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I have come to the conclusion that the establishment will do anything, and I mean anything to maintain control over the population of our country. I have restarted my epic stockpile spending. Thinking we are in for trouble times and will probably see blood and fire before they let trump finish his first 4 years. Prepare for the worst gents these people want a real fight me thinks.
 
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ArmyJerry said:
I have come to the conclusion that the establishment will do anything, and I mean anything to maintain control over the population of our country. I have restarted my epic stockpile spending. Thinking we are in for trouble times and will probably see blood and fire before they let trump finish his first 4 years. Prepare for the worst gents these people want a real fight me thinks.
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Soros is guilty of both Rico an Sedition, Why he does not have a bounty on his head or already dead is beyond me. Most all in our circle are still prepping for wants coming. The left seems to want this fight and I for one would be proud to accommodate them. If/when the pizza gate/pedophile ring info comes to pass, and names are posted & folks are arrested, that will take a lot of wind out of their sails. Keep your eyes open but lucky for those of us who live in small out of the way places, it will start in the libtard bastions first. The nice thing about that is it's easy to control the larger city's, as in less than 72 hrs after it starts most will be out of S-4 and it will be easier to shoot them as they come out on the beltways/bypasses. The librats well have a hard time w/o power/water/food, which will be cut off very quickly. I hate it for the children an innocent that will get caught up in what coming. They did nothing wrong but will still pay a heavy price.
 
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Russia has a warrant out for Soros.... For crashing their economy a few years ago and profiting billions. Soros for Snowdon. Seems like a deal to me.

The optimist in me says this will burn out. The Pessimist says it will continue to spiral.

The realist tends to lean towards my optimist side. We are three weeks into the admin. The butthurt will burn out, but, more importantly, once the Obama-ite appointees are purged (they still have their hands on the levers) and new folks start reining in their departments, then we will see things calm down.

I also have great faith in AG Sessions. These people think that they are immune after 8 years of Holder/Lynch and their corrupt apparatchik...

Right now the OFA (formerly Obama for America, now his little 25,000 person army of community organizers and SJW's called Organize for America) is also orchestrating all kinds of wonderful crap storms behind the scenes. At some point, Soros and our ex-Pres could find themselves in a RICO suit.

Last thought... the more these fruitbats keep this stuff up, the more the center of the country pulls away from them. 2018 is going to be a bloodbath for them. Something like 80 percent of the nation's democrats are in 20 cities. That's it. And, to quote someone from the Scout 'Hide, those of us in Flyover country need nothing from those cities. Nothing at all. So burn down your ratholes, leftards? There's no rioting in wheat-growing country. There's no rioting in the oil fields. There's no rioting where coal is dug. Or where farms are growing the nation's produce. Districts 1 - 13 are doing just fine... and as long as the rioting and messes are just TV worth watching in far-away capitols, who cares? Let them burn.

I suspect that any of these rioting fruitbats know that pushing their BS on Main Street USA... will end very badly. For them.
 
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I'll add to Sirh's post, that living in SoCal I can tell you; traditional dems are leaving the party in droves. They don't like what they're seeing either, and don't want to be associated with the riots and such. Now granted, we still have our majority of moonbeam, treehugging diehards, but the moderates are feeling disgraced to be associated with the Democratic party right now...
 
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MarinePMI said:
I'll add to Sirh's post, that living in SoCal I can tell you; traditional dems are leaving the party in droves. They don't like what they're seeing either, and don't want to be associated with the riots and such. Now granted, we still have our majority of moonbeam, treehugging diehards, but the moderates are feeling disgraced to be associated with the Democratic party right now...
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Encouraging. Thank you for posting that observation from someone suffering in Liz Warren country.
 
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I am torn as to what to believe. Part of me says that the actual number of people that are being highlighted by the media (the Communist / Antifa / clueless Socialist) are in fact a rather small contingent that are being amplified for sensationalist reasons by the media, and in an effort by backers like Soros to hopefully swell the ranks and increase agitation; but in the end while there may be some isolated violence and BS in the blue enclaves - there isn’t an imminent threat to the Nation as a whole.

Part of me wants to believe that Trump really was honest and forthright on the campaign trail in that he is a departure from the NeoCons / Globalism / is for the average American.

Trump’'s cabinet is stacked with Goldman guys.... this thing with Flynn....the fact that (the NeoCon inside man) Petraeus is even a consideration......

A dose of reality is that around the world powerful people have orchestrated a plan for 50 yrs, spent billions of dollars, and radically altered entire societies to move in a single global direction....what are the odds that one man (or a relative handful) can really alter those plans? There is no question that at this point that the Dollar as a financial vessel is only pushed forward by brute force, and if the force behind it were diminished in any way it would wane quickly if not all together collapse. There is a very logical argument that the only way out of the crushing debt load of the world is to the defeat the dollar, erase the debt in some capacity and a switch to an all new ‘system’. There are real and striking similarities between what is going on here and the Color Revolutions that have toppled others. Now add in the near and mid term effects of AI and robotics which are already at the point wherein significant portions of the workforce can be replaced. None of this bodes well for the ‘Little People’.


 
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Street Level Commie tactics:

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sirhrmechanic said:
Russia has a warrant out for Soros.... For crashing their economy a few years ago and profiting billions. Soros for Snowdon. Seems like a deal to me.

The optimist in me says this will burn out. The Pessimist says it will continue to spiral.

The realist tends to lean towards my optimist side. We are three weeks into the admin. The butthurt will burn out, but, more importantly, once the Obama-ite appointees are purged (they still have their hands on the levers) and new folks start reining in their departments, then we will see things calm down.

I also have great faith in AG Sessions. These people think that they are immune after 8 years of Holder/Lynch and their corrupt apparatchik...

Right now the OFA (formerly Obama for America, now his little 25,000 person army of community organizers and SJW's called Organize for America) is also orchestrating all kinds of wonderful crap storms behind the scenes. At some point, Soros and our ex-Pres could find themselves in a RICO suit.

Last thought... the more these fruitbats keep this stuff up, the more the center of the country pulls away from them. 2018 is going to be a bloodbath for them. Something like 80 percent of the nation's democrats are in 20 cities. That's it. And, to quote someone from the Scout 'Hide, those of us in Flyover country need nothing from those cities. Nothing at all. So burn down your ratholes, leftards? There's no rioting in wheat-growing country. There's no rioting in the oil fields. There's no rioting where coal is dug. Or where farms are growing the nation's produce. Districts 1 - 13 are doing just fine... and as long as the rioting and messes are just TV worth watching in far-away capitols, who cares? Let them burn.

I suspect that any of these rioting fruitbats know that pushing their BS on Main Street USA... will end very badly. For them.
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While the Soros machine is still actively at work, do not readily dismiss the mayhem as simply manufactured. I've seen the flyers that were put together by ex congressional staffers on how to mimic the Tea Party movement and form an effective grass-roots campaign.

Some of these folks are die-hard anarchists or paid agitators, but there are a LOT of otherwise "normal" younger people who've been convinced that progressivism is the only acceptable belief system. There is an all out propaganda war against conservatives with all the labels we now get slapped with. Even flyover country is in danger as long as young people are being bullied into either agreeing with the lunacy or being ostracized and even physically attacked as "racist, fascist, blah blah".

This is is a fight we positively MUST win in 2018 or we are well and truly fucked. We have control of both houses and the presidency and we see the level of opposition. Imagine losing control of Congress, there'll be impeachment movements every other day.
 
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FWIW - the link is what JSOC is thinking. Of note - listen carefully to the video. Did you here the word “unavoidable”? Did at any point in the film you hear them make the distinction that America would be an exception? Understand, if it really was a Government of the People, by the People - America would be an exception in this grim forecast. Those in charge are desire to make it unavoidable.
 
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Nik H said:
Where did this originate...very interested
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was By Any Means Necessary . I watched an interview with one of the organizers and she was a straight up violent wacko . She was talkin about how the right are fascist and causing and supporting violence and yet this whore was partially responsible for UC Berkley burning . I mean directly involved in organizing the protest and suggesting , supporting and acting violent herself . They had footage of the bitch hitting a guy whilst another takes the guy down . And yet their bitching about the Right being Fascists . I'm getting effing sick of these shitbags attacking any opinion or person that does not share their opinions . I thought that that was what made America great . That there could be differing opinions , religious beliefs , cultural beliefs and tradition . Hell even the culture that is America is under attack . I firlmly believe that the media needs to get bitch slapped back in line . The pot stirring and out and out lying by the media has passed criminal . One of the news outlets got a bullshit story from I believe the Washington post or times or what ever , admitted to it and when Kelly came out and said that he was briefed two weeks prior to the Trump travel moratorium and the story that he said he was never told was false . They came out and called him a liar . WTF . And yeah Jerry I'm thinkin the same thing . The fat lady aint sang yet and these shitbags are still pushin . Hope for the best prepare for the worst .
 
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Well I must confess I have gone from only carrying a pistol when I was hanging out with other unknown bikers to carrying all the time now. I will not tolerate my liberty being taken away nor will i be intimidated at all, ever, they have a fkn rude awakening coming.
 
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ArmyJerry said:
I will not tolerate my liberty being taken away nor will i be intimidated at all, ever, they have a fkn rude awakening coming.
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I went from a single G-23 all the time, to a G-23 strong, 642 weak, knife around neck and right pocket with a 21a on the ankle. Those only get me back to the truck, if I get there your going to see a real gun fight, I am not 25 anymore nor will I be laying in the street with a chalk outline either. I'll take my chances with a jury from Alabama over any local coroner. Not looking for trouble, but I or those I'm with will be protecting our self's
 
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I believe it comes from the Antifa group a radical left organization. One of the pictures in that pdf is on their website. Like AJ stated; I carry all the time. I hope that I never have to use it but better to be prepared than not...

 
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My 2 cents is that the commies getting randy in places like Berkeley is just a sideshow compared to what is happening in DC.

Here's Dennis Kucinich on the subject:

"The American people have to know that there's a game going on inside the intelligence community where there are those who want to separate the U.S. from Russia in a way that would reignite the Cold War," Kucinich said. "That's what's at the bottom of all this. It's early in the morning, it's Valentine's Day, but wake up America!"
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I think that during the next year or so we will find out how many patriots there are in those organizations vs unscrupulous bureaucrats, propagandists, crusty bastards like McCain who want WW3 etc....

 
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And I am stuck in Illinois watching everyone in Chicago blame the rest of the state and surrounding states for their problems. lol I lean left on most issues or simply have no opinion one way or another. In fact, I would consider the 2nd Amendment my only "Conservative" belief... I can't stand the democratic party.. Let there be war and have the Libertarians come out on top. That way the cry babies in the big cities can have it their way while the rest of the country keeps on living peacefully.
 
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interesting read, particularly how they took down Aachen Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aachen

Mike_Honcho said:
FWIW - the link is what JSOC is thinking. Of note - listen carefully to the video. Did you here the word “unavoidable”? Did at any point in the film you hear them make the distinction that America would be an exception? Understand, if it really was a Government of the People, by the People - America would be an exception in this grim forecast. Those in charge are desire to make it unavoidable.
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Nik H said:
I believe it comes from the Antifa group a radical left organization. One of the pictures in that pdf is on their website. Like AJ stated; I carry all the time. I hope that I never have to use it but better to be prepared than not...
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The irony is the anti-fa and like minded groups that protest together are basically just reborn brown shirts from the 30s. Basically same ideals, beliefs and goals. They even act so strikingly similar its eerie .

Let people like that continue to act out. The more it continues the more people are leaving their side and either standing in the middle or crossing the political aisle. Cooler heads need to prevail in these times, especially on our side. The media would love nothing more than the right/firearm supporters to make a move and then exploit it to with extreme prejudice. Unless events are pushed to the point where its SHTF we need to take the high road. Its easy to let our emotions get away with us. I'm no different. No one with any sense wants to actually see what will take place if this nation rips itself apart at the seams. You guys that were over in the sandbox saw some pretty bad shit, but this will easily top that.

If we are left with no alternative in a situation act accordingly but as of right now that's still going to be a rare moment, best to show people in our everyday life the foolishness of their ideals and actions and the worth of ours. We as civilized sensible people do not need to back down or apologize for our beliefs and life. If someone doesn't want to listen, learn, understand or at least live in peace with others then leave the fool to his folly. In the end the anti-fa and like groups are in a no win situation. Either their ides and beliefs will get rejected and they lose or they get what they want and earn first class tickets for a standing room only spot in a boxcar.

History is quite often a bitch when it repeats itself.
 
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I dont see it as tearing the country apart but more of a righting of the ship, the MSM is not a objective observer anymore they are a participant on the wrong side. I will stop there as we all know what target priorities will be in a serious take down of the left wing facist fucks, there wont be box cars just rotten skinny jean clad corpses feeding the dogs in the streets.
 
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Thankfully I live on an island in RI. Naval War College is there and not too many left leaning types as they are all in Providence.

I agree that things are different in urban situations. I work in CA and have to be there 16 days a month. Very different than home and I can't own a gun here as I am a RI resident. I have an LTC in RI. Don't know why I can't have one in CA.

I've a nice alternative but it would be much more up close and personal. Don't want to hurt anyone but don't want to be at the mercy of anyone either.
 
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Saw in a local weekly last evening an article about an organization called Indivisible which is more of the "resisting" to Donald Trump's agenda. I went to the website and joined so I can get updates on their "actions" that they are planning. I'll join them and antagonize them in my nicest manner. But mainly I want to let these clowns know that they are on the radar screens of me and other like-minded persons. Of course, not in a threatening manner. This is all small town stuff so eventually one will know who they are. Here's their national website... https://www.indivisibleguide.com/
 
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Saw in a local weekly last evening an article about an organization called Indivisible which is more of the "resisting" to Donald Trump's agenda. I went to the website and joined so I can get updates on their "actions" that they are planning. I'll join them and antagonize them in my nicest manner. But mainly I want to let these clowns know that they are on the radar screens of me and other like-minded persons. Of course, not in a threatening manner. This is all small town stuff so eventually one will know who they are. Here's their national website... https://www.indivisibleguide.com/
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Went to the website. Ill choke my chicken if that isn't an Obama OFA/Soros produced website. Pretty slickly done.

That ex POTUS, always POS, is sitting in his DC house with an office probably outfitted like NASA doing what he does best - Community Organizing.

They are desperate to create their version of the Tea Party. The Tea Party crushed Obama despite being targeted by a weaponized IRS.

The problem the left will have is that the Tea Party was based on truth and the message was honest - Taxed Enough Already - Follow the Constitution.

The left version can not tell the truth. If they did their message would be - Redistribution of Wealth, Equality of Outcome to Achieve the Lowest Common Denominator for All Except our Chosen Elite, Gun Control to Eliminate the last Means of Opposition, No National Borders, Elimination of the Constitution.

If they so strongly believe these are the policies that will bring the most benefit to the most people why don't they run based on the merits of what they believe?

They know the truth will bury them so they create false arguments to camouflage their agenda.
 
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When I was a kid growing up the neighbors dog killed two of our chickens, proof positive. Dad told them to keep their dog home, they failed and the dog was maggot'ty 3 days later when it showed up dead in their front yard. The following summer their cow got into our garden an wipped out over 1/2 of it. I roped it and tied it behind the barn, and told dad when he came in. He told them they had until friday noon to pay for the damage. On friday late afternoon dad an I butchered it then put the meat into the freezer. The following Monday they came to get the cow w/o paying, that did not end well for them, either. Never had issues with those folks ever again. Tell them the consequences of their actions then follow thru, the only thing people understand to their core. The left got to were they are today by us(yes me included) not standing up to them long ago. The window for conversation is coming to a close rather quickly in many places, and with many people. No sane person wants a fight but sometimes the right thing is the wrong thing in many eyes. That said, when you walk thru certain doors in your life there is no coming back until it's over or,...

 
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Guess this guy doesn't realize our "Arab Spring" happened in November and it was peaceful as well as successful.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4231254/Twitter-CEO-says-Arab-Spring-moment.html

Got to laugh at his viewing the revolution as one that would support his side instead of being one that would crush his side.

Not only that but he is biting the hand that feeds him. If it were not for Trump and his tweet grenades Twitter would be dead.
 
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I'm not up on the history but what was America like right after the Civil War? Economically, Socially? Did it suffer the loss of 'ground' to it's peers and if so, what length of time/events did it take to recover? I'm wondering if, in the highly improbably scenario something did kick off, what the effects would likely be?

Who would be fighting? How would it manifest itself? In the cities and urban areas there's no-one for them to fight other than 'institutions' such as civil hall, businesses or landmarks such as NYSE, Fed etc and in that case - the govt. would have to step in and deal.

I don't see this getting to a point beyond that. How would they mobilize to take the fight beyond the streets?
 
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Prior to the Civil war a big part of our economy was killing the Leviathan to supply the world with whale oil. Nantucket and New Bedford were the Saudi Arabia of the world and we had a merchant fleet that Britain struggled to match. The Civil war killed our merchant fleet which has never recovered and by than whales were becoming scarce.

John Wilkes Booth screwed the pooch because it seems likely, who knows, that Lincoln would have reintegrated the South in a better manner than Johnson. Johnson didn't have the power of Lincoln and he had to fight his own party as well as the political opposition.

Perhaps our political problems of today can be attributed also to Booth. Had Reconstruction taken a different course the Democrat Party might not have become what it is. The hard line promoted the growth of the Dems particularly in the South. The post Civil War period was not a good one. The south suffered economically and the North dealt with race and labor issues. Our economy went from boom to bust depending on shit like finding gold or opening new territory for settlement. I think it took the Spanish American war to break us out of the post Civil war era and we began to look at shit globally.

I think the chance of any real "fighting" is remote but what is real is the fight for "hearts and minds". The socialist, globalist left has been poisoning minds since taking over education and our institutions have been infiltrated by those that put the value of a socialist Star Trek like World Federation ahead of our Constitutional Republic.

Trump as an outsider is fighting against Democrats that want the World Federation now and establishment Republicans who want World Federation but only after they have sufficiently milked the cow and fabulously enriched themselves.

Time will tell maybe Trump is only in it for the power also. Better taking that chance because we know exactly what Hillary was in it for.
 
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I was thinking of sticking this elsewhere, but after reading through the thread it seems to belong right here.
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I fell asleep last night to the sounds of a media frenzy, as a wave of bombshell revelations in the Mike Flynn/Trump/Putin scandal had frothing cable TV pundits in full "All the President's Men"/what-did-the-president-know-and-when-did-he-know-it mode. By the time I woke, #TrumpImpeachmentParty was trending on Twitter. Did I mention that Donald Trump has been president of the United States for only 26 days?

Anyway, despite the lack of better offers, I'm going to hold off on my ticket to the #TrumpImpeachmentParty for now.

For one thing....President Mike Pence? That said, it's clear that Congress, our investigatory agencies and probably a special prosecutor (I hear Sally Yates is available these days) clearly need to determine the extent that Russia fu...er, meddled in our 2016 election, whether Trump aides had either knowledge of or active involvement in Putin's schemes, and whether the president himself knew what was happening.

Trump is clearly the most dangerous and most unqualified president America has ever had, but the evidence of actual high crimes or misdemeanors linked to his performance as POTUS or as a candidate hasn't really emerged...yet..

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...oples-job.html
So, my question is this: how far is "take down" from "overthrow"? Is he advocating revolution? Is this an act of sedition? And what kind of completely fucked-over shit-hole are we living in, if this heretofore unheard-of-by-me "Deep State" is in a position to pervert justice and color as seditious, in themselves, any actions taken by patriotic parties to support and defend the Constitution and the right of the current Administration to continue in place without its function being sabotaged from inside by fifth columnists left behind by Obama and outside forces amassed against it through the efforts of a maniacally well-organized Left intent on chaining us down like Prometheus to a rock?

When, I guess the real question is, does it start, or are we there already in the frog pot?
 
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6pt5Rookie said:
I'm curious.

For the OP, and others.....

"IF" it were found to be true that the Trump campaign staff had been collaborating\coordinating with Russian Intelligence operatives during the last election, even if it wasn't strictly illegal, even if only promising a more friendly relationship for any help they could throw their way, would you be OK with that?

Would that be considered acceptable means to a desired end? Would stopping Hillary justify that?

I'm just curious where people draw the line.
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Put the crack pipe down...
You can't be serious with this question.


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6pt5Rookie said:
Possibly. But if you noticed I emphasized "IF".

But, it's not a absolute impossibility.

So, the question still stands if you would like to hazard your view.

(Btw, I have asked this same question to friends who have stated absolutely. As long as it wasn't illegal, they are fine with them asking the Russians for any help they could provide to defeat Hillary. I'm not passing judgement on that. I'm just curious where people draw the line.)
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I don't believe the accusation and I would consider it a problem.
The news cycle started by Hillary/Obama is humorous.
With minor investigation Obama took an active effort in the election in Israel.
The Dems are looking for the scapegoat after a huge rebuke last November.
If you are paying attention the Dems/Repubs are really acting like the same team after this election.
The media for the most part is on that team.

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6pt5Rookie said:
I'm curious.

For the OP, and others.....

"IF" it were found to be true that the Trump campaign staff had been collaborating\coordinating with Russian Intelligence operatives during the last election, even if it wasn't strictly illegal, even if only promising a more friendly relationship for any help they could throw their way, would you be OK with that?

Would that be considered acceptable means to a desired end? Would stopping Hillary justify that?

I'm just curious where people draw the line.
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This guy was good at drawing lines......

https://youtu.be/XsFR8DbSRQE

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Rthur said:
The Russians are being ran up the flag pole as the boogie man.
CNN an msnbc are part of the same team that have people believing in this fairytale.
Where were they when the Sec of state was selling uranium to the same.
It is the equivalent of a shiny object.

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Agreed.

Remember Mitt Romney was told the 1980s wants its foreign policy back.

Putin is Godfather of the worlds biggest organized crime gang. He is not a nice man. As chief oligarch he has it pretty good with little heavy lifting. Had Obama not given him the reason he has all the power and wealth he needs. As well he/Russia is plagued by the problems of his diverse country, a middle class waking up from a long period of being screwed over and a general history of paranoia.

We have more common interests with Russia than less. Working with them would likely post dividends for both our countries at the expense of harming the idea of European globalism and Islamic radicalism.

The establishment is not happy about that.

In 2012 Obama didn't consider Russia a threat to his agenda. He was thinking they were weak and he was assuming he was so smart he could wall them off with the Ukraine Belorussia and the Baltics. Putin moving into the Crimea destabilized the already troubled EU. Putin supporting Syria threatens the expansion of ISIS. Putin isn't willing to be isolated and by passed while the globalist world is created to swallow him in turn.

So to us yes Putin is a strawman but to the globalists he is a threat of sorts of their own making. Having Putin be the target is meant to shore up a sickly Europe and divert us from the real concern that threatens us right now.
 
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6pt5Rookie said:
I'm curious.

For the OP, and others.....

"IF" it were found to be true that the Trump campaign staff had been collaborating\coordinating with Russian Intelligence operatives during the last election, even if it wasn't strictly illegal, even if only promising a more friendly relationship for any help they could throw their way, would you be OK with that?

Would that be considered acceptable means to a desired end? Would stopping Hillary justify that?

I'm just curious where people draw the line.
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Your question is relevant and if you want a real answer here it is - don’t violate the Logan Act.

That said - can you tell me with a straight face the Bill Clinton does not do this on a routine basis? How about the very nature and function of the Clinton Foundation?

Don’t get lost in the trees and not understand it is all about the forest - Flynn wasn’t pushed out b/c of the phone call. Flynn was pushed out b/c it is a power move by the Deep State.

Americans need to DEMAND that Flynn’s transcripts be released to the public.
 
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You must ask yourself these questions.
Do we have more in common with Russia?
Do we have more in common with most of the middle east?
With the possible outcome of the above questions what effect would it have on globalization?


R
 
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6pt5Rookie said:
I have no idea if Bill Clinton does the same, but I would have an equal problem with it.

I think any interference of any kind, helping either side, in our internal election process by a foreign power is unacceptable. If there is any hint of it, that needs to be taken as an existential threat to the Republic and no effort should be spared to get to the bottom of it. If it has proven to have happened, I think the costs should be extreme to those knowingly involved, and such penalties applied to the foreign power that they learn it would never be in their interests to ever attempt such a thing again.

I agree the transcripts (preferably the original recordings as well to corroborate ) should be released immediately.

I think there should be a serious investigation of how much voter fraud actually occurred.

I think all those holding high office should make their tax returns public as well as all possible financial investments, incomes, debt ,etc.

I think sunshine is the best antiseptic.
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While on the subject, study Bill Clinton and China.

R
 
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6pt5Rookie said:
Thanks for the straightforward answer.

I need more proof before believing the accusation, but I think I would have to consider it a problem too.

I've just been amazed and the number of my friends, who I believe are loyal Americans, many having served in uniform, who have told me to my face they'd have no problem the the Russian Intelligence Service influencing our election process if it meant defeating Hillary.

Wow. I just haven't figured out how to respond to that yet.
I fear their political passions have gotten the better of their reason.
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A more plausible answer is WIKI leaks and some insiders at the dnc.
A few have been silenced.

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6pt5Rookie said:
I have no idea if Bill Clinton does the same,
I think sunshine is the best antiseptic.
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On the note of sunshine - what really has to happen is that a critical mass of citizens have to become aware of what is actually going on. And yes - Bill Clinton on behalf of the Clinton Foundation and all the investors thereto, has repeatedly violated the Logan Act. Haiti is probably one of the more obvious and accessible places to start to spread some of that sunshine. The Ukraine is another.

 
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pmclaine said:
Let's hope Trump gets a hold of this rogue election tampering before The current French election......

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/16/w...cia-spying-on-french-presidential-candidates/
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The Russia / Trump thing is yet another reminder of how the vast majority of Americans willingly accept their spoonfed version of reality from those that wish to do them harm. Once again the CIA is caught manipulating a foreign election, and so few at home are able to put two and two together.

The world has been moving in a unified direction for 50 yrs, and the CIA has been on the bleeding edge of that change at the behest of the few the entire time. Yet, the braindead overlook the idea that factions of the US intelligence agencies are engaged in the same here at home, that these same factions are behind the Russia / Trump story; with the media (a CIA collaborator since the 1950s) as the principal propaganda tool.

Why does Shepard Smith not rail against this? Why don’t any of the “established” Journalist? We know the answer....
 
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