thanks

 

[Ronin_64]

Hmmm, curious, I ordered mine with an 18” Ace Kukri profile in late February. No email from Vudoo saying delay as of yet...fingers crossed. Vudoo spoke highly of the Ace barrel but I wouldn’t feel bad if I had chosen Bartlein either.

 

[DairyDictator]

Please Guys. Some advice. I’m new here and ordered my vudoo brining of Jan. I just got an email from Vudoo today. Saying this “
Our Ace barrels are currently on back order. Would you like to go with Bartlein instead?” I ordered a 20” Ace with a flute. Is there much of a difference. Thanks

That sounds like an upgrade to me. Bartlein makes some amazing barrels. Not sure if it will cost you more though.

 

[Sekaf]

That sounds like an upgrade to me. Bartlein makes some amazing barrels. Not sure if it will cost you more though.

I don’t mind if they cost more $. I m going all out on this gun. I live on a small island in southeast Alaska. I’m very thankful for this site and the knowledge here. Just trying to make good choices. Thanks again for the advice

 

[RAVAGE88]

I don’t mind if they cost more $. I m going all out on this gun. I live on a small island in southeast Alaska. I’m very thankful for this site and the knowledge here. Just trying to make good choices. Thanks again for the advice

You’ll not regret the Bartlein. What’s even cooler is, with the interest in rimfire continuing to ramp at a blistering pace, a lot of barrel makers are putting tons of effort into making better rimfire barrels and Bartlein is at the top.

The other side of this is, we’ve saturated capacity at Ace, so that’s why you received the email. We’re adjusting everywhere possible to keep things moving while not settling for less than what we’ve always delivered.

Hope this helps,
MB

 

[Badjujuu]

You’ll not regret the Bartlein. What’s even cooler is, with the interest in rimfire continuing to ramp at a blistering pace, a lot of barrel makers are putting tons of effort into making better rimfire barrels and Bartlein is at the top.

The other side of this is, we’ve saturated capacity at Ace, so that’s why you received the email. We’re adjusting everywhere possible to keep things moving while not settling for less than what we’ve always delivered.

Hope this helps,
MB

MB,

As always, it's seriously nice to have you on here to answer questions.

One I have for you - it seems I've been caught up in a delay on left handed barreled action due to missing left handed bolt noses.

Is there a estimated time when these will be released?

Much appreciated.

 

[RAVAGE88]

MB,

As always, it's seriously nice to have you on here to answer questions.

One I have for you - it seems I've been caught up in a delay on left handed barreled action due to missing left handed bolt noses.

Is there a estimated time when these will be released?

Much appreciated.

Thanks, and happy to be here Dude.

Funny you should ask about this, I’m actually looking into it today and have a way to speed things up. Standby for more info....

MB

 

[Badjujuu]

Thanks, and happy to be here Dude.

Funny you should ask about this, I’m actually looking into it today and have a way to speed things up. Standby for more info....

MB

You're the bee's knees......

 

[RAVAGE88]

You're the bee's knees......

MB

 

[Gunfighter716]

I don’t mind if they cost more $. I m going all out on this gun. I live on a small island in southeast Alaska. I’m very thankful for this site and the knowledge here. Just trying to make good choices. Thanks again for the advice

I received the same update on my order and did not hesitate switching to the Bartlein. I've used them on my centerfires and there's no question they are top quality. I don't believe there is an upcharge for the Bartlein.

 

[StrayDog]

Looking forward to hearing LH barrel actions becoming available and shipping out. I'm on a notification list!

 

[Sekaf]

You’ll not regret the Bartlein. What’s even cooler is, with the interest in rimfire continuing to ramp at a blistering pace, a lot of barrel makers are putting tons of effort into making better rimfire barrels and Bartlein is at the top.

The other side of this is, we’ve saturated capacity at Ace, so that’s why you received the email. We’re adjusting everywhere possible to keep things moving while not settling for less than what we’ve always delivered.

Hope this helps,
MB

It is true , everyone say vudoo has great customer support.Love it. Thank you!!!

 

[chadrp]

I just picked up a TacSport 2-stage, default medium sear and the owner said it worked great on the Vudoo, but I've seen threads here recommending a high sear. Anyone have issues running the medium sear? Wanted to verify before I have to plop another $35 for a new sear.

I'm running a medium in mine with no issues at 1lb 10oz total weight. Although the high is correctly recommended by measuring, my understanding is that it's only necessary if you want to run as light of weight as possible. Set your weight and check it with a drop test.

 

[Sekaf]

Looking forward to hearing LH barrel actions becoming available and shipping out. I'm on a notification list!

Did you see they have a whole left hand gun for sale?

 

[Badjujuu]

Did you see they have a whole left hand gun for sale?

I know i did, i really tried to convince my wife that we needed a lefty....

 

[StrayDog]

Did you see they have a whole left hand gun for sale?

Where?

 

[Cowpokey]

 

[littlepod]

I'm running a medium in mine with no issues at 1lb 10oz total weight. Although the high is correctly recommended by measuring, my understanding is that it's only necessary if you want to run as light of weight as possible. Set your weight and check it with a drop test.

When I set it to single stage, it worked reliably, but on 2-stage it did not work. I was trying to run it at an 8oz/8oz setup. I am guessing at 1lb 10oz it probably would be okay.

I'm back to my Huber for now.

 

[jmw]

When I set it to single stage, it worked reliably, but on 2-stage it did not work. I was trying to run it at an 8oz/8oz setup. I am guessing at 1lb 10oz it probably would be okay.

I'm back to my Huber for now.

Did u adjust your lower seer engagement. I am using the high top seer on mine. However set at 8/8 I had to adjust lower seer, which you should do anyway to optimize the trigger

 

[chadrp]

^^^ this, if you increase or decrease weight you must adjust/check your sear engagement

 

[littlepod]

^^^ this, if you increase or decrease weight you must adjust/check your sear engagement

With the medium sear no adjustment worked to make it reliable at the sub 1lb two stage weight.

 

[chadrp]

With the medium sear no adjustment worked to make it reliable at the sub 1lb two stage weight.

Ok then that sounds like a high sear will be needed somewhere in the sub 1.5 lb range to go lighter as that as light as I've went with mine.

 

[RAVAGE88]

With the medium sear no adjustment worked to make it reliable at the sub 1lb two stage weight.

Your best bet will be the high sear for all weight range settings.

MB

 

[Pocket]

ordered my 2nd the other day. i REALLY wanted a custom foundation stock from J.K. but the guy that has the blue/black marbled had to bug him for 3 years to get one. i WAS going to just have vudoo cerakote a foundation black at least and when i asked about it i could hear Ms. Jill's heart break over the phone. been working nights and decided just to stay with the dark distressed and she emailed me that should we be "MORE THAN HAPPY to order me a beautiful dark distressed foundation with NO cerakote" lol

 

[Pocket]

and upon looking more on the IG it seems my build is the AdaptiveOPs raffle build so i at least know what it looks like "in person"

 

[Quickoz]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the website explicitly say to contact them if you're using a tuner so they can make the threads longer?

Doesnt matter for me due to my design.

 

[rick137]

About two weeks ago took possession of a V22 Gen2 with a Proof CF barrel. VGW had kindly installed a Bix'nAndy 2-stage BR/Competition trigger. I checked the functioning of the barreled action-trigger and all was well as one would expect on a VGW product. I put the barreled action-trigger into a PRS1 stock inletted for Rem 700 SA with 45 in/lb for both action screws. Until yesterday all seemed well with hundreds of rounds of dry-firing. Yesterday on closing the bolt the firing pin would release about once every two or three shots. I removed the barreled action-trigger and no firing pin release occurred. My immediate naive gunsmithing thought was the height of the top sear. I had specified a high top sear from Bullet Central but have not confirmed it is a high top sear. Most curious is why this phenomenon occured after hundreds of rounds of firing. I could understand if it occurred immediately. Perhaps a medium top sear and the inletting was such that tightening the action screws deformed the receiver?

 

[jbell]

About two weeks ago took possession of a V22 Gen2 with a Proof CF barrel. VGW had kindly installed a Bix'nAndy 2-stage BR/Competition trigger. I checked the functioning of the barreled action-trigger and all was well as one would expect on a VGW product. I put the barreled action-trigger into a PRS1 stock inletted for Rem 700 SA with 45 in/lb for both action screws. Until yesterday all seemed well with hundreds of rounds of dry-firing. Yesterday on closing the bolt the firing pin would release about once every two or three shots. I removed the barreled action-trigger and no firing pin release occurred. My immediate naive gunsmithing thought was the height of the top sear. I had specified a high top sear from Bullet Central but have not confirmed it is a high top sear. Most curious is why this phenomenon occured after hundreds of rounds of firing. I could understand if it occurred immediately. Perhaps a medium top sear and the inletting was such that tightening the action screws deformed the receiver?

Rick is the stock equipped with the Mini chassis? If you can not replicate the failure with the BA out of the stock I suggest using a dial indicator to test the bedding fit. Zero the indicator with the base clamped to either the forearm or barrel and indicator on the other. Alternately loosen and tighten the action screws looking for movement I will bed if I see any more than 0.003" but prefer less! Most of the time a thousandth is fine. Repeat this measuring off the tang as well. If you find excessive movement remove the trigger and repeat because the trigger could be contacting the stock somewhere.

Just how I would start the diagnosis.

 

[jbell]

FWIW I have seen V block style chassis distort R700 style actions enough to cause the bolt to bind in the raceway.

 

[Rob01]

Maybe a real 700 but custom actions, like the Vudoo, are machined truer and in a Manners Mini Chassis won't have an issue. If it's bedded for another action then it might. Also maybe try torquing to 65 in/lbs.

 

[CBeck]

How light is the trigger set?

 

[jbell]

I agree with you Rob, but with it being such an easy thing to test I think it should be checked as opposed to assume it fits properly.

 

[Sekaf]

I’m jumping in with another question please. I was just informed from VUDOO that my build will hopefully start next week....YES!!! I have been patiently waiting. My question is I’m getting a greyboe stock since Manners are still 6 months out. I bed all of my guns. I assume these come un bedded. I see they sell the Vudoo stock pillars. Is that what most do? Buy the pillars and bed ourself? Thanks again for all of the wisdom/knowledge out there.
keith
Sitka, Alaska

 

[Gjmen22]

I’m jumping in with another question please. I was just informed from VUDOO that my build will hopefully start next week....YES!!! I have been patiently waiting. My question is I’m getting a greyboe stock since Manners are still 6 months out. I bed all of my guns. I assume these come un bedded. I see they sell the Vudoo stock pillars. Is that what most do? Buy the pillars and bed ourself? Thanks again for all of the wisdom/knowledge out there.
keith
Sitka, Alaska

My Grayboe came with the pillars already installed. Not bedded, pillars yes.

Gjmen22

 

[Sekaf]

My Grayboe came with the pillars already installed. Not bedded, pillars yes.

Gjmen22

Awesome!

 

[rick137]

Gents:
Many thanks for your posts.

To answer the questions:
@jbell:
- the PRS1 stock was purchased from Altus and came with the Mini Chassis
- the dial indicator procedure is excellent; I saw it done in a video from StraightJacket Armory; unfortunately do not have a dial caliper and probably not the skill to use it to 0.003"
- scary that torqueing the action screws can distort a Rem700 receiver to that degree; the Bix'nAndy Rem700 2-stage Benchrest Trigger has aluminum side plates while the TacSport PRO has steel; perhaps I inadvertently deformed something in the Benchrest Trigger; I had used a TacSport PRO trigger in the same stock without issue so presumed, perhaps wrongly, there would be no issue with the Benchrest Trigger

@Rob01:
-first comment to @jbell

@qodeBebop:
- 8oz, more or less

Continuing the story, after several hours I again began testing the barreled action plus trigger with no stock. After about 10 cockings and firings with normal operation the firing pin began firing on closing the bolt. Frying pan into the fire. Yesterday called Bullet Central. Asked if perhaps the issue was that the top sear height could be medium, which is the default, and was told no. The Bullet Central position is a medium top sear works perfectly in a V22. BC suggested it could be the bottom sear causing the problem and explained the procedure for determining the correct degree of engagement. They also said the Bix'nAndy 2-stage Benchrest trigger was like a Formula 1 car that needs to be carefully tuned while the TacSport Pro was not. I sensed the implication was knowing how to drive a pickup doesn't qualify one to drive a Lambo Huracan. Following the procedure for adjusting lower sear produced a mixture of results, normal firing, firing on closure, delayed firing on closure and a variety of pull weights.

I know the real reason for the issue is bad karma. The trigger knows I have no interest in benchrest shooting and in my heart-of-hearts consider positional shooting the ultimate test of marksmanship. So at my earliest convenience will swap the benchrest trigger for a Tacsport PRO trigger.

Rick the pickup truck driver

 

[huntnh]

Iv always Torqued the manners mini chassis 65 front and 45 rear

 

[Rob01]

Iv always Torqued the manners mini chassis 65 front and 45 rear

Was just going to post this as that is how they should be torqued per Manners. I have always done mine both centerfire and rimfire like that also.

Just get a Timney HIT or TT Special or Diamond if you need to go under 1 pound. They all work just fine with no timing or messing with. Set weight and shoot.

 

[rick137]

Was just going to post this as that is how they should be torqued per Manners. I have always done mine both centerfire and rimfire like that also.

Just get a Timney HIT or TT Special or Diamond if you need to go under 1 pound. They all work just fine with no timing or messing with. Set weight and shoot.

@Rob01:

Triggers are very personal. My go-to trigger is the Bix'nAndy 2-StageTacsport PRO with a gator shoe set at about 8oz. I have used several for years without issue. The trigger weight is easy to adjust and goes to 3oz. They will continue to be my go-to trigger. However, the Bix'nAndy 2-Stage Benchrest trigger seems a different breed of cat. However I am certain Timney also makes a fine trigger.

Rick

 

[Rob01]

Just trying to put out some triggers that work every time in a Vudoo without issues. Use what works for you.

 

[accurate obsession]

Just took possession of my Vudoo barreled action today, literally about 2 hours ago. So I'm in the midst of just checking things, anything, everything. Placed the action into the Manners stock (mini chassis) and checking fit of all the magazines. Total of 5, 4poly, one aluminum. Aluminum and two poly fit perfect, clean audible click, drop free. Two poly will not seat or almost seat but will pull free. After looking for small differences between the go and no go mags I noticed a small burr at the top of the no go mags. It is really flash from the molding process and a mere few thousandths, but this is a precise system so that's all it takes. Used a fine smoothing file to blend the flash away and the two no go mags are now perfect. Took this Pic before I fixed both to illustrate the issue. Hopefully smooth sailing after this.

 

[J-Ham]

@accurate obsession, thanks for info, man!

 

[Jefe's Dope]

What's the skinny on using Eley?

 

[99tharmory]

Ordered in Nov. Due 3/5. "Currently no ETA on left handed actions"

Just got the call today that it's not only finished but on the way! Dang MB you guys are fast from no parts to a finished rifle! I can't wait to give this new case of tenex a go.

 

[Badjujuu]

Just got the call today that it's not only finished but on the way! Dang MB you guys are fast from no parts to a finished rifle! I can't wait to give this new case of tenex a go.

A lefty one?

 

[99tharmory]

A lefty one?

Yes Sir! LH 20" kukri in a KRG Bravo

 

[Badjujuu]

that's great news - congrats! That's good news for all the southpaws out there, including me lol

 

[vetski]

First time out at 100yds today and am impressed! Did not include the shot to the right as it was the first and I was trying to find my holdover. Haven’t yet set the zero stop on my scope, but holdover was right at around 2 mil from 50 yd zero. This was Midas +

 

[huntnh]

Looks good for a first outing

 

[vetski]

Ya, if the shooter can improve maybe I can eliminate those upper left shanks!