I'm about to take the mk 4hd 6-24 and a nightforce atacr 5-25 out to the range fri morning. I'll try to remember to post a comparison here after I do some shooting. The mk 4hd is on a colt 308, and the atacr is going on an fn 6.5cm.
Rifle Scopes Leupold Mark 4HD
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I have one and it's really not that big of a deal, shot mine @ 600ish on steel without issue.
Ditto. I have the FFP MK4HD 2.5x10 on my 22-250 yote rifle, and I haven't missed any shots due to parallax.
Awesome. Guess I’ll pick one up tomorrow for my Grendel bolt gun
Why is that scope so high????? Lol
Hunting purposes. It's strictly a yote rifle, and I hunt solo, so I have to do my own spotting, which requires some fast repositioning some times. The high scope allows me to reposition, or shoot left handed, without having to worry about getting in the perfect position to fit inside the eyebox of the scope. I don't use any cheek weld at all, I'm able to just put my head In the general direction of the scope and find the eyebox easy, regardless of how I'm situated.
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I took the leupold mark 4hd and the nightforce atacr out to the range today. The glass is excellent in both. Resolution was great in both scopes at 100 yards. I couldn't get the 5-25x nightforce to focus at 25 yards for sighting in. The leupold wasn't able to focus well at 25 yards, but it was a slightly better picture than the nightforce. I felt like the leupold was a hair brighter than the nightforce. Next week I'll take them out to the long range and shoot to a mile.
Perfect, thank you for the update.
I just tried calling Leupold to speak with them about the optical differences of the newer MK4 and MK5, 8-32x and 7-35x with PR2 MOA reticles, as those are the 2 I'm mainly interested in. But it sounds like the techs are out until Monday so that conversation will have to wait.
They will be going on long range hunting/target rifles out to 1200 yards for my applications.
Im using the 2.5-10 RFP Illuminated TMR at my 3 gun competition next Saturday. I will report back regarding any thoughts on parallax/ wishing there was some adjustment.
Engagements are usually from 10 yards (offset red dot), 120-300 yards (scope) on a stage so that should be adequate for comparison on dialed at 2.5 and then up to 10 (a little overkill for 300 yards, but should be a good judge of lacking parallax and how it affects things)
Was worried about the big nob on the windage blocking view to the offset but looks like it's going to be perfect
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Not on any of mine, it is not what I would consider small at all
If all goes well, I'll be at thunder valley on fri and make good observations.
hot damn put a keel on that thing before you capsize
Yeah right? I am a mere Duke de Backwater of super high scope mounts. All hail the King!
I broke down. Have a 2.5-10 FFP TMR Illum and a 4.5-18 PR2 on the way.
Just a heads up to any future buyers, or folks who have already bought but not zeroed the scope, BRING YOUR TOOLS. My 2.5-10 must have built on a Friday, because the zero from the factory was left WAY too high, and I had tools in my bag, but not the right ones, so I was SOL. Out of the box, you can only crank down .5 mil, then you're bottomed out. I needed to come down several mil, even with a 20MOA base, but couldn't until I got back home.
Ideally, you can bore sight at home, I didn't think to do this, as this has never been an issue for me.
Ideally, you can bore sight at home, I didn't think to do this, as this has never been an issue for me.
Simple. Disengage the zero stop before you go.
Picked up a 2.5-10 FFP from a member here and got it mounted up yesterday. The no parallax adjustment wasn't an issue for me looking at targets out to 970 yards. I had to move my head further than you ever would in a normal situation to make the reticle move at all. Clarity was really good at every distance. I got it zeroed and will stretch it out this weekend.
Turret was bottomed out, couldn't go lower regardless of stop. Had to remove turret, but no tools in the bag that fit the bill.
I mean, bringing the tools to adjust turrets when zeroing a scope seems to be SOP?
I took the leupold mk 4hd and nightforce atacr to thunder valley today. The fov on the leupold is a little smaller than the nightforce. When magnification was maxed I could see the 13 and 17 position targets at 1000 completely in the NF. I could see half of the 13 and half of the 17 target in the leupold when centered on 15.
You mean a simple little Allen key to remove the “turret cap” to disengage the grub screws that maintain the zero stop?
To be fair Leupolds itty bitty allen screw bullshit is annoying especially since there have been 3diff sizes over the years. Also their new locking turret design can be gorilla forced if someone who is too stupid to press the button before turning the elevation knob gets a hold of it. And the threads for the windage cap are too fine imho.
The zero stop is built into the zero lock button on the the turret.
So you can't just leave it off/disengaged like you can other turrets.
They do put the allen wrench in the box with the scope. It ain't like you have to go to the hardware store. Christ who doesn't keep a small tool kit in a range bag.
People who "the event of shooting" isn't a big deal to them. If you only get out once a week or once a month, yeah, you're probably going to bring the kitchen sink with you each time, I would do the same. Me, I can go out my back door and go shooting on my property, I can go shooting with a buddy 5 minutes down the road on his property, it's not really a big deal. Unless I'm going more than 20 min from home, I almost never bring tools with me, because I didn't waste any trip to go shooting.
The point of my post wasn't necessarily a tool reminder, it was more so to bring to light that Leupold is retarded for shipping a scope that had 10 extra mils of elevation pre-dialed into it, with the turret bottomed out. Every other scope I've ever bought, I can bolt it to a rifle, and get a 100 yard zero without any tools (I'll go reset the cap/zero stop at home rather than opening up the cap in the field and getting sand/dirt in the turret lube). This scope, I couldn't even put it on the target because of how much elevation was pre-dialed into it from the factory, first time ever having to remove the cap just to get the thing on paper at all.
I have used Leupold products for about 20 years. Only had one issue and that was with a scope that I had zeroed and left sitting in a safe for about ten years while I was enjoying the middle east. Got it out and still zeroed but would not track. Called Leupold and they said send it in. Got it back in about two weeks and it is still tracking perfectly.
Only issue with Leupold is that I cannot get either a Mark 4 or 5, in the LE program. Have had several on order for three months and nothing..
I think your turret issue was a factory hickup. I would have sent it back. They are good with their warranty program.
Only issue with Leupold is that I cannot get either a Mark 4 or 5, in the LE program. Have had several on order for three months and nothing..
I think your turret issue was a factory hickup. I would have sent it back. They are good with their warranty program.
Holy f tard, now people are bitching about getting new scopes with 10 mils of elevation dialed in because they left the allen wrench at home. Shit better send it back lol.
Yeah, expecting a company to ship something in a non-retarded configuration is crazy. I'm sure there is a pile of play-doh waiting for you to eat it.
Nobody is asking for it to be zeroed, and nothing has to be sent back. It's just dumb to ship a scope with +10 mils dialed in under the cap, it makes no sense, that's all. Look, I'm sure you're fine when they ship your shoes with the velcro installed wrong, being retarded means you have low expectations to begin with.
You are the one sharing how you got your ass kicked by a turret cap, and an allen wrench. You have zero license to call someone else a retard. What you relayed on here is a story of fucking up a bread sandwich. You even incorporate failure in your screen name, so here is a big piece of advice for life:
"Inspect, don't expect" and when you fail to do this, keep it to yourself.
Driving 5 minutes to go pick up the tool, and then zeroing in my backyard doesn't exactly equal "ass kicked". Mild inconvenience perhaps.
The wealth of knowledge gained in this thread is amazing....
You’re a fucken football bat. Here’s some advice. Prepare a “Murphy kit” for the range. Not something you use all the time, but duplicate TOOLS!
So when you forget something, you got your own back!
"The range" is my backyard most of the time, or a 5-10 min drive to the other ranch down the road (which is where I was). Walking around with tools would be like walking around with a backpack full of food and water in your own house. I don't need to walk around with tools, because I can just go to the garage, just like you shouldn't be walking around with food and water, when you can just go to your kitchen.You’re a fucken football bat. Here’s some advice. Prepare a “Murphy kit” for the range. Not something you use all the time, but duplicate TOOLS!
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So when you forget something, you got your own back!
You're too busy trying be a faggot about this that you missed the entire point where I said:
My post was a "hey, remember to check your stuff" type of reminder, because it seems Leupold is sending these out with a weird default setting.
Remember your advice?
All my post was, was a reminder for folks to do that, and you'd see that if you weren't pissing your pants about trying to make this a bigger deal than it was.
Where's the Dillo Dust?You’re a fucken football bat. Here’s some advice. Prepare a “Murphy kit” for the range. Not something you use all the time, but duplicate TOOLS!
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They stopped sending that years ago. We made a seasoning loosely based on it, but more spicy
than sweet.
Then why post everything was such a mother fucker for you? You posted something so fucking small it was stupid to put it into a post.
How everyone sees your original post. “I went to the range and forgot an Allen wrench.”
I’m done with your juvenile posting. Do us all a favor and STFU!
This dude is still sperging about tools.
It's the internet dude, most things are too stupid to be put in posts. This entire conversation is too stupid to be put in posts. The difference between you and normal people, is they don't act like a sped about it.
Back on course, 4.5-18 is mounted on my NRL Hunter rifle. I like it for the package and price for sure. I’d say the turrets aren’t quite as tactile as the Mark 5HD, but again price point and 34mm vs 35mm tube has brought me back into the fold. Also non retarded windage now and made even better by locking on zero.
Small things, but I like Loopys “throw lever” and Leupold Alumina caps are nice. Didn’t get to shoot it this weekend, hopefully next weekend. PR2 reticle is nice, really wish I could get it or even better (for hunting IMO) the PR3 in the 2.5-10. Which speaking of the 2.5-10, USPS has decided to hold it for a few extra days hopefully it shows up soon.
Small things, but I like Loopys “throw lever” and Leupold Alumina caps are nice. Didn’t get to shoot it this weekend, hopefully next weekend. PR2 reticle is nice, really wish I could get it or even better (for hunting IMO) the PR3 in the 2.5-10. Which speaking of the 2.5-10, USPS has decided to hold it for a few extra days hopefully it shows up soon.
Dang.... I was warned about how off beat these threads can get in the blip of a few days absence...
1. Lack of parallax was no issue with target engagements around 320ish yards
2. I also had to pop the elevation dial off and dial down to get my zero correct at 100 - I will be looking into what they claim it comes "zeroed" at from the factory because I couldn't make sense of it... Maybe 200?? Alas, I had the 3/32nd or whatever the hell the odd ball size the set screws were LOL
1. Lack of parallax was no issue with target engagements around 320ish yards
2. I also had to pop the elevation dial off and dial down to get my zero correct at 100 - I will be looking into what they claim it comes "zeroed" at from the factory because I couldn't make sense of it... Maybe 200?? Alas, I had the 3/32nd or whatever the hell the odd ball size the set screws were LOL
Got my 2.5-10 in a couple days ago, and interestingly the elevation turret is much better than my 4.5-18. The 4.5-18 isn't bad, but the 2.5-10 is exceptional. Zero mush whatsoever, very snappy and a good bit more audible. Obviously a different erector for 30mm tube vs 34mm.
in this place.I’m interested in the 8-32 but haven’t seen any available yet. Maybe they’re the last to be released into the wild? May opt for the Steiner T6Xi 5-30 instead.
I've only got behind one mounted up, haven't shot with it. Able to focus down to 17 yards at full 32x mag.... I was amazed
