Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action

[Tree]

@RAVAGE88

I would like to add my personal experience with Vudoo.

This is “why” I have chosen a Vudoo for both my wife’s and my rimfire rifles (besides the accuracy of the rifle)

When I was looking to get a rifle so my wife and I could shoot together I looked to Vudoo because of the great customer service they had provide me previously.

My wife is a southpaw, in addition she has shoulder/arm issues which prevents her from using a “heavy” rifle.

After talking at length on the phone with the Vudoo team (Thank you Greg) they recommended I go with a Ravage in the 18” configuration. So I ordered one.

When it arrived I was a little worried as it seemed to be on the”heavy “ side for what I thought she needed. Low and behold it was. (Shit now what to do, I just purchased a rifle that she can’t use.?

I called them to discuss my dilemma. As they have been each and every time I talked with them (Jill is outstanding) they told me they would discuss it as a team and get back to me.

Next day I get the call back. We discussed differences in stock/barrel weights and whether or not I thought any of the options would help. This is were I brought up their All Composite Stock (all carbon fiber and stupid light) also known as the Black Magic. They were initially hesitant to bring this stock up due to the cost of this stock (they have never once tried to up sell me). After some further discussion they told me “just send the rifle back and we will give you a full credit toward her other rifle. This astonished me. Who would have thought they would take it back no questions asked.

I am now the owner of 2 of their rifles and will be purchasing a third very soon. They are outstanding at putting their customers first and go out of there way to help.

Thanks for listening ?. Oh and here is my wife’s rifle (wish it was mine). ?

 

[rick137]

ALERT: FILTER OFF.

Ok, it’s time to answer what has been another common question lately and that is, will Vudoo be offering pre-fit barrels. The answer is, adamantly, “No, we won’t be offering pre-fit barrels.” The follow-on question is, “is this because of the extractor cuts?” The answer is, “no, it has nothing to do with extractor cuts.”

So, why is this? If you look back at the very first post of this thread, you’ll see a rifle built in the lab that’s based on one of our first three actions. Looking at the initial posts overall, one might think I was testing the action, but in actuality, I was testing the entire process that was created to purposely offer consistency. There’s a reason the action is designed the way it is, there’s a reason the chamber is designed the way it is, there’s a reason we’re so picky about the barrels we offer, and it’s because we have a very tight approach to controlling every possible variable. This is why the very first shots out of that rifle in the first post created such a tight first five shot group and there’s a reason I initially built nine rifles the same way and used seven of them at the NRA World Championships in 2017 in place of Anschutz (at the invite of Lapua). That’s how we rolled this thing out and it’s been amazing ever since.

Parallel to this, we initially thought it might be a good idea to offer stand-alone actions for others to barrel but we quickly found out that others don’t control the variables very well. Aside from @flatland1 and GA Precision, we had to re-barrel most every stand-alone action (there might be one or two I’m not remembering and I want to be fair in this post) we sold because the end product didn’t match how we believe the rifles should’ve performed. So, we stopped selling stand-alone actions (except to those few that have knocked it out of the park) and we don’t do marking variances for those just wanting to capitalize on the shooting community. It’s just that simple and it’s proven everyday in various posts in this Rimfire forum.

Another follow-on question is, “well, if your process is so tight and the extractor cuts don’t keep you from making pre-fits, why don’t you do pre-fits?” Very simple, we have to look you in the eye and tell you your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. That means, if we develop the data by shooting your rifle ourselves, we won’t be lying to you by saying your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. Again, very simple. This is all part of our “Satisfaction Guarantee,” and it’s also why we don’t offer some ridiculous “accuracy guarantee.”

I hope this clears it up and as always, keep reaching out with such good questions. We can tell you guys are thinking and you’re asking all the right questions....keep ‘em comin’....I also appreciate the latitude from you guys when I turn off the filter. ????

MB

Mike:

If I understand correctly, the Vudoo concept is only a weapon system has performance and that Vudoo has a performance guarantee. To me a weapon system includes all components of the rifle, rail, scope mount, scope, ammunition of course, support sub-system and last, often least unfortunately, the marksmanship. So exactly what is the performance guarantee? Is it qualitative? Something like with good marksmanship, Center X ammo, a reasonable scope and scope mount, and stable support a Vudoo is capable of superior reliability and superb accuracy. Superb accuracy being undefined since it is in the eye of the beholder.

In the context of a weapon system what is your thinking on bedding? Vudoo sells complete rifles with stocks. Is the action bedded in these rifles? Or is bedding much ado about, if not nothing, very little.

Many thanks for your enlightening posts.

Rick

 

[Kadams1563]

So there is a Gen II V22 action? Is it changes more then the fire control?

I have a Gen 1 I guess without the cone breach and have been thinking of getting it changed. I only shoot suppressed and I always screw up and tilt the rifle up even when trying to remember not to. This cause a bitch if trash down the barrel and stops the action from working.

so while it’s outgetting done what other upgrades can be done to the action and bolt to keep it up to date?

 

[littlepod]

ALERT: FILTER OFF.

Ok, it’s time to answer what has been another common question lately and that is, will Vudoo be offering pre-fit barrels. The answer is, adamantly, “No, we won’t be offering pre-fit barrels.” The follow-on question is, “is this because of the extractor cuts?” The answer is, “no, it has nothing to do with extractor cuts.”

So, why is this? If you look back at the very first post of this thread, you’ll see a rifle built in the lab that’s based on one of our first three actions. Looking at the initial posts overall, one might think I was testing the action, but in actuality, I was testing the entire process that was created to purposely offer consistency. There’s a reason the action is designed the way it is, there’s a reason the chamber is designed the way it is, there’s a reason we’re so picky about the barrels we offer, and it’s because we have a very tight approach to controlling every possible variable. This is why the very first shots out of that rifle in the first post created such a tight first five shot group and that’s why I initially built nine rifles the same way using seven of them at the NRA World Championships in 2017 in place of Anschutz (at the invite of Lapua). That’s how we rolled this thing out and we’ve been invited back every year since to participate with Lapua and it’s been amazing. Well over five thousand rounds downrange with no reason to clean or maintain rifles and consistently engage targets out to 485 yards with Center X.

Parallel to this, we initially thought it might be a good idea to offer stand-alone actions for others to barrel but we quickly found out that others don’t control the variables very well. Aside from @flatland1 and GA Precision, we had to re-barrel most every stand-alone action (there might be one or two I’m not remembering and I want to be fair in this post) we sold because the end product didn’t match how we believe the rifles should’ve performed. So, we stopped selling stand-alone actions (except to those few that have knocked it out of the park) and we don’t do marking variances for those just wanting to capitalize on the shooting community. It’s just that simple and it’s proven everyday in various posts in this Rimfire forum.

Another follow-on question is, “well, if your process is so tight and the extractor cuts don’t keep you from making pre-fits, why don’t you do pre-fits?” Very simple, we have to look you in the eye and tell you your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. That means, if we develop the data by shooting your rifle ourselves, we won’t be lying to you by saying your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. Again, very simple. This is all part of our “Satisfaction Guarantee,” and it’s also why we don’t offer some ridiculous “accuracy guarantee.”

I hope this clears it up and as always, keep reaching out with such good questions. We can tell you guys are thinking and you’re asking all the right questions....keep ‘em comin’....I also appreciate the latitude from you guys when I turn off the filter. ????

MB

Great post. Question - if I already have a R700 chassis, can I send it to you guys and order the BA/Trigger to be tested together? If people are just buying the BA, I am guessing you are mounting triggers and test shooting them to ensure the "complete" package works.

 

[phlegethon]

What’s the reason you don’t plan to offer complete benchrest rifles? It seems like it would be a smaller market than the repeater.

 

[jbell]

I'll take this.
Please send payment instructions
Semper Fi

ALERT: FILTER OFF.

Ok, it’s time to answer what has been another common question lately and that is, will Vudoo be offering pre-fit barrels. The answer is, adamantly, “No, we won’t be offering pre-fit barrels.” The follow-on question is, “is this because of the extractor cuts?” The answer is, “no, it has nothing to do with extractor cuts.”

So, why is this? If you look back at the very first post of this thread, you’ll see a rifle built in the lab that’s based on one of our first three actions. Looking at the initial posts overall, one might think I was testing the action, but in actuality, I was testing the entire process that was created to purposely offer consistency. There’s a reason the action is designed the way it is, there’s a reason the chamber is designed the way it is, there’s a reason we’re so picky about the barrels we offer, and it’s because we have a very tight approach to controlling every possible variable. This is why the very first shots out of that rifle in the first post created such a tight first five shot group and there’s a reason I initially built nine rifles the same way and used seven of them at the NRA World Championships in 2017 in place of Anschutz (at the invite of Lapua). That’s how we rolled this thing out and it’s been amazing ever since.

Parallel to this, we initially thought it might be a good idea to offer stand-alone actions for others to barrel but we quickly found out that others don’t control the variables very well. Aside from @flatland1 and GA Precision, we had to re-barrel most every stand-alone action (there might be one or two I’m not remembering and I want to be fair in this post) we sold because the end product didn’t match how we believe the rifles should’ve performed. So, we stopped selling stand-alone actions (except to those few that have knocked it out of the park) and we don’t do marking variances for those just wanting to capitalize on the shooting community. It’s just that simple and it’s proven everyday in various posts in this Rimfire forum.

Another follow-on question is, “well, if your process is so tight and the extractor cuts don’t keep you from making pre-fits, why don’t you do pre-fits?” Very simple, we have to look you in the eye and tell you your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. That means, if we develop the data by shooting your rifle ourselves, we won’t be lying to you by saying your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. Again, very simple. This is all part of our “Satisfaction Guarantee,” and it’s also why we don’t offer some ridiculous “accuracy guarantee.”

I hope this clears it up and as always, keep reaching out with such good questions. We can tell you guys are thinking and you’re asking all the right questions....keep ‘em comin’....I also appreciate the latitude from you guys when I turn off the filter. ????

MB

And this is exactly why I personally have ZERO interest in any other rimfire option out there. Yes I just sold a unicorn rifle (my 1827B Anschutz barreled by Mark Penrod & stocked / bedded by me), but this was one out of no joke a small truck load of factory, & custom Anschutz and custom action rimfire rifles I have owned. Only one was able to match the performance of 2 Vudoo rifles I have personally owned and my brothers rifle never mind all the ones on the 6X5.
Then add to the customer service given by Vudoo Gun Works and you can’t ask for more IMO.

 

[phlegethon]

And this is exactly why I personally have ZERO interest in any other rimfire option out there. Yes I just sold a unicorn rifle (my 1827B Anschutz barreled by Mark Penrod & stocked / bedded by me), but this was one out of no joke a small truck load of factory, & custom Anschutz and custom action rimfire rifles I have owned. Only one was able to match the performance of 2 Vudoo rifles I have personally owned and my brothers rifle never mind all the ones on the 6X5.
Then add to the customer service given by Vudoo Gun Works and you can’t ask for more IMO.

And, to clarify my above question, this is why I’d love to be able to order a complete system based on the V-22S!

 

[rick137]

And this is exactly why I personally have ZERO interest in any other rimfire option out there. Yes I just sold a unicorn rifle (my 1827B Anschutz barreled by Mark Penrod & stocked / bedded by me), but this was one out of no joke a small truck load of factory, & custom Anschutz and custom action rimfire rifles I have owned. Only one was able to match the performance of 2 Vudoo rifles I have personally owned and my brothers rifle never mind all the ones on the 6X5.
Then add to the customer service given by Vudoo Gun Works and you can’t ask for more IMO.

JBell:

Only the action you desire. LOL

Rick

 

[chopit]

Shot a little this morning. Here is my steel at 200. The single at 1 oclock and 6 oclock were first 2 spotters then the rest of the box in the large group. I was just shooting as fast as i could so group could have been alot smaller. Center x 2mph wind.

 

[tatman3715]

Shot a little this morning. Here is my steel at 200. The single at 1 oclock and 6 oclock were first 2 spotters then the rest of the box in the large group. I was just shooting as fast as i could so group could have been alot smaller. Center x 2mph wind.

Nice shooting

 

[RAVAGE88]

Mike:

If I understand correctly, the Vudoo concept is only a weapon system has performance and that Vudoo has a performance guarantee. To me a weapon system includes all components of the rifle, rail, scope mount, scope, ammunition of course, support sub-system and last, often least unfortunately, the marksmanship. So exactly what is the performance guarantee? Is it qualitative? Something like with good marksmanship, Center X ammo, a reasonable scope and scope mount, and stable support a Vudoo is capable of superior reliability and superb accuracy. Superb accuracy being undefined since it is in the eye of the beholder.

In the context of a weapon system what is your thinking on bedding? Vudoo sells complete rifles with stocks. Is the action bedded in these rifles? Or is bedding much ado about, if not nothing, very little.

Many thanks for your enlightening posts.

Rick

Rick,
You're definitely on the right track here in regards to the "system" approach. Often times, the approach to R&D (aside from meaning Ripoff and Duplicate to many) is to focus on individual parts and then try to figure out how to make it work as a "system" or assembly. This is where variation is introduced and ultimately, the lack of an ability to precisely control the outcome.

Our Satisfaction Guarantee is very simple. If one isn't satisfied, call us and we "fix" it. We supply a shipping label via email, fix it and ship it back. "Satisfaction" covers a lot of things, this is why I think "accuracy guarantees" are stupid. What about all the other things you might not be "satisfied" with that fall outside "accuracy?" Again, it's that simple and it properly serves the shooting community in a humble and honest way.

Bedding is important and there are platforms I'd never ship without bedding them, but, given the studies, we don't bed rimfires we ship. There's many reasons this is the case, but we've shipped thousands of rifles that perform very well within our "Satisfaction Guarantee." Hope that answers your question and if not, please let me know and I'll take another run at it.

Thanks Rick!
MB

 

[RAVAGE88]

So there is a Gen II V22 action? Is it changes more then the fire control?

I have a Gen 1 I guess without the cone breach and have been thinking of getting it changed. I only shoot suppressed and I always screw up and tilt the rifle up even when trying to remember not to. This cause a bitch if trash down the barrel and stops the action from working.

so while it’s outgetting done what other upgrades can be done to the action and bolt to keep it up to date?

Yessir, the V-22M (Magnum) and it includes a new fire control system, anti-rotation feature for the bolt nose, articulated side bolt release, advanced technology in the receiver design and the approach to making the receiver. Other than the fire control (which we'll offer updates for on a temporary basis) none of these features are available for update in the Gen 1. These features were developed for the three lug single shot and since the design was in parallel to the Magnum action, the features were rolled into the V-22M

MB

 

[RAVAGE88]

What’s the reason you don’t plan to offer complete benchrest rifles? It seems like it would be a smaller market than the repeater.

Well, to revisit this, I've thought about it a lot over the last few days and maybe I'm on the fence at this point. Give me another week or so to think about the approach and it could be that I fall off on the side favoring the build and shipment of BR rifles.

Thanks Dude,
MB

 

[BB3]

ALERT: FILTER OFF.

Ok, it’s time to answer what has been another common question lately and that is, will Vudoo be offering pre-fit barrels. The answer is, adamantly, “No, we won’t be offering pre-fit barrels.” The follow-on question is, “is this because of the extractor cuts?” The answer is, “no, it has nothing to do with extractor cuts.”

So, why is this? If you look back at the very first post of this thread, you’ll see a rifle built in the lab that’s based on one of our first three actions. Looking at the initial posts overall, one might think I was testing the action, but in actuality, I was testing the entire process that was created to purposely offer consistency. There’s a reason the action is designed the way it is, there’s a reason the chamber is designed the way it is, there’s a reason we’re so picky about the barrels we offer, and it’s because we have a very tight approach to controlling every possible variable. This is why the very first shots out of that rifle in the first post created such a tight first five shot group and that’s why I initially built nine rifles the same way using seven of them at the NRA World Championships in 2017 in place of Anschutz (at the invite of Lapua). That’s how we rolled this thing out and we’ve been invited back every year since to participate with Lapua and it’s been amazing. Well over five thousand rounds downrange with no reason to clean or maintain rifles and consistently engage targets out to 485 yards with Center X.

Parallel to this, we initially thought it might be a good idea to offer stand-alone actions for others to barrel but we quickly found out that others don’t control the variables very well. Aside from @flatland1 and GA Precision, we had to re-barrel most every stand-alone action (there might be one or two I’m not remembering and I want to be fair in this post) we sold because the end product didn’t match how we believe the rifles should’ve performed. So, we stopped selling stand-alone actions (except to those few that have knocked it out of the park) and we don’t do marking variances for those just wanting to capitalize on the shooting community. It’s just that simple and it’s proven everyday in various posts in this Rimfire forum.

Another follow-on question is, “well, if your process is so tight and the extractor cuts don’t keep you from making pre-fits, why don’t you do pre-fits?” Very simple, we have to look you in the eye and tell you your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. That means, if we develop the data by shooting your rifle ourselves, we won’t be lying to you by saying your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. Again, very simple. This is all part of our “Satisfaction Guarantee,” and it’s also why we don’t offer some ridiculous “accuracy guarantee.”

I hope this clears it up and as always, keep reaching out with such good questions. We can tell you guys are thinking and you’re asking all the right questions....keep ‘em comin’....I also appreciate the latitude from you guys when I turn off the filter. ????

MB

Best thing I’ve read in all 4,446 post in this thread. A man that truly cares more about his product than the almighty dollar! Keep up the good work. IMO, it’s a shame that all American businesses aren’t built around this philosophy. Thanks for allowing us the opportunity to do business with a top notch team of professionals that actually answer phones and more importantly answer questions. And thanks for building a rifle that is category of its own. I look forward to my next VGW purchase.

 

[jbell]

You nailed it BB3

 

[tatman3715]

Well, too revisit this, I've thought about it a lot over the last few days and maybe I'm on the fence at this point. Give me another week or so to think about the approach and it could be that I fall off on the side favoring the build and shipment of BR rifles.

Thanks Dude,
MB

Can i help push you to the side that is "yes Build them"?

 

[RAVAGE88]

Can i help push you to the side that is "yes Build them"?

You just did....

MB

 

[Moose]

Shot a little this morning. Here is my steel at 200. The single at 1 oclock and 6 oclock were first 2 spotters then the rest of the box in the large group. I was just shooting as fast as i could so group could have been alot smaller. Center x 2mph wind.

Pretty good for 200 yds I would be happy with that.

 

[JCIII]

My PM’s with Mike, reading his posts and responses to both reasonable and unreasonable on here and RFC, talking with him and his team totally sold me on buying my v22. All of that had as big of an impact, if not more than the performance of the weapon itself. So to me, the “market“ is satisfied by VGW in general: the philosophy, the client care, the vision, etc.. Whatever they decided to build, I’m confident it would excel simply because of who they are, not just how good they are at it. THAT’S market fulfillment

Now, just let me know when I can preorder my mini cf action with 22”-24” proof or light tapered stainless barrel in .204 Ruger (or similar), carbon fiber stock, HIT trigger, 30 Moa rail etc for the ultralight coyote rifle I’ve been dreaming of since I got my V22.

 

[phlegethon]

My PM’s with Mike, reading his posts and responses to both reasonable and unreasonable on here and RFC, talking with him and his team totally sold me on buying my v22. All of that had as big of an impact, if not more than the performance of the weapon itself. So to me, the “market“ is satisfied by VGW in general: the philosophy, the client care, the vision, etc.. Whatever they decided to build, I’m confident it would excel simply because of who they are, not just how good they are at it. THAT’S market fulfillment.

This is also why I don’t really care who else enters the precision rimfire market. Honestly, I’d love to find a maker of centerfire actions with the kind of integrity and service we get from Vudoo.

 

[squirrel_slayer]

I have a wildcat that must might be right at home for the centerfire conversion.

My 22 Mamba a .223 variant case. 1.125" case length. 17.1gr H2O, Improved body, 30' shoulder, throating catered to VLD style bullets and 62k psi operating pressure.
40's at 3300+ from a 20.5" barrel, 53's just shy of 3000, can also seat 80+ for subsonic suppressed applications with proper barrel twist. Very mild report and versitle. 3.5gr of titegroup also does 2300 ft/sec with 40gr jhp(armscor) and 22lr quiet

L-R: 55gr seated 1.62" a 95gr smk seated long for giggles(throat wouldn't accept this but 1.75" yeah), and .223

QL also shows 2200+ ft/sec with 80's seated at 1.8" and 55k psi

I also may have a 17 Mamba reamer lying around and a little playing with my 24 Mamba reamer (this is based off a 1.75" case) and some pilots could make for a short 6mm

two center bullets are 6mm. a 58 vmax and 105 RDF
the 6mm would require neck reaming/turning as the reamer is spec'd for standard LC .223 brass neck thickness.

 

[JCIII]

This is also why I don’t really care who else enters the precision rimfire market. Honestly, I’d love to find a maker of centerfire actions with the kind of integrity and service we get from Vudoo.

Exactly brother, EXACTLY. I’ve got a safe full of combat shotguns, high end 1911’s, AR platforms A-Z, and I’d still liquidate some of those to buy new if VGW decided to go down any of those avenues. Until then, I’ll just hope for the small action centerfire build they’re eventually going to do for me

 

[drglock]

ALERT: FILTER OFF.

Ok, it’s time to answer what has been another common question lately and that is, will Vudoo be offering pre-fit barrels. The answer is, adamantly, “No, we won’t be offering pre-fit barrels.” The follow-on question is, “is this because of the extractor cuts?” The answer is, “no, it has nothing to do with extractor cuts.”

So, why is this? If you look back at the very first post of this thread, you’ll see a rifle built in the lab that’s based on one of our first three actions. Looking at the initial posts overall, one might think I was testing the action, but in actuality, I was testing the entire process that was created to purposely offer consistency. There’s a reason the action is designed the way it is, there’s a reason the chamber is designed the way it is, there’s a reason we’re so picky about the barrels we offer, and it’s because we have a very tight approach to controlling every possible variable. This is why the very first shots out of that rifle in the first post created such a tight first five shot group and that’s why I initially built nine rifles the same way using seven of them at the NRA World Championships in 2017 in place of Anschutz (at the invite of Lapua). That’s how we rolled this thing out and we’ve been invited back every year since to participate with Lapua and it’s been amazing. Well over five thousand rounds downrange with no reason to clean or maintain rifles and consistently engage targets out to 485 yards with Center X.

Parallel to this, we initially thought it might be a good idea to offer stand-alone actions for others to barrel but we quickly found out that others don’t control the variables very well. Aside from @flatland1 and GA Precision, we had to re-barrel most every stand-alone action (there might be one or two I’m not remembering and I want to be fair in this post) we sold because the end product didn’t match how we believe the rifles should’ve performed. So, we stopped selling stand-alone actions (except to those few that have knocked it out of the park) and we don’t do marking variances for those just wanting to capitalize on the shooting community. It’s just that simple and it’s proven everyday in various posts in this Rimfire forum.

Another follow-on question is, “well, if your process is so tight and the extractor cuts don’t keep you from making pre-fits, why don’t you do pre-fits?” Very simple, we have to look you in the eye and tell you your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. That means, if we develop the data by shooting your rifle ourselves, we won’t be lying to you by saying your rifle will knowingly perform at a level we can guarantee. Again, very simple. This is all part of our “Satisfaction Guarantee,” and it’s also why we don’t offer some ridiculous “accuracy guarantee.”

I hope this clears it up and as always, keep reaching out with such good questions. We can tell you guys are thinking and you’re asking all the right questions....keep ‘em comin’....I also appreciate the latitude from you guys when I turn off the filter. ????

MB

I don’t own a Vudoo and I may never own one but it won’t be because I don’t want one. With that being said this Saturday serval of us that shoot 22 NRL matches meet up at a buddies house for some informal practice. Ended up being 7 of us showing up. Between us we had one Vudoo, two Cz 455’s, one savage and three Cz 457’s and several of them will really shoot but not on par with the Vudoo. The topic of all the new actions coming out got all of us talking with several stating they want to get the new RimX . The discussion went on for awhile and I told them that I’d still get the Vudoo. They asked why and I told them with Vudoo your more than just getting a great action but your getting a great rifle, they know what it takes to make one of the most accurate 22’s out there and everyone else is behind the curve. Like I said I don’t own one but have shot my buddies several times and my Cz 457 with a Lilja shoots really good but it doesn’t hold a candle to at least the Vudoo I’ve shot.

 

[D_TROS]

wow

Good read.

No way to make the 3 lug a repeater??


Regards
DT

 

[Tree]

wow

Good read.

No way to make the 3 lug a repeater??


Regards
DT

I would buy one of those for sure.

 

[RAVAGE88]

Here we go Boys....

This is the new Crescent Impact that's part of the Gen 2 Fire Control. I did not invent this, but I adapted the concept to the Vudoo system as part of all the things that make up the Gen 2 Fire Control. As you can see, I'm no longer striking across the case rim, but inside it. Data indicates more consistent ignition based on ES within the same lot. The testing was performed in the same barreled action, just swapping one Gen 2 Fire Control that struck across the rim for a Gen 2 Fire Control with this new (for us) Crescent Impact.

MB

 

[ta6ppc]

Here we go Boys....

This is the new Crescent Impact that's part of the Gen 2 Fire Control. I did not invent this, but I adapted the concept to the Vudoo system as part of all the things that make up the Gen 2 Fire Control. As you can see, I'm no longer striking across the case rim, but inside it. Data indicates more consistent ignition based on ES within the same lot. The testing was performed in the same barreled action, just swapping one Gen 2 Fire Control that struck across the rim for a Gen 2 Fire Control with this new (for us) Crescent Impact.

MB

Mike, you better be ready to modify the older versions, and or have a kit available for that style firing pin!!
vudoo is gonna have to grow and run 24/7 with all this new innovations y’all are doing!
Awesome!!
I can’t wait to see what’s next, and thank you for sharing your progress and ideas it’s truly motivating!

 

[eldritch]

Now, just let me know when I can preorder my mini cf action with 22”-24” proof or light tapered stainless barrel in .204 Ruger (or similar), carbon fiber stock, HIT trigger, 30 Moa rail etc for the ultralight coyote rifle I’ve been dreaming of since I got my V22.

I would LOVE a mini centerfire done Vudoo style. It would be great to see someone make a PROPER functioning 20 Vartarg REPEATER!! That cartridge ticks a lot of boxes in my amateur opinion: easy to make brass whether from .223 or .221 Fireball, is a SHORT round, rimless, very efficient, shoots fast, good barrel life, minimal recoil... I can dream, right?!

 

[RAVAGE88]

Mike, you better be ready to modify the older versions, and or have a kit available for that style firing pin!!
vudoo is gonna have to grow and run 24/7 with all this new innovations y’all are doing!
Awesome!!
I can’t wait to see what’s next, and thank you for sharing your progress and ideas it’s truly motivating!

You ain't kiddin. We're gettin it done and you're describing the exact reason I was up and going for 38 hours straight over the weekend. Be a few more of those days prior to SHOT.

MB

 

[10ring1]

Well, to revisit this, I've thought about it a lot over the last few days and maybe I'm on the fence at this point. Give me another week or so to think about the approach and it could be that I fall off on the side favoring the build and shipment of BR rifles.

Thanks Dude,
MB

Full-on Vudoo produced rifles hammering at benchrest matches (as I am certain they will) would bring the full well-deserved recognition. Not that the barreled action wouldnt, bring recognition alone, but all the rightfully deserved credit will go to Vudoo mfg if it was shipped as a complete rifle (rather than a long description Ie. Vudoo barreled action, stock by xxx, bedding by xxx, smithwork by xxx , and so on). IMO anyway

 

[10ring1]

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[10ring1]

@RAVAGE88

I would like to add my personal experience with Vudoo.

This is “why” I have chosen a Vudoo for both my wife’s and my rimfire rifles (besides the accuracy of the rifle)

When I was looking to get a rifle so my wife and I could shoot together I looked to Vudoo because of the great customer service they had provide me previously.

My wife is a southpaw, in addition she has shoulder/arm issues which prevents her from using a “heavy” rifle.

After talking at length on the phone with the Vudoo team (Thank you Greg) they recommended I go with a Ravage in the 18” configuration. So I ordered one.

When it arrived I was a little worried as it seemed to be on the”heavy “ side for what I thought she needed. Low and behold it was. (Shit now what to do, I just purchased a rifle that she can’t use.?

I called them to discuss my dilemma. As they have been each and every time I talked with them (Jill is outstanding) they told me they would discuss it as a team and get back to me.

Next day I get the call back. We discussed differences in stock/barrel weights and whether or not I thought any of the options would help. This is were I brought up their All Composite Stock (all carbon fiber and stupid light) also known as the Black Magic. They were initially hesitant to bring this stock up due to the cost of this stock (they have never once tried to up sell me). After some further discussion they told me “just send the rifle back and we will give you a full credit toward her other rifle. This astonished me. Who would have thought they would take it back no questions asked.

I am now the owner of 2 of their rifles and will be purchasing a third very soon. They are outstanding at putting their customers first and go out of there way to help.

Thanks for listening ?. Oh and here is my wife’s rifle (wish it was mine). ?

Will you marry me? That is an awesome rife. This is the model I have been eyeing next. Do you have an estimated wt with optics set up just as it is?

 

[Tree]

Will you marry me?

Nope one lady in my life is enough. ???

 

[10ring1]

Here we go Boys....

This is the new Crescent Impact that's part of the Gen 2 Fire Control. I did not invent this, but I adapted the concept to the Vudoo system as part of all the things that make up the Gen 2 Fire Control. As you can see, I'm no longer striking across the case rim, but inside it. Data indicates more consistent ignition based on ES within the same lot. The testing was performed in the same barreled action, just swapping one Gen 2 Fire Control that struck across the rim for a Gen 2 Fire Control with this new (for us) Crescent Impact.

MB

I'm no expert but has anyone every talked about/created a full rim strike. Complete 360 punch to reduce any chance of round moving with the strike.

 

[10ring1]

You ain't kiddin. We're gettin it done and you're describing the exact reason I was up and going for 38 hours straight over the weekend. Be a few more of those days prior to SHOT.

MB

Healthcare is my game and sleep is the milk that holds the cereal together. Gotta take care of youself too.

 

[10ring1]

Nope one lady in my life is enough. ???

Do you happen to have a total weight of the rifle as pictured? This model is top of my short list.

 

[Tree]

I do not but will try to get. Ex scope rings and bipod it was under 7lbs.

 

[AMTGMC]

This is also why I don’t really care who else enters the precision rimfire market. Honestly, I’d love to find a maker of centerfire actions with the kind of integrity and service we get from Vudoo.

Have to wait a little longer but from reading the Hoplite Arms thread it looks promising for centerfire.

 

[ta6ppc]

I'm no expert but has anyone every talked about/created a full rim strike. Complete 360 punch to reduce any chance of round moving with the strike.

I’m just theorizing here but I bet your firing pin spring rate would have to be so much that it will create a hard or heavy bolt lift.

 

[Sieg]

Keep that pedal pinned @RAVAGE88

Proud to be part of the Vudoo Alumni.

 

[10ring1]

I do not but will try to get. Ex scope rings and bipod it was under 7lbs.

Do you/she shoot Nrl22 style with it? Just curious how the light profile does on barricades compared to the heavier counterpart. Really would like to try one for the feel and handling but value your experience

 

[Tree]

Do you/she shoot Nrl22 style with it? Just curious how the light profile does on barricades compared to the heavier counterpart. Really would like to try one for the feel and handling but value your experience

It has not yet been used in a match. I have tested the balance. It isn’t perfect as it is still a little rear heavy. (Just slightly). It has an 18” carbon fiber proof barrel as well so could get a little better with either a longer carbon fiber barrel or a standard barrel.

Hope to get her out shooting it once this cold weather goes away.

 

[Tree]

Mobility with it is amazing though. Would really shine moving between positions.

 

[RAVAGE88]

No way to make the 3 lug a repeater??

That would be pure silliness....

MB

 

[samb300]

That would be pure silliness....

MB

I’m waiting patiently for a 60deg Vudoo to pair with my AI...

Mike, I appreciate your openness and willingness to share technical details on the development of your awesome rifles. I believe the other companies out there will be playing catch up for a long time as they try to replicate the system you have worked hard to create. Many of the others look the same, but won’t be the total package that a Vudoo is out of the box. And I have zero desire for a switch bolt/barrel rimfire when you provide an action and barrel that will shoot better and last a lifetime.

 

[RAVAGE88]

I’m waiting patiently for a 60deg Vudoo to pair with my AI...

Mike, I appreciate your openness and willingness to share technical details on the development of your awesome rifles. I believe the other companies out there will be playing catch up for a long time as they try to replicate the system you have worked hard to create. Many of the others look the same, but won’t be the total package that a Vudoo is out of the box. And I have zero desire for a switch bolt/barrel rimfire when you provide an action and barrel that will shoot better and last a lifetime.

Thanks Dude, very much appreciated.

MB

 

[RAVAGE88]

My PM’s with Mike, reading his posts and responses to both reasonable and unreasonable on here and RFC, talking with him and his team totally sold me on buying my v22. All of that had as big of an impact, if not more than the performance of the weapon itself. So to me, the “market“ is satisfied by VGW in general: the philosophy, the client care, the vision, etc.. Whatever they decided to build, I’m confident it would excel simply because of who they are, not just how good they are at it. THAT’S market fulfillment

Now, just let me know when I can preorder my mini cf action with 22”-24” proof or light tapered stainless barrel in .204 Ruger (or similar), carbon fiber stock, HIT trigger, 30 Moa rail etc for the ultralight coyote rifle I’ve been dreaming of since I got my V22.

Thank you JC, very much appreciated.

MB

 

[RAVAGE88]

Keep that pedal pinned @RAVAGE88

Proud to be part of the Vudoo Alumni.

Thanks Sieg! We’re glad you’re a part of it....

MB

 

[RAVAGE88]

Healthcare is my game and sleep is the milk that holds the cereal together. Gotta take care of youself too.

Yep, I’m gettin it from all sides lately so I’ll have to start slowing it down a little.

MB

 

[Sieg]

Thanks Sieg! We’re glad you’re a part of it....

MB

It has been a true pleasure watching the consumer enthusiasm and value grow and the Vudoo Team supporting it with (IMO) the best customer service the industry may have ever seen.

Thank you very much.