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Been working on reloads for a 6.5CM.
First ill say I am still new with a lot of this and this is a hunting rifle. Not a precision rifle or a really super high end rifle either. But one that I do enjoy to shoot and hunt with.

Finally starting to get somewhere with help from one of the members here. Has been a huge help.
But I also have another question.
When you head to the range and start shooting. Do you start out cold. and record those groups.
Or do you run some sighters or foulers through the gun to get some heat in it before shooting groups for recording data?

The reason I ask is the 3 charge groups I shot last night all were somewhat consistant.
But the first group the first shot I made went low and opened the group up.
taking that one shot out the group and mean radius of the group would be much much smaller.
So just got me thinking if I should run this group again to see what it does if the rifle has some heat in it first.
Here is my original target.
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Here is the same target with the 1st target shot dropped. Which was the first shot made with the rifle cold.
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Right now just trying to get a charge weight found so I can start working on seating depth tests to see if I can get a smaller group.

Man, you went in .1gr charge increments. I'd fully expect your next group - if you repeated the test - to be just a touch over 1 MOA.

You have a fairly consistent load there, and that isn't a bad thing...other than it isn't giving you the accuracy you're after. It also testifies a bit to your own shooting consistency.

.1gr increments are a quarter of a single percent difference in charge weight for that cartridge. To expect significant difference in results with minute difference in inputs is a good way to expend extra ccomponents. Maybe try .75 - 1% increments (.3 - .4gr), and you'll be able to cover a much wider range of potential charges that work well in your rifle.

Or, you can keep it at 41.0, and try some seating depth tests if your happy with the velocity results from your initial test.

There's more than one way to be successful at this, which is why we argue in these forums all the time. I've just never had a "good" load that was a quarter percent away in charge weight from a mediocre load - hold up.
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New 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge

Thanks. That is my issue or concern with the NX8. I think it looks good at high magnification but all the reviews say the 2.5 is not great which defeats the point in getting it. I'm leaning towards another MK5 or the Eotech 5-25 with a red dot.

It's not a terrible optic, I have decided to throw one on a currently opticless 556 build. But to me it suffered at both ends, it's more like a 5-18x. Glass quality isn't up to par with the Leupy either IMHO. I've never been all that impressed with Eotech scopes so I can't be of much use there.
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March tracking error

What’s the consensus of the 10-80 majesta compared to the previous 10-60.

Worth the jump?

Thanks
Man I am not a F-Class shooter as I do the prs side of March but Tim Vaught is a close friend of mine and I can tell you in looking through his and from what I know internally from March from the Majesta and it’s lens array it’s an absolutely incredible optic and an improvement over the previous generations of optics. If you can make weight with your rifle setup and are looking for the finest rifle scope made for F-Class it’s incredible. What March has done at the 80x with mirage cutting and the reticle for F-Class is awesome. You should message Denys about the majesta he’ll be glad to assist and absolutely can give you every detail you might need. If you decide to order one give shoot me a pm I’ll be glad to assist on that front as well.

Thanks,
Brandon Rudge
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Cole-Tac Holster For Suppressed 22LR Pistol

I got this today. It's a holster that is more like a chest rig but I found it comfortable to wear a little lower toward the left side of my torso. It's also comfortable, as designed, to be worn close to the chest. It's easy to adjust the straps while wearing it with the pistol enclosed. I give it 6 out of 5 stars.

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I almost ordered one of these last night.

March tracking error

I’d encourage you to do some more research outside of a single guy, I don’t know his test or installation methods, shit that could also be a difference in load for a rifle on different days there’s so many variables that you really can’t account for. I will say this, March is known for having incredible glass and they have absolutely dominated the F-Class market with the 8-80 Majesta which is almost exclusively used at 80x which directly contradicts the statement “glass is good up close but at mag the glass is bad” and I know far less about the older tracking system on that scope versus the newer system but I can say that the tracking in the fclass scopes I’ve seen and my PRS scope have been fantastic, that’s coming from a PRS shooter where dialing and zero are absolutely critical to any success. You simply put can’t believe everything on the internet, maybe he did get a bad one, maybe he did install and load the rifle to shoot consistently, maybe he did hate the glass personally… but then again maybe he didn’t actually do as well at any of those things as he thinks he did.

I often build rifles for shooters and they go oh the gun has a flyer it won’t shoot and it looks just like that on paper and another pro shooter or I get behind the rifle and amazingly enough… one hole groups. Also no one says the thousands of times they have a good experience they only log into something to flame when they have an issue.
What’s the consensus of the 10-80 majesta compared to the previous 10-60.

Worth the jump?

Thanks
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SOLD WTT: Arc CDG SA w/ 223,308, and mag bf or Origin SA (308) for 22lr

I’ve got an ARC CDG action that I’m looking to trade for either a 22lr barreled action or rifle. Something like a b14r, cz455/457, vudoo, rimx etc. Cash can be added on my end if needed.

I’ll drop some pics tonight
Sorry all, life got busy.

Of note - there is a minor blemish on the front of one of the lugs (read as guiding face closest to the back of the action, not the face of the lugs that interfaces with the bolt head for setting headspace and bolt lug contact. I listed this before I noticed that. I have since reached out to the ARC team and have been in discussion with them if anything needs to be done. They believe it’s due to the bolt not having any guide rails throughout the action and the bolt head hits that face. There is no function or safety concern from ARC. Want to be transparent.

I’d also have no concerns keeping the ARC CDG and trading off an Origin SA 308 with HLR lug if anyone would rather that.

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This is an interesting potential strategy....


Read down to the end of this... and note Alina Habba's statement that "The congress created federal courts, we can defund them."

So if you are a federal judge (or a circuit court) that is passing activist rulings, playing fast and loose with the law, then you could be either dissoved by Congress or de-funded in the budget.

Trial balloon? Serious strategy? This one Obama-appointed judge who suddenly is throwing sand in the vaseline of the will of the American People... might find himself de-funded or his court entirely dissolved!

Note, too, that the Congress is trying to go on an extended Easter Recess... without finishing up Trump appointments. This includes judicial appointments, which need to continue moving forward. More delay, obfuscate and drag out... while trying to act all "We love America."

Checks and balances come in many flavors! And while the Constitution creates a judiciary branch overseen by a Supreme Court, the makeup of that judiciary branch (and the funding of it) is the work of the other two branches! So Executive and Legislative... get your asses in gear and reform the judiciary that has been weaponized for the last 25+ years (arguably the last 60+ or even the last 90 years) against the Constitution, the other branches and the American people.

Tick Tock folks... don't have forever to solve this before the commies go full commie!

Sirhr

PS. Note that she also recognizes that "People are tired of investigations... they want arrests. We need to make arrests. Not just investigate with no consequences. " Yup. This. With no consequences, we have no judicial system. Just a big roadblock that lets some people get away with murder while targeting others for destruction. All in plain sight with no consequences. Time for that to end. At least someone in .Gov is now saying it out loud!

Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

Please forgive my ignorance - what does this patch represent?
Its a SH patch. Latin for "A precipice in front, wolves behind."
between the devil and the deep blue sea: in a difficult situation where there are two equally unpleasant choices

How Relevant is the Nightforce NX8 4-32?

Lol. When I research (either writing in, or just reading) message boards, I turn off all emotions, or at least try to, and just try to absorb as much as possible. All people's answers even the wrong ones get added to a mental database for me to sift through. Even though they may be facts or opinions, it's still more data for me to consider. Everything helps in my opinion.
I also purposely come off less experienced than I am, in hopes of eliciting more conversation and more data. I dont know why I do it; maybe it's because I fear that people will withhold what they honestly feel? Not sure, but all opinions even the unpopular ones are always welcome. I'm an obsessive data collector and I love learning new things. If I didn't ever receive odd statements or opinions I feel I wouldnt be getting the whole picture.
There are quite a number of, shall we say super confident type A personalities on here, that have very 'opinionated opinions' lol, and I take all of them too. None of it bothers me. How they feel is how they feel, and they're entitled to it. For me, the more the better.