What gear will help me the most in prs

[FN-Whitney]

I was in the same spot last year and I'm still shooting a Rem 700 308 but I upgraded my scope added a Warhorse Development Comanche and dry fired everyday. I have gone from finishing in the bottom 5 to solid mid pack. I'm still shooting factory ammo also, concentrating on positional shooting when I practice and I only shoot prone when I check zero. I made a barricade out of pvc pipe to set up at my house for dry fire and that has made a huge difference. If you get into a gear frenzy it is a matter of time before someone with solid fundamentals and a strong work ethic will pass you by.

 

[LH_Gina]

Like everyone else has said, practice outweighs gear. A really smart Aussie told me a long, long time ago, "unless you're checking load development or checking dope, get off your belly. Shoot off trees, chairs, benches, barricades, whatever, but quit shooting prone."

For every style of bag, there are about 3-5 options from different companies. Our club has several loaner bags so newer shooters who don't have all the cool kid gear yet can try before they buy.

The class with Frank will help more than anything because it'll be the basis of everything else you do. If other shooters give you ideas on how to shoot a particular stage, try it. If it doesn't work for you, try something different. Find people with the same body type/build as you and watch how they solve problems/stages. Listen more than you speak.

And for the love of all that is holy, don't get a Valkyrie. Burn out your barrel and then another and then another. Pick one caliber and stick with it for at least a year.

 

[Killswitch Engage]

shoot more suck less

 

[littlepod]

I'm looking to get into PRS, NRL22... reading this thread it looks like, shoot, shoot, and shoot some more. But then shooting with poor fundamentals isn't good, so I should take a class.

Googling precision rifle classes leaves me with a lot of results. Finding something local would be awesome.

Suggestions on classes in WA state? Or if not, just suggestion on classes in general?

 

[b6graham]

I'm looking to get into PRS, NRL22... reading this thread it looks like, shoot, shoot, and shoot some more. But then shooting with poor fundamentals isn't good, so I should take a class.

Googling precision rifle classes leaves me with a lot of results. Finding something local would be awesome.

Suggestions on classes in WA state? Or if not, just suggestion on classes in general?

VP Precision

 

[pineoak]

start with dry firing- a lot

training with SH is only $15 under "upgrade"; you'll get a LOT of info to practice

from there seek a trainer to correct you on your fundamentals; you'll get more out of SH and practice THEN training IMO

 

[littlepod]

Looks like https://firearmsacademy.com/rifle/precision-rifle-09-06-2019 might be a good one. Thanks for recommendations.

 

[b6graham]

Looks like https://firearmsacademy.com/rifle/precision-rifle-09-06-2019 might be a good one. Thanks for recommendations.

uhhh you're joking right?

 

[littlepod]

uhhh you're joking right?

I found that from a recommendation in another training in WA thread.

 

[b6graham]

I found that from a recommendation in another training in WA thread.

400 yards. blow up air mattress. awful website. i'd pass hard on that.

https://milehighshootingoutdoors.com/

https://vpprecision.com/

Gunwerx
Frank

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

I'm looking to get into PRS, NRL22... reading this thread it looks like, shoot, shoot, and shoot some more. But then shooting with poor fundamentals isn't good, so I should take a class.

Googling precision rifle classes leaves me with a lot of results. Finding something local would be awesome.

Suggestions on classes in WA state? Or if not, just suggestion on classes in general?

Anything involving Scott Satterlee will be an excellent class.

 

[Sheldon N]

Looks like https://firearmsacademy.com/rifle/precision-rifle-09-06-2019 might be a good one. Thanks for recommendations.

I would not suggest that one. Haven't heard of any of their instructors and they do not compete in the WA PRS events.

Guys to learn from would be Pynch/Vibbert (VP Precision), Scott Satterlee/Sawtooth (they often do stuff out at Rock Lake Range).

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

I would not suggest that one. Haven't heard of any of their instructors and they do not compete in the WA PRS events.

Guys to learn from would be Pynch/Vibbert (VP Precision), Scott Satterlee/Sawtooth (they often do stuff out at Rock Lake Range).

D'oh, didn't realize that was who VP Precision was. Make that another vote for VP Precision, too.

 

[littlepod]

For positional shooting, what sling do you guys recommend the most? I see the TAB PRS, Rifles Only Bungee Sling, Armageddon Sling, and SAP Sling... do they keep 1-upping each other every year? The reviews I see for slings are slings from 2015, and it looks like a lot of models have been updated.

 

[FN-Whitney]

I run the Short Action Precision sling, took some getting used to but now I really like it.

 

[littlepod]

I run the Short Action Precision sling, took some getting used to but now I really like it.

Do you sling up on barricades? The bungee style stuff they're adding to the Armageddon and the new Rifles Only sling look promising.

 

[b6graham]

Do you sling up on barricades? The bungee style stuff they're adding to the Armageddon and the new Rifles Only sling look promising.

No. Gamechanger type bag. Good to go. A well balanced rifle whether 16 or 24 pounds will sit and point at the target. Just have to take your influence out of it whether you free recoil or not

I've never used a sling in a PRS match. Left it on the shooting mat with my service rifle and Tubb2k

 

[elmuzzlebreak]

Less is more. Don't use pillows to compensate for poor fundamentals.

 

[slowlearner]

So you have identified a few weak spots.

Rear bag, support bag, and bipod.

Now how do you pick from all the choices? Go RO a two day match. Watch how people use their equipment, what works and what doesn’t. Ask shooters about after they finish the stage, people LOVE talking about their stuff. You will learn more in those two days, and save money by figuring out what you need.

Your rifle and scope are more than enough to get you going. The time behind a gun, getting in and out of position, and some practice ammo will go much further than just buying a new gun or scope.

 

[Sheldon N]

Do you sling up on barricades? The bungee style stuff they're adding to the Armageddon and the new Rifles Only sling look promising.

I don't even bring a sling to matches anymore.

 

[FN-Whitney]

Do you sling up on barricades? The bungee style stuff they're adding to the Armageddon and the new Rifles Only sling look promising.

I don't because I'm not fast enough yet, but when I am, it will depend on how I can build my position.

 

[Paul_H]

I know what you mean,

I was listening to a podcast about shooting fundamentals,
and one thing that really stuck out to me,
was all positional shooting foundations, should try to mimic the prone position as much as possible, if/when possible

It also, kind of opened my eyes to how in-depth the prone position really is and can be

Probably one of the most important positions to master, imo
something I plan to work on over the summer.
Being able to shoot a 308, no brake, 11lb rifle, prone, and recover from recoil, on target, before the shot hits the target



lol, look at the paper stage as well
or the Alice stage

all prone, but people still dropped points

@mmlook, can you share which podcast that was? I'd like to listen to it too.

 

[kthomas]

I don't even bring a sling to matches anymore.

I only use it to carry a rifle between stages, otherwise I'd be leaving mine at home as well.

Slings take a lot of time to set up, it's harder to transition to different positions with slings, and generally take a lot of practice to be proficient with. Slings definitely have their uses, just not so much in the PRS world.

If you do feel the need to get a sling, the RO bungee sling is a great one.

 

[mmlook]

@mmlook, can you share which podcast that was? I'd like to listen to it too.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...gies-rifle-setup/id1368302862?i=1000428698702

Long Range Pursuit - ep.21