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“Down” Elevation Turret Travel

Hello, first off apologies for not knowing the correct terminology but I hope I can express my question clearly enough…

I have an ATACR 7-35 on a 20 MOA rail with scope rings, meaning 0 compensation on the scope rings for a total of 20MOA from the rail only. My 100yd zero is 12 clicks up from the bottom of my elevation turret.

I went to shoot at 1760yds (1 mile) and the Kestrel said to I needed 37 mils of elevation hold. Having already used 12 for my zero, I only have 23 available on the turret dial, so I had to hold 14 after dialing the 23. Which got me thinking, if I add more elevation compensation via a 40 MOA rail (20 more than I’m currently running) plus a 20 MOA scope mount, I would gain all that wasted turret travel…

Is there a reason I should retain some ability to dial “down” with my turret? Or can I go ahead and eliminate all, or almost all, of the downwards travel on the turret using the combination of scope mount and rail without any issues? I doubt I’ll be using loads that will differ that drastically but what do you guys think? And if I should aim to retain some of that downward travel, how much should be “enough”?

Thank you!!

Thermal help

New to thermals here got them to hunt hogs so I got a TS35-384 on a 223 with a silencer have it sighted in about 80 yards when I sight it in on the range it’s dead on and then when I take it out I’m off usually over so any ideas or what yall think I should do and I also have the clip on the tc19 and I’m wondering what’s the best size of scope to run on that

308 Ammo... I know I know

I just got a Savage Stealth in 308. I will only be doing target shooting... not Comp... yet anyway... I am looking for a decent load that won't break the bank, but somehow shoot sub MOA or close. I'm a firm believer of training and practicing with just one load, but I am new to rifles other than my Infantry days 25 years ago, so I just want to be able to buy something in bulk at a fairly good price that will give me a consistent shot group.

I know this has probably been asked a million times, but I really appreciate everyone's help in this manner.

Is the Chargemaster Supreme a solid choice for a beginner?

I’m slowly gathering parts to go down the reloading rabbit hole. So far I have ordered a Forster Co Ax and 3 sets of there bench rest FL sizing dies and seater dies for .270, 6.5 creed and 30-06.

My main purpose will be hunting inside 500 yards and to shoot small groups on paper. However I do plan to take the 30-06 and 6.5 out to 1000 yards once I get a hand on learning the ropes of reloading. Not into PRS or ELR at the moment so this is strictly a hobby for me.

I’ve been doing a lot of research of powder throwers and it seems the Auto Trickler V4 paired with the A&D fx120i scale is the gold standard with the chargemaster supreme being a solid choice as well.

1. Will the chargemaster fit my needs with the ranges I listed above?

2. Will I notice a big enough difference in group size with the Auto Trickler V4 to justify the cost?

Keep in mind I’m brand new to reloading, and will only be making small batches of ammo (50 rounds) at a time. The auto trickler seems pricey for someone just getting started but I’m also a buy once cry once individual. If the chargemaster will fit my needs then that leaves me $600 to go towards a garmin chronograph or reloading components. All recommendations welcome.
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SOLD NF ATACR 4-20x Mil-XT F1 (C644) with KAC Taupe Mount

I have a basically new NF ATACR 4-20x F1 FFP with Mil-XT reticle. It was mounted on my 6arc, and has only one box 20 rds of hornady under it. Currently sitting in a Knights Armament 34mm 1.5” 20moa taupe mount. Also has an mkm bubble level installed.

Only sign of use I can find is a faint ejection mark on the tube behind the windage turret, shown in picture. Otherwise 9.5/10 condition

Comes with box and all original contents.

$2200 shipped for scope with bubble level
$2500 shipped complete with Knights mount

Prices are shipped to the lower 48 only. Insurance is on the buyer. PayPal or Venmo.

I already bought a replacement for it, so no trades please.

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Accessories Bartlein 5R 6.5mm Barrel Blank MAKE OFFER

I’ve got a blank for sale:

Barlein 6.5mm 5R Barrel Blank
1-8 twist
Medium Palma
Blank is 25” long

$375 obo shipped or
face to face in Central Texas

Long time member here but haven’t been real active lately as I don’t really shoot matches anymore.
-Adam

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SOLD Like New Sig Kilo6K 10x42 Binos

I am selling like-new Sig Kilo6K rangefinding binos (not the HDX version or whatever the new thing is). I uploaded my gun profile to it and otherwise haven't used them. They were purchased in March, 2024 so the three year warranty is still very much in effect. Nothing is wrong with them apart from the diopter adjustments which are very stiff in my opinion.

Payment ideally would be done via cashiers check or money order. If you have a decent amount of positive feedback on here I can do Venmo/Paypal. They will ship out via UPS (signature required) the day the payment arrives if it's still within UPS business hours and I will text updates along the way, including with the tracking number.

I am not looking for any trades. Let me know if there's information or pictures I left out.

Price: $550

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SOLD Aics magazine 308

Selling a bunch of aics mags
5 accurate 308 mags with binder plates, 4 have mdt mag extensions, 1 has an altus mag extension. I also have the original springs and followers for the mags with mdt extensions. $55each

1 alpha 308 mag, missing some paint but runs very smooth. $45

1 accurate 6.5 creedmoor mag without binder plate. $50

I’d do $300 all sold


All prices are shipped and payments via paypal f&f


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Hera H6 - Anyone handled one?

Supposedly they are in Europe and Canada already.

US version is .223 Wylde and 300 Blk, 16, AR Mag (fed from side), great trigger, light weight. Looks like a Hera reskin of the Voere S16.

Feels like it could be a smoother version of the Ruger Ranch, with arguably better ergos and ability to support pic, arca, MLOK. Don't know if it will be worth 3x what a Howa mini goes for, but I'm excited to see more .223 bolt options in the market that don't require short (Rem 700) or long (Tikka) actions, especially since it sounds like Sako isn't supporting XS/mini actions anymore.

Prepping a pair of Safari Rifles SH-style

I have been on the Hide for a few years, mostly playing with rimfire precision rifles for use as trainers and smallbore competitions. But, I have always been a centerfire shooter for hunting, home defense, SHTF moments, etc. As a hunter, my world has been expanding to Africa. Having completed my 1st safari this summer, I was in the process of prepping a new pair of rifles for a future hunt in 2025. I went about it as if I was prepping a pair of precision rifles here but with my eye on their intended use. For long range plains game at distances running from 50y out to 300y (typical) and 400y practical max for practice, etc I selected a nice old vintage Husqvarna Swedish Mauser in 30-06. This is the Imperial model. I wanted a FFP scope of moderate power with good turrets and acceptable glass. Since I had one sitting on the bench unused, I mounted the Arken EPL4 4-16x. For dangerous game, specifically Cape Buffalo, I was to use a lovely ER Shaw custom P14 Enfield in 375HH topped with a 1-6x Kahles K16i. It would not be planned to use on anything past 100y but I wanted to know my dope out to at least 300y. Both these are exceptionally accurate rifles as hunting rifles go. Both were used rifles but had not seen that much use (typical of hunting rifles).

After testing loads and choosing the ammo for the trip, I went about verifying the dope in my ballistics app so I could refine as needed. The 30-06 shot all ammo well but liked the Remington 180g Swift Scirocco loads best. It was consistently running about 1/2" for three shots at 100y. Dope was amazingly close all the way out to 400y where it recorded a three shot group on steel that was 2.25" . It was great fun to ring the 6" and 4" plates at 400y on the first shot for each. That will work for anything I need it to. Could I find a better scope than the Arken? Maybe, but for what I plan to do with it, the Arken is near perfect. I do not love their reticle for hunting. It needs a heavier center cross to aid quick acquisition in cluttered backgrounds but, I think it will still work OK. Should know better after deer season. PLus, I use Arkens on several other precision rifles and despite their lower price point, they fight well above their weight class in the real world. Rugged and reliable.

The 375HH was zeroed at 100y but just for grins I shot it at 200/300/400y to record the drops and general precision at those ranges. This rifle will shoot its best loads to just under 1" at 100y with occasional groups of about 1/2" with the best ammo. It will be running 300g Barnes TSX for most large game and 300G Swift A-Frames loaded to the same velocity as the Barnes for use on Buffalo and then carry a pair of 300g Woodleigh Hydro solids in the bottom of the mag if the buff wants to cop an attitude. I shot only a two shot group at 400y on a steel IPSC plate. I could hear and see the plate move from each impact but could not see the POI in the scope or even in a 24x optic from another rifle. That was odd. I only fired two simply because those cartridges are pricey and after 8-10 shots from the bench it gets tiresome to shoot. When finished I drove down range to pull my tgts and walked up to examine the steel plates at 400y. The 375HH grouped both shots into a group that was under 2" at 400y. I was using a 3mil hold over. The app called for 2.8mil. The shots hit about 6" high and 4" to the right. I won't be shooting game with it at that distance but it is nice to know it was grouping like that considering how imprecise my aim can be with only 6x to work with.

I plan to deer hunt with the Swede this fall to vet it further but as of now am pretty pleased with the results. Most shots in Africa would be less than 300y. I use my rimfire to practice shooting off sticks since that is a perishable skill and lots of practice builds confidence and confidence helps the hunter to maintain a calm and business like demeanor when called upon to make a critical shot. Am looking forward to next year. I know these are not really precision rifles in the classic sense but if they can shoot that well, what is your definition of precision?

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