Xero C1 Pro - v3.30 update

[Garmin]

While we don't typically comment about ongoing development, I will say that we monitor these threads and appreciate feedback about our products and applications.

 

[Darryle]

Well, they could spend the time adding a feature that users actually need, or... they could spend minimum effort writing a firmware update that just flashes the screen and call it down range mode in an effort to sell more units because, well, you need a second Xero in order to make use of that "feature".

Yeah, I want to spend money on a second unit and still not have the ability to reopen a session

I could have just kept using my Labradar instead of using the hard case for a table to pile crap on

 

[Holliday]

Last week we released v3.30 for the Xero C1 chronograph. While adding some new functionality to simplify gathering data downrange, we introduced a bug that caused shots to be missed.

We have resolved the issue and a new version of software, v3.32 has been released today. We apologize for the inconvenience.

The new Downrange Mode in the Pro Settings can be used to verify or determine a true long range BC. By placing a second unit downrange (ex. 300 yards) and getting the velocity downrange as well as at the muzzle you can use your ballistic calculator to vary the BC until you find a match for the velocities at the distance you used. Downrange Mode will cause the display of the unit to flash black/white when it records a shot so you can more easily tell when the downrange unit has detected the shot.

Well damn done, jumping on this Garmin. Your presence here and obvious upgrades to software based on feedback here has not gone unnoticed…..

Thank you

PS: I too would like to be able to reopen sessions to add shots.

 

[AZgeek]

Have it save the sessions and strings in your Shotview App... Then you don't have to worry about onboard data saving on the unit itself. Then you can simple select any string you want to continue by controlling it through the App. Would be very simple. Even the idiots at Bulletseeker managed to figure out how to make a functional app, but the product itself sucks.

I agree. Merging sessions somehow on the app is probably the path of least resistance. The sessions coming over from the C1 would need some kind of common identifier or linkage to pull this off. Maybe the note field could be used.

 

[AZgeek]

More data is more better. That’s why.

So helpful and well thought out response.

 

[Rodney65]

Great news, but would you PLEASE, PLEASE make it so that we can re-activate a String once we have left it and come back to it, and continue to collect/add more shots to it?

It is very common to need to collect data on more than one rifle or load in a session, but a rifle or suppressor may need to cool before all data collection is finished. In this instance most people will begin to collect data on the next rifle while the first one cools, so a new session is started. When the second rifle needs to pause for cooling, the Xero will not allow you to re-open the previous session and continue adding to it. This is very inconvenient, and seems like something that would be very easy to fix. One things for sure, more people will find this useful than the BC calc option.

Thanks for listening!

I feel exactly the same way. If you could prename the strings in the app it would be outstanding.

 

[Rodney65]

It is a serous question. I get what your saying. Can you not export the data from ShotView and throw it in a spreadsheet to include multiple sessions and just do the calculations? Certainly not a simple work around but it can be done.

The Labradar was a clunky system that was finicky and difficult to use that allowed itself to become outdated but even it had the option to pull up an old string and add to it. nvm, no it couldn't.

If you're still curious as to why it would be useful it would make it much simpler to keep track of your shots. If you're switching rifles/ammo types ten times at the range you would have twenty strings to combine. If they were similar speeds you would have to keep paper notes to remember which strings were for which rifle/ammo. Having String 1: Rifle 1, String 2: Rifle 2 would be much easier in my opinion (and a lot of other people's opinions too it seems.)

And like you I also submitted feedback on their website. I didn't even get a response.

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

So helpful and well thought out response.

sometimes I forget I’m not in the bear pit.

If you like playing with excel more power to you. I bought the xero for simplicity. I don’t see how wanting more simply is offensive to you.

There. More sentences, that should satisfy your thirst for more Doc attention.

 

[vh20]

The Labradar was a clunky system that was finicky and difficult to use that allowed itself to become outdated but even it had the option to pull up an old string and add to it.

If you're still curious as to why it would be useful it would make it much simpler to keep track of your shots. If you're switching rifles/ammo types ten times at the range you would have twenty strings to combine. If they were similar speeds you would have to keep paper notes to remember which strings were for which rifle/ammo. Having String 1: Rifle 1, String 2: Rifle 2 would be much easier in my opinion (and a lot of other people's opinions too it seems.)

And like you I also submitted feedback on their website. I didn't even get a response.

Um, you'll have to educate me on this one. I was an early adopter of the LR, and I used it until the Garmin came out, at which time I became an early adopter of it and never have used the LR since. But I never found the ability of the LR to add to add to a previously closed session? To my knowledge, you can't do that.

 

[Rodney65]

Um, you'll have to educate me on this one. I was an early adopter of the LR, and I used it until the Garmin came out, at which time I became an early adopter of it and never have used the LR since. But I never found the ability of the LR to add to add to a previously closed session? To my knowledge, you can't do that.

Sorry, you're right. I had read this in the manual "When the LabRadar detects a projectile the velocity is recorded in the currently selected Series" and took that to mean it had the desired feature but that is contradicted by this statement "It is impossible to add shots to a previous series once another series has been started."

I never actually tried it when using the unit as touching it tended move it and misalign it or cause the power cord to come loose. Sorry, my bad.

 

[AZgeek]

Well, they could spend the time adding a feature that users actually need, or... they could spend minimum effort writing a firmware update that just flashes the screen and call it down range mode in an effort to sell more units because, well, you need a second Xero in order to make use of that "feature".

Here's what I found on their Support Center:

I checked the alignment diagram for this mode and its the same as measuring from the muzzle. Better be on your game if rounds have to be 5 inches near it! I believe there are safer ways to true up velocities than this method.

 

[AZgeek]

sometimes I forget I’m not in the bear pit.

If you like playing with excel more power to you. I bought the xero for simplicity. I don’t see how wanting more simply is offensive to you.

There. More sentences, that should satisfy your thirst for more Doc attention.

"offensive", "resistant"? Hardly the case. I could care less either way.

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

"offensive", "resistant"? Hardly the case. I could care less either way.

Well bless your heart.

Then care less this time

Oh and by the way, it’s “couldn’t care less”

Ya muppet

 

[oneshot.onehit]

I think its time to park the Lab and get a couple of the Garmin’s, a few of us have a project at hand where the down range data with the latest released technology using two units should work well.

JH

 

[GBMaryland]

It’s definitely time to park the lab radars. My understanding is even the new one doesn’t pick up bullets too well.