Rifle Scopes New Meopta Scope - Optika6
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The ones with adjustable parallax:
Sig Tango 4 6-24x50
Bushnell Forge 3-18x50
Vortex Viper PA 6.5-20x50
Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44
Cabela's Covenant 7 3-21x50
Burris Droptine 4-14x42
I have others that are fixed parallax, notably the Weaver Tactical 3-10x40 (MidwayUSA special) which is a Japanese scope with really nice glass.
I've had others that I've sold in the past that I can't even remember right now. My question is based on experience with all those.
I have the 5-30 MRAD my windage does not lock....I have about 2200 rounds fired on mine....I have beaten the heck out of this scope and today during a short sight in on a new barrel the parallax rubber grip is really loose and spinning. It didn't take much for it to fall off. Not sure if I should glue it back on or what....I am really new to PRS so I'm still not as "smooth" as most so this thing has taken a beating...Love the scope though
I have the 6-24 ZD, and it is awesome. I'd love to try one of these.
Does anyone have a military discount source?
Does anyone have a military discount source?
I have both the FFP and SFP 1-6 in MRAD2 and .223 reticles respectively. I actually prefer the SFP .223 model as it doesnt have the huge turrets and it is usable on 1x. The reticle @koshkin drew up for MRAD2 in the FFP 1-6 looks great on paper, but I feel like the execution was not there. Nearly unusable on 1x and very small even on 6x. To make it clear, the execution is not his fault. Ive had about every Optika 6 model and at this point my two favorites are the 1-6 SFP in .223 and the 3-18x56 FFP MRAD1, both are well worth more than you will pay for them and are close to complete. The 1-6 could still use brighter illumination but thats my only knock and at this price point, its expected. The 3-18x56 is really really good. I just don't think you will find a better scope at the price you will pay. The other larger magnifications are great as well, but I would have preferred capped/locking windage on those models and am partial to FFP reticles featuring some type of donut feature for quick acquisition at low power.
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Can you take a "through the scope" picture? With that design you need fairly good illumination to work on low power.
ILya
I have the 3-18x56 Mrad and haven’t got any time behind yet but just looking through it I find it very impressive for what you pay for it.
ive had mine for an extremely short time(1week).
shot a match saturday with it.
pros (imo) :
it’s heavy duty, really clear, tracks great, illumination is good.
cons (imo) : windage doesn’t lock
(i was aware when i purchased, not a huge deal to me if you pay attention).
mrad 1RD reticle isn’t best for wind holds.
these are my personal opinions, every body is different.
I do really like this scope and will purchase another - without MRAD1
*my scope does have a twisted reticle and meopta is aware of the issue.
talked to them friday about repair or replacement.
customer service is important to me so my opinion of meopta may change if things go south.
shot a match saturday with it.
pros (imo) :
it’s heavy duty, really clear, tracks great, illumination is good.
cons (imo) : windage doesn’t lock
(i was aware when i purchased, not a huge deal to me if you pay attention).
mrad 1RD reticle isn’t best for wind holds.
these are my personal opinions, every body is different.
I do really like this scope and will purchase another - without MRAD1
*my scope does have a twisted reticle and meopta is aware of the issue.
talked to them friday about repair or replacement.
customer service is important to me so my opinion of meopta may change if things go south.
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Twisted reticle? I haven’t heard of this issue. I take it the reticle issue level when the scope is level?
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I found a sunshade that fits the 56mm objective models. The one that Athlon sells for the Area ETR fits my 5-30x56 perfectly.
That's good to know. I contacted Meopta USA about sun shades and they said they were expecting to have them available April/May, but that was said before the virus stuff really got going effecting commerce etc.
Thanks for the heads up. That's a standard stock item so if anyone needs one please give a call. $29.99 shipped for the members here
doug is there a better image of these reticles in these scopes? the 3-18 50 and 56 especially?
Our web builder has put together a Reticle Reference page that we are constantly updating as we get better details
The objective is a Butler Creek size 48. The ocular is a Monstrum 43-48mm that I got from Amazon. I really like the Monstrum cover, very similar to the Vortex defender covers but half the price. I've got a Vortex defender on order for the objective because the Monstrum cover is so easy to use that it makes the Butler Creek cover feel like a piece of junk. I had to go with the Vortex O-56 (62-66mm) because the biggest one Monstrum offers is 55-62mm and the objective outer diameter is 63.5mm on this scope.
What flip caps are you using? I haven't been able to find flip caps that fit yet.
Edit: nvm, saw above post. Thanks!
Can anyone with a SFP 1-6 tell me how the brightness compares to a P4xi or a PST Gen 2?
Someone posted some first impressions over at ARFCOM a couple of months ago and mentioned the brightness is slightly less than a P4xi. I believe he said the Meopta is about "1 setting behind the P4xi" in terms of brightness.
I too would be interested to hear some more opinions on the 1-6. Very had to find any detailed thoughts on these scopes even though they've been around for quite a few months. At $400 ish street price, this seems like a strong competitor to the P4xi if the view on 1x is good and the illumination is decent.
I ordered a Tango6t 1-6 for a really good price, but I would still look at the Meopta for another rifle if more info was out there. I'll check the Ar15 archives. Thanks.
I'm currently selling a Tango 6, 3-18x44 Gen2 scope with a DEV-L MOA ret. Its just too darn heavy, and the eyebox to me sucks at 15-18 magnification. I'm really tempted to jump on an Optika 3-18 right now, with an MRAD ret. I made the mistake of looking at some landmarks this week with both the Tango and my S&B PMII, and I get now why German glass is raved about.
I know the Meopta isn't top tier, but the things you guys are saying make me feel like it won't be a step down from the Tango 6 it would replace (which granted isn't top tier either). Seems the Meopta over the Sig I will have better glass, better light gathering, and a much better eye-box with either the 50 or 56mm tubes. I can't find an MRAD anywhere in 50 mm so I may bite and get the 56 which is in stock.
The plan is to put the scope on either my lightweight 2A Creedmore build, or a POF 308. Let me know if you guys have any better recommendations, just wanting to plink and do some hunting with the scope. I actually hunt way more with ARs than I do bolt guns, call it a preference/comfort thing I guess.
Preference is strongly FFP with a Christmas reticle. I wish I could find a lighter scope, but it feels I compromise no matter what decision I make. The older I get the more my eyes need forgiving glass and a good eyebox.
I know the Meopta isn't top tier, but the things you guys are saying make me feel like it won't be a step down from the Tango 6 it would replace (which granted isn't top tier either). Seems the Meopta over the Sig I will have better glass, better light gathering, and a much better eye-box with either the 50 or 56mm tubes. I can't find an MRAD anywhere in 50 mm so I may bite and get the 56 which is in stock.
The plan is to put the scope on either my lightweight 2A Creedmore build, or a POF 308. Let me know if you guys have any better recommendations, just wanting to plink and do some hunting with the scope. I actually hunt way more with ARs than I do bolt guns, call it a preference/comfort thing I guess.
Preference is strongly FFP with a Christmas reticle. I wish I could find a lighter scope, but it feels I compromise no matter what decision I make. The older I get the more my eyes need forgiving glass and a good eyebox.
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That’s the MRAD RD correct? I asked the guy Erik from Meopta and he said the only one it’s available in is the 5-30x56 and that’s all I’ve seen on their site as well. Where did you find the 3-18 with the MRAD RD?
My memory could be failing me but didn't Ilya do both types of MRAD reticles? I wanted the one with the donut, as I may use this optic for hunting. I assume its the illuminated MRAD or whatever. The listing on Scopelist (Ty hooked me up) does say illuminated MRAD. I agree though I didn't think they made one on the 3-18 version without the donut of death. Guess I'll find out on Thursday when it arrives!
Here's the link for my order: https://www.scopelist.com/Meopta-Optika6-3-18x56-Illuminated-MRAD-30mm-FFP-Riflescope-653587.aspx.
Here's the link for my order: https://www.scopelist.com/Meopta-Optika6-3-18x56-Illuminated-MRAD-30mm-FFP-Riflescope-653587.aspx.
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Just got the 5-30 last week. Its surprisingly good. If it wasnt up to the task it was destined for my Sako Quad. I'll try it out on the 6.5creed when this isolation stuff is over. Have a ATACR F1, razor 4.5-27, XRS2, and mk6 3-18 to test it against. Whilst it isn't a NF or Razor, and is still behind the XRS2 (didn't check against MK6), it is terrific value for money. The only things I can be critical on is parallax needs adjusting between ranges more often to say the NF, and the eyebox isn't as forgiving above 20x. With a adjustable cheek this really isn't an issue though. I give this scope a big thumbs up, certainly is great value.
When I can get out I will check it out on target compared to the other I have. Also need to find scope caps... Anybody know the sizes? Eye piece looks big!
Good stuff I thought he did the regular MRAD on the 5-30 I didn’t realize he did the donut, I watched another video where he goes over the regular Mrad and didn’t mention the donut
The objective is 63.5mm, a Butler Creek size 48 or Vortex Defender O-56 fits. The ocular is 46.5mm. I used a Monstrum 43-48mm that I got from Amazon.
The Athlon 56mm sunshade also fits the Optika6 56mm objective threads.
My Optika6 arrived today, I have no regrets. LOVE the reticle, thanks Ilya! I've been testing it in different light scenarios since this afternoon, and its much better than the Sig for my purposes. One can easily make it out at 3x. Unlike the Sig, the eyebox is easy to get and stay behind at all magnification settings. I don't feel I downgraded in any way. Glass to me is very good, and showed good resolution and color. Scope also is lighter by 5 or 6 ounces. The reticle to me is easier to read than the DEV-L was.
I love the knurled turrets. Parralax goes down to 10 yards which is incredible. Clicks are quite good for the price range. Warranty is lifetime transferable, and I got a digital certificate from Meopta when I registered.
If I had any complaints, the parallax while seemingly accurate is a bit more picky than the Sig. Its not a huge issue, and when you get it right the picture pops. Also, the windage turret is in Mils, but it appears there are only 8 notches per number, while still taking 10 clicks to go from 0 to 1, or 2 to 3. The field of view also is serviceable, but not great. The scope on our digital scale is right at 32 ounces. Wish it wasn't quite so porky, but it does feel solid and quality as others have said.
All in all very happy, hope to go to the range for sighting in this or next weekend.
I love the knurled turrets. Parralax goes down to 10 yards which is incredible. Clicks are quite good for the price range. Warranty is lifetime transferable, and I got a digital certificate from Meopta when I registered.
If I had any complaints, the parallax while seemingly accurate is a bit more picky than the Sig. Its not a huge issue, and when you get it right the picture pops. Also, the windage turret is in Mils, but it appears there are only 8 notches per number, while still taking 10 clicks to go from 0 to 1, or 2 to 3. The field of view also is serviceable, but not great. The scope on our digital scale is right at 32 ounces. Wish it wasn't quite so porky, but it does feel solid and quality as others have said.
All in all very happy, hope to go to the range for sighting in this or next weekend.
Thanks! Let me know what you think of the dichro reticle when you get it. Seems people love it or hate it.
Have a 16inch 6.5 Grendel build just about finished. To be used on hogs after we move to texas by year's end. I think I'll go with one of these in the 1-6 with the 4C reticle. Even if it's not quite "daylight bright", illumination would only really be necessary in low light situations anyway.
Just read through all 14 pages of this thread & feeling pretty good about it as my choice.
Just read through all 14 pages of this thread & feeling pretty good about it as my choice.
Big let down for me...bought a 3-18x56 FFP with MRAD reticle (new)...from factory...somehow it made it out with MIL elevation turret and a MOA windage turret...somehow QC didn't catch it...so when I discovered it...promptly reached out to Meopta (which they responded in 15 min of sending a message...great job)...they stated they would have to get a part from Czech...well with COVID19...who knows how long that will take and what else was missed in my optic quality wise...so I returned it...
Optically...it didn't come close to the LRTS x18 optics I have but better than a Vortex PST...compared to my LRTS, it felt "flatter" with a tad more CA at 18X...feel of the turrets did feel great...if you are going to dial...there are no indicators as to what rev you are on...so just be aware...
Diopter Eyepiece had a weird feel to it...it was uber loose feeling 1/2 turn out...than it would tighten...1/4 more turn loose......1/2 turn tight again...I didn't see/feel any play in it...but there was something def weird going on like the tube was out of spec...
The MRAD reticle in the Optika6 is pretty awesome...wish it wasn't in this optic as the quality mishaps do not give me confidence again for me to spend $700+ on it...
Again, so far...for me...the Bushnell LRTS line of optics, in its price point, is super super hard to beat...I bought a S&B PMII and will see how it compares (I am no a brand snob of any kind...I care about what works and doesn't)...because so far...I have tried a lot of optics below the price range of Alpha scopes...and my conclusion is (I am an amateur, not a pro with zero involvement in the industry to pad a brand)...there is a lot of fluff marketing without backing it up with value...the Bushy LRTS has no crazy marketing...but it has a lot of value...
Optically...it didn't come close to the LRTS x18 optics I have but better than a Vortex PST...compared to my LRTS, it felt "flatter" with a tad more CA at 18X...feel of the turrets did feel great...if you are going to dial...there are no indicators as to what rev you are on...so just be aware...
Diopter Eyepiece had a weird feel to it...it was uber loose feeling 1/2 turn out...than it would tighten...1/4 more turn loose......1/2 turn tight again...I didn't see/feel any play in it...but there was something def weird going on like the tube was out of spec...
The MRAD reticle in the Optika6 is pretty awesome...wish it wasn't in this optic as the quality mishaps do not give me confidence again for me to spend $700+ on it...
Again, so far...for me...the Bushnell LRTS line of optics, in its price point, is super super hard to beat...I bought a S&B PMII and will see how it compares (I am no a brand snob of any kind...I care about what works and doesn't)...because so far...I have tried a lot of optics below the price range of Alpha scopes...and my conclusion is (I am an amateur, not a pro with zero involvement in the industry to pad a brand)...there is a lot of fluff marketing without backing it up with value...the Bushy LRTS has no crazy marketing...but it has a lot of value...
Thanks LRTS Optika6 and swfa 3-15 were at the top of my list, bushy is a bit more expensive but I haven’t heard a bad word about them
