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Rifle Scopes Scope riser on a prs rifle? i have an eye relief problem

Why is your cheekpiece cocked off to the side like that. You really get NPA setup like that?

There are alot of really good tall skinny lanky dudes who shoots PRS and run a pretty normal setup. I would look at that first.
It let's me keep my neck and head neutral, straight up and down, more comfortable. never caused a problem with npa for me. It definitely could be a problem if I'm not consistent but that goes for anything.
Besides the cheek piece it's pretty normal, I just like my lop at 14.5". I have rifles with shorter lop, I can shoot them fine but on this gun I don't want to compromise on my body position/comfort. I picked up a riser I'm gonna try it out and see, probably should have just done it instead of poasting 😆

Is the March FX 4.5-28x52 my new ZCO?

If lifetime warranty and excellent customer service are your main criteria, than everybody should only use Vortex products and not look at anything else.

I think we can safely assume that is not what you meant. We can have a discussion on whether it is a polite thing to crap on the brand you do not carry. Longer turnaround time is definitely a weakness for March. Long term customer support is not. They pretty much flat out said that everything will be supported. Perhaps it is an unspoken rule, but I do not see people in the industry talking about their competing brands a whole lot. For example, I do not think I have ever seen Jeff or Nick from ZCO say disparaging things about their competition. They say good things (justifiably so) about their own products, but do not disparage other brands.

Either way, both ZCO and March make very nice scopes, but emphasize different attributes. Depending on what you need, March may work better or ZCO may work better. It really comes down to what matters most to you.

As much as I like March scopes, I do not only shoot with March. If anything, I use Tangents more than other scopes I have and there are quite a few other scopes here. I do have a couple of Marches, a Leupold or two, several Vortex scopes, etc.

They are all chosen for specific guns for a specific reason that makes me think they are the best fit. Not once did I consider service turn around time as a criteria for selecting the right scope for the right application.

ILya


I'm not crapping on March at all, we are just having a discussion about the pros and cons of the scopes being discussed.
I've heard great things about March for benchrest and F-Class type shooting. I've even sent customer's towards their direction which is 0 benefit to me.

When I discuss optics and precision products with people, I try and see what is best for the individual. And as I have gotten in trouble with the boss for referring people to products we do not carry or explain that they already have the best option in their possession. There really is no one best at everything for everybody, and I just provide the best information I have to help customers make the best decision. I try and look at the whole picture which is not always discussed publicly to provide the best information.

So I'm not shitting on March as they try to push the envelope which is a good thing.

I hope that clears things up and I'd be happy to discuss it further at 916-628-3490.

-Richard

Bartlein Barrels Update

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Here is our 30 round test through a Bartlein .30 barrel 1/10 twist shooting .308 175 handloads.
This was our verification group to verify our load was good.
I shot 3 10 round groups for a total 30 round string. Here are the group sizes, the last one made it a bit larger than it may have been otherwise
0.4170.4190.841
SD = 8 for 30 rounds.

By the way, my employee Travis is pretty on top of things, and is a 16yo junior shooter. He wrote up this blog post about the load development process we came up with after a lot of thought (in case your wondering about the 30 shot group).
https://www.bisontactical.com/2024/08/18/load-development-process/
My Bartlein 1-11.25 does better with the 168/175gn SMK and my handloads and that twist rate was recommended by Southern Precision Rifles who did the chambering.

Man Arrested For Tossing Nails And Screws In Driveways Of Trump Supporters

He's screwed


AG Pam Bondi has EVERY intention of having these fucktards charged under terrorism clauses. That means in addition to prison terms and massive fines, there will be lifelong registries, no fly list, etc... Future employment prospects? Have fun with that. Hold medical licenses and security clearances? Womp womp. That trans Tesla firebomber from Colorado has already been federally charged. Also, this new administration is bringing back old school 'management by walking around'. VP Vance has been doing an AWESOME job showing up to hotspots personally and making sure shit is being done the way voters want it done. Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi has also personally made appearances at high profile gang member busts, wearing load bearing vests and body armor. We are NOT fucking around, at all.

One of our shop foremen the other day nailed another leftist creep on Tiktok making threats against Elon Musk. It wasn't hard to get the channel's location and the creep's real name from readily available info and send reports to FBI, DHS, and the mofo's own local LE. Unlike the last 4 years, these agencies proactively respond now and acknowledge all legitimate reports sent to them. You want 15 seconds of fame, we will happily give it to you.

Is the March FX 4.5-28x52 my new ZCO?

CS Tactical is a very reputable dealer and if you want to buy a ZCO he should be on the short list.

ZCO makes amazing, awesome scopes. We are lucky that Mr Huber stepped out and created a new brand, and has given the market a "Tier 1" line of scopes to consider.

March is limited by Japanese law that they can only ADVERTISE a 10 year warranty due to the Companies size. They are inherently conservative and a humble company representative of local cultural values, and this same perspective is applied to thier warranty and repair policies that are actually implemented.

If your March breaks, it'll go to Japan to be evaluated and repaired by the same engineers and assemblers that design and build production scopes. Probably best plan on 6-8 weeks and be elated when your turn around time is 3-4 weeks or less.

Lots of great options in scopes nowadays.

My favorite 3 from March are the 1.5-15x42 DFP, the 5-42x56 G2 PRS Edition, and the 8-80x56 Majesta.

Is the March FX 4.5-28x52 my new ZCO?

I took it differently, to me it seemed like a deflection to steer the discussion off topic IMO.

Over $3k there are manufacturer's that provide lifetime warranty that doesn't need to be shipped overseas and provides excellent customer service.

-Richard
If lifetime warranty and excellent customer service are your main criteria, than everybody should only use Vortex products and not look at anything else.

I think we can safely assume that is not what you meant. We can have a discussion on whether it is a polite thing to crap on the brand you do not carry. Longer turnaround time is definitely a weakness for March. Long term customer support is not. They pretty much flat out said that everything will be supported. Perhaps it is an unspoken rule, but I do not see people in the industry talking about their competing brands a whole lot. For example, I do not think I have ever seen Jeff or Nick from ZCO say disparaging things about their competition. They say good things (justifiably so) about their own products, but do not disparage other brands.

Either way, both ZCO and March make very nice scopes, but emphasize different attributes. Depending on what you need, March may work better or ZCO may work better. It really comes down to what matters most to you.

As much as I like March scopes, I do not only shoot with March. If anything, I use Tangents more than other scopes I have and there are quite a few other scopes here. I do have a couple of Marches, a Leupold or two, several Vortex scopes, etc.

They are all chosen for specific guns for a specific reason that makes me think they are the best fit. Not once did I consider service turn around time as a criteria for selecting the right scope for the right application.

ILya

PortaJohn

Holy SHEEUT:


AWFUL...
But...
1) why isn't the city condemming the place before this?
2) new 'fridge, so somebody had to put it in...no welfare check? The hostage couldn't make sound?
3) Burned at some point, but allowed to live in?
4) It's shocking somebody could live this way. Really, worse than an animal's den.
That's not that bad looking. I'm in worse daily on the job. The smell is also more telling than just hoarder crap/unfired issues.

Is the March FX 4.5-28x52 my new ZCO?

Right, let’s get the thread back to focusing on the ZCO advantage lol.

Just giving you some shit!

I think if @TrevK would have confined his buying policy to just scopes and suppressors and not have brought in his vehicle, nobody would’ve blinked an eye.


ZCO
Tangent
Vortex
Leupold

For some quick examples :)

How to downgrade account?

So, got an email today that I have to switch to Hide TV. I can't find any subscription info on Paypal, and when I go to My Account, it says no paid subscriptions. So, I think I am just a member but not a subsciber. Is there a way to do this on Hide TV? I am not really that interested in the TV side of things, just the forum, but it seems like I have to go from free status to $200 a year status just to view the forums. Is this correct?
You don't need to pay, forum is free. did you pay before?

Looking at your banners it looks like you did pay, it's up to you if you want to "support" the forum financially or not.
You can cancel your subscription via pay pal if that's what you choose.

They want the new supporters to sub through Hide TV. not sure why or how that works but it's what I did

Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1


"Sophias strike was so powerful, she shattered the sharks ribs."

Mother fucker this is some stupid shit. This is how you get all these retarded motherfuckers we have now, screaming about climate change, rising sea levels, peak oil, save the earth, save the whales, love is love, coexist, etc ad nauseum.
We are celebrating retardation, faggotry, and fuckery. Just fucking insane.

Is the March FX 4.5-28x52 my new ZCO?

This is exactly @Denys point.

It’s not that autos don’t have a lifetime warranty, it’s about the logic of @TrevK. After he later brought up how he deals with vehicle warranties, it’s fairly clear he extends his “lifetime warranty” policy far and wide.

I took it differently, to me it seemed like a deflection to steer the discussion off topic IMO.

Over $3k there are manufacturer's that provide lifetime warranty that doesn't need to be shipped overseas and provides excellent customer service.

-Richard
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