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Crimping is a pita… has to be done with a separate Crimp die. Among other things. But darn are they accurate! Tiny 2.7 grain of bullseye. And then 1 hole groups all day long!So what is the problem with the wad cutters?
Holding them?
2.7gr seems crazy low.C
Crimping is a pita… has to be done with a separate Crimp die. Among other things. But darn are they accurate! Tiny 2.7 grain of bullseye. And then 1 hole groups all day long!
i think you'd really like it! more info here WITH videos of it in action www.epintegrations.comI'm in the same boat. Not sure what to do. Rice seems best for the necks, but it barely makes a dent in suppressed sludge.
I'm thinking I may do this:
1. 30 minutes wet tumble with dawn and lemishine (no pins)
2. lube (imperial), size, mandrel
3. trim every firing (remove neck burr)
4. rice tumble
5. prime
6. charge
7. seat
I need an annealer, I suppose that would go in between step 1 & 2. Thinking of something cheap for now like the EP annealer.
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Crimping is a pita… has to be done with a separate Crimp die. Among other things. But darn are they accurate! Tiny 2.7 grain of bullseye. And then 1 hole groups all day long!
It s a special load for a special target gun. Gun, load, etc are designed for each other.2.7gr seems crazy low.
I think my 9mm plinking loads are 4gr of Bullseye, and I know they’re on the low end of load data.
I load for my freinds 52 he bought from his Grandfather. It is a real joy to shoot. Neither of us shoot bullseye but hitting 8" plates out o 50 yards with boring regularity is a hoot! Its a beautiful piece of functional art.It s a special load for a special target gun. Gun, load, etc are designed for each other.
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As Bullet says above… it cycles the action and is basically designed for 50 foot bullseye shooting. The WC flat nose bullet makes perfect round holes in paper. Also good for practicing on plates!
Cheers, Sirhr
Which one are you getting? I run an Apex on an autodrive, and once you get it humming, it is spectacular.Hopefully next week will be a lot of “what did you do today” posts.
Which one are you getting? I run an Apex on an autodrive, and once you get it humming, it is spectacular.
The one piece of advice I would give is to use it run by hand for a week or so because you can feel when things are going sideways, and then tune them. If you are getting a Revolution, I don't know anything about those. If you are getting an Evolution, you'll really want to switch the priming to the new Apex system, which is miles better. Also the casefeeder is no longer a Hornady on the Apex.
If you have any questions about what might be getting you hung up and how to fix it, feel free to DM or tag me. It's a slightly complicated system, but when firing on all cylinders, it really works well. Tech support is also really good.
Apex is awesome. Some people have bitched about the fact they went to a cast toolhead, but I don't see that being an issue, especially when you look at the really good new casefeeder and the awesome priming system.Thanks. Getting Apex. But seems like revolution is the only pics around.
Which one are you getting? I run an Apex on an autodrive, and once you get it humming, it is spectacular.
The one piece of advice I would give is to use it run by hand for a week or so because you can feel when things are going sideways, and then tune them. If you are getting a Revolution, I don't know anything about those. If you are getting an Evolution, you'll really want to switch the priming to the new Apex system, which is miles better. Also the casefeeder is no longer a Hornady on the Apex.
If you have any questions about what might be getting you hung up and how to fix it, feel free to DM or tag me. It's a slightly complicated system, but when firing on all cylinders, it really works well. Tech support is also really good.
I use a 650 with a Dillon crimp die for .38 wc in a 52-2, seems to work alright.Crimping is a pita… has to be done with a separate Crimp die.
2.7 of bullseye is exactly what I load lol.But darn are they accurate! Tiny 2.7 grain of bullseye.
if you are using an autodrive, you just mount it to the autodrive base. It is plenty heavy to be stable on a good bench. If you are not using an autodrive, it comes with bench mount hardware. It's four bolts, slightly larger than the Dillons. You don't want to go higher, like on an Inline mount, with it.How did you mount yours?
Two other things come to mind. First, if you have never used an autodrive before, it is imperative that you back all of your dies off the shellplate. Each time you start the autodrive, you calibrate it, and if your dies are touching the shellplate, it will calibrate to short stroke. Just back them off a turn and a half or so. Second, you ideally are going to want to use the Lyman Pro Die pack. First because there is a separate case expansion station, and the Lyman expansion die is great, and second because they are built to be run slightly off the shellplate, and say so in the instructions.How did you mount yours?
Well I emptied my powder thrower of some residual powder I had in it from a long session into about half a pound of R15, the powder in the thrower was BL-C2.
Feels bad.
Been loading nothing but R15 for the last few months until this last session using BL-C2 working up a load for a friends rifle.
Yeah I have a system of whatever powder I'm using being out front and all others behind. It's so easy to forget that you were just doing a little of one thing when you are used to doing another and end up mixing them up or mixing them together.One powder on the bench at a time.
Keep the container next to the measure.
Well I emptied my powder thrower of some residual powder I had in it from a long session into about half a pound of R15, the powder in the thrower was BL-C2.
Feels bad.
Been loading nothing but R15 for the last few months until this last session using BL-C2 working up a load for a friends rifle.
That’s why you put a label on the dispenser
Meh... roll with it. Blended powders in the new hotness. You just have a ball powder version of n150 that'
Meh... roll with it. Blended powders in the new hotness. You just have a ball powder version of n150 that's all
Thats usually what I do but I broke protocol leaving the rl15 out while using blc2. Was going to use the RL15 for next session. Was.I keep all my powders stored in a cabinet.
One out at a time and always right beside the powder measure.
Gets put away when the measure is emptied.
Powders are separated in the cabinet by brand first and left to right by burn rate.
And that's how it happens right there. It's happened to so many of us.... at least you didn't dump it in 7lbs of a jug of something....Thats usually what I do but I broke protocol leaving the rl15 out while using blc2. Was going to use the RL15 for next session. Was.
Thanks for posting the pics. I've got a pile of the 124MPR and 2-3k of the 115s too. I want to say my loads were similar velocity, so great info. Love the GDs but the MPRs are great deal.Shot about 50rds in testing to ensure everything was expanding properly.
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Finished up 1000 .38 Special WC's for the Smith 52.
Damn those things are a pita...
Sirhr
So what is the problem with the wad cutters?
Holding them?
2.7gr seems crazy low.
I think my 9mm plinking loads are 4gr of Bullseye, and I know they’re on the low end of load data.
It's in the name 22.3grs.
Just kidding. I don't use CFE223 for 223. It's well known as a Grendel powder.
Wish I could help you. I only use it in 22 Grendel these days
I use TAC a lot. Great powder in my mind. I load 23 grs in 55gr blaster ammo and 25gr in 62gr Speer Gold Dots.