Rifle Scopes Weaver's 1-5x24 Illuminated Tactical Scope

#3
Re: Weaver's 1-5x24 Illuminated Tactical Scope

I have had the opputunity to handle and go over this scope quite a bit. Weaver put a nice scope together and kept it at a very good price. Overall contruction is pretty solid. The Turrets had nice clean and solid clicks. The illuminated reticle was interesting in that it had both a red and green illumination and both did not seem to bleed thru and kept a nice sharp line on the reticle at varying distances and backgrounds. The Rheostat made it simple and easy to move through the levels and colors. This model does tend to burn thru the batteries quicker so weaver made the Turret tops into a small storage capacity for one additional CR2032 battery in each. The FFP reticle was not overly complex as others and is simple for newer shooters as well as can be useful for more advanced shooters. The glass gave a sharp and bright image for the conditions that day, mostly sunny. At about 100-200 yards I noticed no chromatic abberation while looking at a target, vegetaition, and a red brick wall.

Overall I was pleased with the quality of this scoep for the price. Weaver did a nice job with this scope.

Trevor B
OpticsPlanet
 
#4
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crowsniper1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warranty: Limited lifetime factory warranty
Not good enough,in my opinion. </div></div>

What better warranty do you think your going to get? For the life of the scope if it has a failure you send it to Weaver and they repair or replace it.
 
#6
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone had a chance to use one of these yet? At $600 I hope Weaver starts to shake up some of our primma donna scope manufacturers who now charging rediculous prices for their scopes.


http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=168838
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That price is closer to $700 than $600. For a little more I'd recommend the SS 1-5X24 HD. It has matching mil/mil and a better reticle design. I've got one and they are great scopes that can give the high end scopes a run for their (over priced) money.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P48362.aspx
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">very intrigueing, but i can get a Mark4 MR/T 1.5-5X20 30mm for $654 from promotive.com, whats the better scope? </div></div>

I would say you can't really compare given that the Leupold is a 1.5 power and the Weaver is 1 power. This might sound like I`m splitting hairs but a 1 power with illuminated reticle is best for CQB.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont do alot of CQB with my personal guns........ </div></div>

The competition equivalent of CQB.
 
#11
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">very intrigueing, but i can get a Mark4 MR/T 1.5-5X20 30mm for $654 from promotive.com, whats the better scope? </div></div>

I would say you can't really compare given that the Leupold is a 1.5 power and the Weaver is 1 power. This might sound like I`m splitting hairs but a 1 power with illuminated reticle is best for CQB. </div></div>
The closer to 1 the better, I have not seen the lupy at 1.5 as some people say it is "close" to parallax free and others say it is not. The new Weaver line looks promising, as some have mentioned about the MIL/MOA most time outside of zeroing no one touches the turrets for a 1-4, or 1-5 power optics. In fact I would almost rather have enclosed turrets. But that is just my preference, as in my experience my M4 w/optics gets the shit beat out of it more than anything.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That price is closer to $700 than $600. For a little more I'd recommend the SS 1-<span style="font-weight: bold">5</span>X24 HD. It has matching mil/mil and a better reticle design. I've got one and they are great scopes that can give the high end scopes a run for their (over priced) money.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P48362.aspx </div></div>

The SWFA SS 1-4x HD is a 1-4x scope, not a 1-5x like the Weaver. I know the reticle on the SS is better. A less than great reticle, and poor battery life are some of the issues I see with the Weaver scope. Despite that, I think I'll pick one up eventually.
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crowsniper1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warranty: Limited lifetime factory warranty
Not good enough,in my opinion. </div></div>

What better warranty do you think your going to get? For the life of the scope if it has a failure you send it to Weaver and they repair or replace it. </div></div>What if the scope was bought second hand and you dont have a receipt to send in with it? They might take care of it who knows,the way i look at it ,it's either full lifetime or it's going to be problems when one is sent in for a repair.I hope they have a good warranty,i have two weaver classic extreme scopes that im going to be using this summer and fall,so we will see what there made of.I did buy both used also.
 
#15
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">very intrigueing, but i can get a Mark4 MR/T 1.5-5X20 30mm for $654 from promotive.com, whats the better scope? </div></div>

I would say you can't really compare given that the Leupold is a 1.5 power and the Weaver is 1 power. This might sound like I`m splitting hairs but a 1 power with illuminated reticle is best for CQB. </div></div>

I have a Leupold MRT 1.5-5 illuminated that I used in Baghdad. Worked great for CQB for me.
 
#17
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Does anyone have any info as to how or why they chose the reticle subtensions for the BDC?

If you break it out for .223 loads and Weaver's suggestion of a 200yd zero, the hold points in order are approx. 300, 500, and 650ish.

It seems that other BDC's give you smaller breakdowns for the hold points that are more useful.
 
#18
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One thing I dont like about it is that it weights a ton! That suckers over 20 oz's thats a really heavy scope in my opinion for a 1-5x24
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snape315</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That price is closer to $700 than $600. For a little more I'd recommend the SS 1-<span style="font-weight: bold">5</span>X24 HD. It has matching mil/mil and a better reticle design. I've got one and they are great scopes that can give the high end scopes a run for their (over priced) money.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-4x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P48362.aspx </div></div>

The SWFA SS 1-4x HD is a 1-4x scope, not a 1-5x like the Weaver. I know the reticle on the SS is better. A less than great reticle, and poor battery life are some of the issues I see with the Weaver scope. Despite that, I think I'll pick one up eventually. </div></div>

Is the 1X higher power your deciding factor? There is not much difference and while I have not seen the Weaver I know the SS HD glass is crystal clear and enables me to shoot the 5.56 to it's practical limits.Personally I'll take better glass and reticle design over an extra 1X in magnification. But your nickle your choice. Good luck

Five shots at 700 yards using a standard Colt 16" M4 carbine, SWFA SS 1-4X24 HD scope and 75 grain Hornady handloads.
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#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We are getting a small shipment of these in early next week, I'll see if there is a reticle breakdown in the manual..

Scott </div></div>

There is a reticle breakdown on Weaver's website.

CIRT Reticle Detail
 
#23
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Scott,

Depending on the load the top of the post and the three hash marks correspond to roughly 300, 500, 675, 900.

I was thinking that those ranges were fairly spread out and either the holds needed to be chosen differently or more hold lines would prove more useful. I think I prefer either straight up mil subtensions for the holds or IOR and Burris' bdc's that have a hold every 100 meters.
 
#24
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The reticle... Either im misunderstanding something or someone was asleep when they designed it. If its talking about range finding/bracketing a mans shoulders (like a ACOG TA01 reticle) then yardage marks are B=370yd, C=463yd, and D=556yd (based on line width given in mils and 20" target). Given those distances the only round that is going to match up with that range finding reticle is a varmint round (BC of about 0.15) out of a 14.5" barrel. If you ignore the range finding part and use them as holdovers, you end up with a huge spread as mentioned before (M855 out of a 14.5" barrel from their own spec sheet is going to give you A=320yd, B=460yd, C=610yd, D=760yd).
Correct me if im wrong.
Also its weight is a misprint. Instead of 27oz it should read 14oz. If you see on their website they just mixed up the 3-15 and the 1-5 weights (i called and asked to verify this).
 
#26
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lmbrjck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The reticle... Either im misunderstanding something or someone was asleep when they designed it. If its talking about range finding/bracketing a mans shoulders (like a ACOG TA01 reticle) then yardage marks are B=370yd, C=463yd, and D=556yd (based on line width given in mils and 20" target). Given those distances the only round that is going to match up with that range finding reticle is a varmint round (BC of about 0.15) out of a 14.5" barrel. If you ignore the range finding part and use them as holdovers, you end up with a huge spread as mentioned before (M855 out of a 14.5" barrel from their own spec sheet is going to give you A=320yd, B=460yd, C=610yd, D=760yd).
Correct me if im wrong.
</div></div>

Well that is indeed odd. Are we all in agreement on this?

Scott
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it make for sense of the drop numbers on the reticle were actually moa? Although based on the 400 yard silhouette illustration I bet I'm wrong...

Scott </div></div>

I agree it's odd, but it is the same subtensions that Leupold uses in its SPR reticle.

I can see the use for the human silhouette but it limits the effectiveness on other target/sizes.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smokshwn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree it's odd, but it is the same subtensions that Leupold uses in its SPR reticle. </div></div>

Not exactly. I can make some sense out of the SPR reticle atleast. Below is a link with some details on the SPR. http://www.opticsplanet.net/printable-leupold-mark4-15-5x20mm-pr-rifle-scopes.html

The leupold SPR reticle is calibrated for a 62gr bullet and the drops are 350, 550, 650, 750, and 850.
 
#31
Re: Weaver's 1-5x24 Illuminated Tactical Scope

Here's a scan of the ballistic chart that's inside the box.

weaver1-5chart.jpg
 
#32
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I just got one of these in..

I ran the numbers and using a 200 yard zero the tip of the vertical stradia is 350 yards and the next horizontal line down is 500 yards.

This is running a 77g OTM 5.56 load at 2775 FPS

initial impressions are good
need to wring it out this weekend at long range and a 3 gun event
 
#36
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Wow; fantatsic; having retailers weighing in on this.

I have a bit of a bug about the Tasco VAR624X42M Varmint/Target scope. I tend to like them way out of proportion to their cost. With four of them on varying rifles over a handful of years, I've found them to be pretty good entry level scopes. i use them for applications where many, myself included, would expect to be disappointed, but so far, no disappointments.

So far, the only real shortcoming I've noticed is more limited image brightness than average under dim light conditions.

Does this experience square with custmers' feedback, and would any of the above professional care to comment on their cost vs quality?

Greg
 
#38
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: winxp_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing I dont like about it is that it weights a ton! That suckers over 20 oz's thats a really heavy scope in my opinion for a 1-5x24 </div></div>

Actual weight is only <span style="font-weight: bold">17.8oz</span>
 
#39
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Maybe I'm late on this. I was looking at this for my AR. With the info I put into my Ballistic comp, I got these at almost 100yd yardage marks. This what I got.

M855 62gr
BC 0.158
Drag model G1
Muzzle velocity 3100 fps
zero range 200 yds
sight height 2.5 inches

when I use this data these were close to 100 yd increments

300yds = 0.97 (post 1 mil)
405yds = 2.57 (2nd line 2.6 mils)
505yds = 4.85 (3rd line 4.9 mils)
605yds = 7.95 (4th line 8.0 mils)

Not exact but close to 100 yards increments, unless I did something wrong...
 
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