Rifle Scopes Zero Compromise Optic update

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canezach said:
I'm hoping someone who has used the scopes I'm interested in can lend a hand. I recently acquired an Accuracy International AX short action that now needs some glass. I'm looking at the NF ATACR 7-35 with Mil XT or a Z Comp 527 with MPCT2. For those who have tried both, is the Z Comp worth the extra $$$? More specifically, lets say you can buy the ATACR in the $2900 range and the ZCO at $3600. What does the ZCO bring to the table the NF doesn't?
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I've got and use both, I think the diffences have been stated pretty adequately. Without turning this into a 735 vs ZCO thread was there something in particular you wanted to know about?
 
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Winny94 said:
would it be possible, next time youre out, to get some comparison images at the same mag range? trying to get an idea of how much better the FOV is on the ZCO
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It's not the fov that's better. Fov at the marked mags is very comparable to the other tier 1 scopes. It's the image size. It's like a 65" TV vs a 50" TV. you're not seeing more picture, it's just bigger.
 
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Covertnoob5 said:
It's not the fov that's better. Fov at the marked mags is very comparable to the other tier 1 scopes. It's the image size. It's like a 65" TV vs a 50" TV. you're not seeing more picture, it's just bigger.
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I think this is an excellent explanation of what you see through the ZCO. It's not that you're "seeing" more with the ZCO but the image is larger, so while a 55" 4k TV displays a 4k image, the 65" 4k TV also displays the same 4k image but bigger, it's just a very pleasing experience to your eye.
 
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wjm308 said:
I think this is an excellent explanation of what you see through the ZCO. It's not that you're "seeing" more with the ZCO but the image is larger, so while a 55" 4k TV displays a 4k image, the 65" 4k TV also displays the same 4k image but bigger, it's just a very pleasing experience to your eye.
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This, and the original analogy makes little sense actually. A larger TV, by definition, has a larger FOV when considering a fixed viewing location.

If you were to put a 55" aperture over a 65" TV (cut a rectangle in the box it came in that had a 55" diagonal length), you would then be comparing similar FOV's and find the 65" TV's image restricted but appearing to have a larger "magnification" so to speak.
 
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B-P-UU said:
This, and the original analogy makes little sense actually. A larger TV, by definition, has a larger FOV when considering a fixed viewing location.

If you were to put a 55" aperture over a 65" TV (cut a rectangle in the box it came in that had a 55" diagonal length), you would then be comparing similar FOV's and find the 65" TV's image restricted but appearing to have a larger "magnification" so to speak.
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It’s the eyebox that displays a bigger view, which has nothing to do with the FOV out of the objective lense.

So yes the comparison actually makes sense. The image is larger, but you do not see more. Which is the same thing with TV’s. You dont get a wider FOV with a larger TV. You see the same image on both, it is just the size of the image that is different
 
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B-P-UU said:
This, and the original analogy makes little sense actually. A larger TV, by definition, has a larger FOV when considering a fixed viewing location.

If you were to put a 55" aperture over a 65" TV (cut a rectangle in the box it came in that had a 55" diagonal length), you would then be comparing similar FOV's and find the 65" TV's image restricted but appearing to have a larger "magnification" so to speak.
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I must be too dumb to visualize this analogy (or maybe I need to upgrade my Tv haha) - if anyone has images that illustrate, id really appreciate it!
 
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B-P-UU said:
This, and the original analogy makes little sense actually. A larger TV, by definition, has a larger FOV when considering a fixed viewing location.

If you were to put a 55" aperture over a 65" TV (cut a rectangle in the box it came in that had a 55" diagonal length), you would then be comparing similar FOV's and find the 65" TV's image restricted but appearing to have a larger "magnification" so to speak.
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Shit, I need a bigger tv to see all the stuff I’ve been missing in movies with a smaller FOV then
 
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blbennett1288 said:
It’s the eyebox that displays a bigger view, which has nothing to do with the FOV out of the objective lense.

So yes the comparison actually makes sense. The image is larger, but you do not see more. Which is the same thing with TV’s. You dont get a wider FOV with a larger TV. You see the same image on both, it is just the size of the image that is different
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Agree.. I was not implying you "see more" with a bigger TV. But even in your example, you state the image is bigger. By bigger, one would assume higher magnification, correct? That's why I used the aperture example.

A guy can't say "the FOV is the same between 2 scopes at the same magnification, but one scope has a bigger image (implying higher magnification) " those attributes are mutually exclusive.

Unless you are just referring to the frame if the image..as in, some scopes have the appearance on a black circular ring around the image field.. if that is the case, carry on.. ha.
 
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jmw said:
How is everyone liking their scopes. Thinking about buying one myself. Just wanted to know if everyone is happy with their purchase. Doesn’t seem to be a down side to these scopes
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I have a ZC527 5-27x56 MPCT 2 and I am delighted with it.

No negative dings so far. Not looking like there will be either.
 
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jmw said:
How is everyone liking their scopes. Thinking about buying one myself. Just wanted to know if everyone is happy with their purchase. Doesn’t seem to be a down side to these scopes
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I own the ZC4X20 and it is hands down my favorite scope.Saving for another one so that will tell you how I feel about it.One thing,It will spoil you rotten.
 
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gebhardt02 said:
I have no idea actually. I'll have to see what they can do. Thanks for asking.
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Great. Thank you. I was going to call today to see if you guys had worked with them yet or if there was already a compatible mount available. Going to need one here for my 5-27 soon and figured someone has done it already or trying to? Thanks for looking into it. I appreciate it.
 
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