If it wasn't for a quality mishaps on the Optika 6...it is def a workable optic...and the reticle is near perfect...glass is not terrible by any means...I just question the quality control on the Optika6...now I am a sample size of 1...so...
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I’m also looking at the 3-18 by 56, I’m waiting for the FFP mrad.
I notice a couple of people here have them, any more feedback after using them a few times?
Who the heck is Element? Looks like they are geared towards airgunners...
First I'd seen that model. Not sure what Vortex is trying to do there, looks like it will be competing with their PST II model, except on paper the SE has even better stats in areas while cheaper (lighter at 30 vs 31 oz, 34 vs 30 mm tube, 56 vs 50 mm objective, 110 vs 70 MOA of elevation. It does appear the PST has "XR" multicoated lenses vs the SE having only fully multicoated lenses so I guess the PST has better glass. I assume both will be made in the Phillipines.Agree...the glass is good and better than most $700-900 optics...I think the next optic to watch out for in this price range is the new Vortex SE 5-25x56...
First I'd seen that model. Not sure what Vortex is trying to do there, looks like it will be competing with their PST II model, except on paper the SE has even better stats in areas while cheaper (lighter at 30 vs 31 oz, 34 vs 30 mm tube, 56 vs 50 mm objective, 110 vs 70 MOA of elevation. It does appear the PST has "XR" multicoated lenses vs the SE having only fully multicoated lenses so I guess the PST has better glass. I assume both will be made in the Phillipines.
I assume both will be made in the Phillipines.
Both are Phillipines...I would say its the same glass...
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Honestly hard for me to tell, but my eyesight isn't the best. It compared favorably to my Tract Toric which does have ED glass. I do see some CA in the Optika6 when its bright, so maybe that's a giveaway.I could have told you it didn’t have ED.
Now that you have used this scope for a bit, how have you found it to function? Anything else that you have that you would compare it to? Looking at potentially getting the 4.5-27 as well and would love further input.I Got the 4.5-27 mrad1
The rtz is perfect. Feels better than the gen1 razor and the glass is about equal, maybe a touch better color. Though it does start to cloud after 22x. I would hazard a guess that The 3-18 is the top dog in The optika6 lineup. The eyebox is very good throughout the mag range. The mag ring and side focus are very good, and the adjustable cat tail is a nice touch.
Imo, it's better in every respect compared to the swfa 5-20, and for less$$.
Only time will tell if they hold up.
I'm hoping they put that mrad1 in the 2.5-15, while the reticle is usable, it would be better suited for a hunting scope that may be used for extended ranges.
Did you get a chance to take it out and do some comparing?View attachment 7299005
Just got the 5-30 last week. Its surprisingly good. If it wasnt up to the task it was destined for my Sako Quad. I'll try it out on the 6.5creed when this isolation stuff is over. Have a ATACR F1, razor 4.5-27, XRS2, and mk6 3-18 to test it against. Whilst it isn't a NF or Razor, and is still behind the XRS2 (didn't check against MK6), it is terrific value for money. The only things I can be critical on is parallax needs adjusting between ranges more often to say the NF, and the eyebox isn't as forgiving above 20x. With a adjustable cheek this really isn't an issue though. I give this scope a big thumbs up, certainly is great value.
When I can get out I will check it out on target compared to the other I have. Also need to find scope caps... Anybody know the sizes? Eye piece looks big!
Do you notice a difference between the 4.5-27 and 5-30( the 5-30 has ed glass)? I know they have a different tube and reticle, but would you say they compare favorably outside of those 2 differences?I have been using the Optika6 5-30x56 34mm tube for 6 months now. I couldn't be happier. Sitting on my Bergara 6.5 CM it makes hits easy at 400 yards and a blast letting new shooters bang steel at that distance. So far I haven't been past 727 yards on a 10-inch plate. Huge fun, especially early in the morning when you can see the vapor trail all the way to the target. This scope has all the features I need and the reason I also got a 4.5-27x50. You really can't go wrong with an Optika6 riflescope. Believe me, after 10 years with another company, Meopta goes the extra mile to make a scope that you won't wish you spent more $ on down the road. Quality glass, construction, and QC are what it's all about.
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My main concern with the MRAD 1 reticle is the lack of windage holds right around the point of aim. Really that's about it and the donut seems like it is going to allow it to function well as a crossover scope. Knowing that it compares favorably to a razor gen 1 at this price point has me excited to get mine.It runs right along with the gen1 rzr, the mrad1 reticle is ok, I prefer the ebr reticles. It's way better than the swfa 5-20 in every respect, imo. But this is very subjective as it's still a very new scope. The zero stop is very good. And mine has 18mils of adjustment.
Illumination is ok, but not great. Doesn't flare, but I would've lit the dot and bottom axis as well as 1mil left and right. But I have no idea if that's possible
Good stuff I thought he did the regular MRAD on the 5-30 I didn’t realize he did the donut, I watched another video where he goes over the regular Mrad and didn’t mention the donut
Do you notice a difference between the 4.5-27 and 5-30( the 5-30 has ed glass)? I know they have a different tube and reticle, but would you say they compare favorably outside of those 2 differences?
1 4.5-27 model finally became available in Canada and I ended up jumping on it. I was at the top of a list of a list of people trying to find an MRAD model.
If you don't mind me asking, who was the previous company you worked for?
Thanks Ilya,I don't have the 4.5-27x, but I have the 3-18x50 and 5-30x56. Above 14x or so, the 5-30x56 is a bit better, but it is not a huge difference. The colors are a little nicer and contrast is a touch stronger.
ILya
What do you all do that made you decide on sfp and dichro in that magnification range? Was the zero stop just a PITA to figure out, or is it a timely process to do?I have had my two for several months. The Zero stop is a PITA to work with and the instructions are horrible. That's the only negative. Clicks on both scopes are firm, audible and accurate. Parallax is accurate. Clarity is great but not as good as some of my other scopes but they cost 3-4 times more. For what I do I went with the 4.5-27x50 SFP with the 4D Dichro reticle.
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Where is this scope assembled? Where is the glass from? Who manufactures most of it?
Meopta makes their own glass, Czech republic based company. I'm sure they source some of the other components, but it is a Czech scope. Although I sometimes wonder why people can be so concerned about that, unless they want to avoid chinese products.Where is this scope assembled? Where is the glass from? Who manufactures most of it?
I keep reading that the light transmission on these is 91%. That sounds pretty bad. What is that about?
I keep reading that the light transmission on these is 91%. That sounds pretty bad. What is that about?
These scopes are pretty much all under $600. There's only so much you can ask for at that price point that isn't WuFlu made.
Agree. I read that each lens transmits 99% but scope 91. Agree it is more about what users say.And there is much more to perceived optical clarity and quality than specs.
Is that bad or is it actually honest for once?I keep reading that the light transmission on these is 91%. That sounds pretty bad. What is that about?
Thanks Ilya,
I would imagine the 4.5-27 would compare quite similarly to the 3-18. I'm also considering a 2.5-15, but the weight is 10 oz heavier then the scope it might replace. Don't mind the weight on the tactical oriented ffp scopes, but it is a little on the high side as a hunting scope.
Lol and when can we expect those to be available. It was incredibly difficult for me to find one of the 6's and multiple models I would have preferred still aren't available. Hopefully we can see good availability on the new Optika 5 and current Optika 6 towards the end of the year, but who knows. As a 30mm tube it is quite heavy compared to a lot of other 30mm tubes with similar features. To be fair, I got rid of those lighter scopes due to durability(Leupold) and the Meopta should hold up better I would imagine.The optika 5 is a 1" tube and much lighter
The optika 5iswill have, if it ever hits shelves, a 1" tube and much lighter
Does Doug offer veteran discounts, or was the Hide discount good enough to 'scream'?Welp I just ordered a Meopta Optika6 from Camera Land. Got a screaming deal. Thanks Doug and Bro.
Well I asked and got a great deal. As a vet and Hide bubba.Does Doug offer veteran discounts?
Well I asked and got a great deal. As a vet and Hide bubba.
I keep reading that the light transmission on these is 91%. That sounds pretty bad. What is that about?
Virtually every light transmission number mentioned in marketing literature is absolute useless nonsense and I have not seen a single marketing employee in any of the scope companies I have talked to (well, maybe there is one), who understands what "light transmission" means and how it is measured.
Ignore it.
ILya
Good 'nuff. And now it will be your turn to share your thoughts on image clarity, tracking, etc.!
Looking forward to your AAR.