Re: WARNING ~ TR ~ My experience
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeo556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So your admitting that the rifle & smith are shit? </div></div>
This whole shit storm is because most read, want was never there in the first place, based upon their predetermined opinion.
Show me where I backed TR anywhere here, or other places,... ever? I was looking for the true story, not the one most were basing their key strokes on.
Looking at a video means nothing to me, I've seen sticks that were 200% eye candy that would not hit a bull in the ass at 100yds no matter who was driving it. Then I've also seen an owned a $600.00 POS that would drill with a half ass monkey like me driving it. </div></div>
Wait, lets keep some consistency on what your issue is here.
Apparently in the world of gunfighter, anyone reading this forum to learn about shooting is a cheeto eating ass clown, or some such. Yes, that means you.
Apparently in the world of gunfighter, the fact that someone takes time to get to a point where they discover there are real issues with a platform, means that the issues arent there, or are the fault of the end-user. Apparently, either you discover them in thousands of rounds in the first month, or you and your stick are shit, and you really cant complain about anything anyway, so dont bother.
Apparently in the world of gunfighter, who says "who needs a video, what happened to the word of the smith being good enough", out of the other side of his mouth, apparently a video is also useless because he can only see the cosmetics and the word of the highly regarded smith in the video explaining why what is being shown is a problem is not good enough?!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This whole shit storm is because most read, want was never there in the first place, based upon their predetermined opinion.</div></div>
This, is where reading comprehension come into play. Shit storm stage 1 was because of shit work in the first place. Shit storm stage 2 was because of the way the customer was treated. Shit storm stage 3 was because a surrogate was sent in public and attempted to use deceit to blame the customer and the rifle and refute the issue, including lying about what he had done with other rifles by the same maker. He was later outed. Shit storm stage 4 was because LL got harassed with empty threats, etc, by legal counsel who apparently did not advise their client that its only actionable in the US when its a lie.
And the last two pages of this has been because a high post count guy who has been around in this community a long time got a bug up his ass, and decided to pontificate that the audience on this site are assholes. That none of us are apparently as qualified as he is to express our opinions. That this entire site has gone down hill because people are astounded at the initial quality issues and subsequent behavior of a surrogate in this thread. And that his way is the only possible way that anyone should ever be allowed to express dissent or to share thier experience of a poorly crafted rifle.
Because, as we now know, if you arent like gunfighter, going out every day and putting bullets through your gun (you know, because you work, have a life, have a family, and this is a hobby) you apparently are not worth having around to ask questions or share what experience you have come into contact with. Or to make observations on what you are seeing and your reaction to it.
Here is the deal. Yes the OP had an agenda. They apparently felt poorly treated. they felt like they had exhausted thier options for the manufacture to do what the OP thought was making it right.
So they decided to give TR some bad press in this community. Backed up by a video filmed by a known and respected gunsmith. Who themselves confirmed the authenticity of the video in this thread and indicated that they didn't mean for it to get out, that it was intended as confirming evidence to support the services that he was quoting the customer to fix the problem.
Should we keep an open mind and judge for ourselves? Absolutely. Agree with you. But that's not what you said or how you said it, and a lot of the content in this thread really is other people noticing what was going on and commenting on what they were seeing with thier own eyes. A questionable guy with no past getting on and pretending to be just another guy. That we were able to prove were linked with the company at issue.
And in this case, the conduct of the company at issue speaks for itself, in terms of both the legal attempt at intimidation to get the content removed, as well as the use of a surrogate and their deceit.
