Honoring all the police officers that have quit their job instead of following all these unconstitutional “mandates”……..so please feel free to post here……
I just wanted to start a thread ……..
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I #backtheblue
And fully understand that “you can’t criticize if you haven’t #donethejob”
If we can’t criticize them for enforcing unconstitutional laws we sure can’t praise them for not enforcing unconstitutional laws.
Remember. Police ensure we have liberty. No police no peace. They are the keepers and protectors of your constitutional privileges
The founding fathers in their infinite wisdom gave us the constitution. THAT insures
we have liberty
good men ensure we have peace, if men weren’t generally good no police force in the world would keep the peace
they don’t seem to be doing a very good job keeping and protecting our constitutional rights.
pol pot, Stalin and hitler all used their police forces to eliminate their undesirables…….
Police are here to protect your government given constitutional privileges
they deserve and will get your respect praise and admiration. Anything they do is furthering the goals of the state therefore helping you.
Very few policemen will quit their jobs. It is important to remember, Hitler didn't fire the policemen......................he simply changed the laws and 99% of them simply enforced the new laws. It worked fine for Stalin, Clinton, Mao, Biden and other evil people, they simply change the law.
What you see is a gradual change in policing. They are moving cops away from stopping crimes of violence, theft, drugs, abuse and larceny towards enforcing edicts from power crazed socialists. And for the most part policemen and women are gladly following their master's orders. They need jobs, medical insurance and homes just like everyone else.
In Portland on August 29th 2020 a Patriot Prayer member was executed on a city street in the presence of at least six Portland PD officers and a news crew. They watched the murder and allowed the Antifa communists to leave the scene, offered little or no help to the victim, did not investigation and filed no charges. The US Marshals Service went after the murderer because he was a wanted felon from Washington state.
Two days ago in Portland, their cops stood down while Antifa communists attacked counter protestors, before that cops allowed Antifa communists to attack a multi racial crowd in a city park holding a prayer vigil. Communists attacked screaming, "hail Satan" and shooting fireworks at children. cops sided with communists and did nothing.
Kenosha Wisconsin, a young man armed with a rifle defended himself against a violent attack by Antifa felons, a armed pedophile and an armed druggie and a felon who literally pretended to be a medic and ran up to him brandishing a pistol fully intending to execute the young man. That kid is charged with multiple murders for legally defending himself. Cops did the investigation and will aid in the prosecution, thus defending communism.
99.99% of state and local law enforcement will gladly join the FBI and most other Federal law enforcement in their war against America, their hatred of God and their desire to destroy the rights enshrined in the Constitution.
What you see is a gradual change in policing. They are moving cops away from stopping crimes of violence, theft, drugs, abuse and larceny towards enforcing edicts from power crazed socialists. And for the most part policemen and women are gladly following their master's orders. They need jobs, medical insurance and homes just like everyone else.
In Portland on August 29th 2020 a Patriot Prayer member was executed on a city street in the presence of at least six Portland PD officers and a news crew. They watched the murder and allowed the Antifa communists to leave the scene, offered little or no help to the victim, did not investigation and filed no charges. The US Marshals Service went after the murderer because he was a wanted felon from Washington state.
Two days ago in Portland, their cops stood down while Antifa communists attacked counter protestors, before that cops allowed Antifa communists to attack a multi racial crowd in a city park holding a prayer vigil. Communists attacked screaming, "hail Satan" and shooting fireworks at children. cops sided with communists and did nothing.
Kenosha Wisconsin, a young man armed with a rifle defended himself against a violent attack by Antifa felons, a armed pedophile and an armed druggie and a felon who literally pretended to be a medic and ran up to him brandishing a pistol fully intending to execute the young man. That kid is charged with multiple murders for legally defending himself. Cops did the investigation and will aid in the prosecution, thus defending communism.
99.99% of state and local law enforcement will gladly join the FBI and most other Federal law enforcement in their war against America, their hatred of God and their desire to destroy the rights enshrined in the Constitution.
Police Officers are, for the most part, drawn from the local communities. They reflect that communities morals and standards.
Police in liberal shitholes are, more likely than not, going to be liberal.
Police Officers in conservative areas are more likely to be conservative.
There are, of course, outliers.
Massachusetts cops, by and large, are anti-gun, because Massachusetts is by and large, anti-gun.
Same for Rhode Island and New Jersey.
New York city cops are likely anti-gun and big proponents of the socialist dream, upstate New York, not so much.
Same can be said for many other places, especially Portland, the good officers have already left, along with those in Seattle.
Police in liberal shitholes are, more likely than not, going to be liberal.
Police Officers in conservative areas are more likely to be conservative.
There are, of course, outliers.
Massachusetts cops, by and large, are anti-gun, because Massachusetts is by and large, anti-gun.
Same for Rhode Island and New Jersey.
New York city cops are likely anti-gun and big proponents of the socialist dream, upstate New York, not so much.
Same can be said for many other places, especially Portland, the good officers have already left, along with those in Seattle.
I’m in law enforcement. I believe in the constitution and defend it every day. I work with local, state, and federal LE. They do too. Im not walking away from my job because I believe in it. Good luck with a hypothetical society without law enforcement. LEO’s are people just like anywhere else. You can spin things how you want, but a VAST majority of these guys are just trying to do what’s right. Many of the examples that are brought up has more to do with politicians or the court systems.
Not that you’re responsive for the way that I feel but there are a lot of LEO’s on this site and it is incredibly offensive to put us down. We are all professionals here.
Have a good one.
Not that you’re responsive for the way that I feel but there are a lot of LEO’s on this site and it is incredibly offensive to put us down. We are all professionals here.
Have a good one.
How does
“don’t be a criminal with a badge , don’t enforce unconstitutional laws, and don’t push the boundaries / make up new ways to do unconstitutional things “
turn into
“you want no police anywhere “
SMMFH
I think the point is this.
Imagine being a deputy or police in California, and arresting a dude and charging him for possession of a 15rd glock magazine. The end. That’s the sole charge.
What they mean by believing in constitution is..would you walk away from your job if you were put in a position that the state made you enforce a unconstitutional law?
These are legit questions. Don’t get butt hurt that people are having the hard talk. You should be talking about this with people you work with.
I have multiple deployments in Afghanistan. Given the current news, I still will say what I said then…we should have never attempted to win hearts and minds there. Even as government tools, we especially can recognize the stupidity of our employers.
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I’m not butt hurt man, just speaking my piece.
I can’t imagine charging someone as listed in your example, nor have I. The problem is blanket statements much like what happens to all of us shooters. If these statements were coming the extreme left of something of that nature I wouldn’t waste my breath. But when it’s coming from our own kind it bothers me.
Of course we talk about things like this. Have I met cops as listed in examples of other posts? Sure have and they normally do not last very long. As for me and every work associate of mine, we love this country and stand for it. We just don’t appreciate being grouped into a criminal group. We are all citizens first.
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It’s vitally important to the commies that they create mistrust between the police and their fellow citizens. This creates animosity towards the police, which creates animosity towards their fellow citizens, and the cycle continues.
By having this mistrust, the commies create a self fulfilling prophecy.
Don’t feed the commies.
By having this mistrust, the commies create a self fulfilling prophecy.
Don’t feed the commies.
thats a 2 way street there bud.
cops cant continue to enforce BLATANTLY unconstitutional laws and then go "well you have to trust us, its a commie plot to make you distrust me"....
Bud? Such a disrespectful way to address someone. Mr. or Sir would have been much more appropriate.
I’m not here to argue which laws are enforced by whom.
Im really not here to argue at all.
I’m just pointing out that the division is intentional. Add in defund the police, record retirement of the older force, and refunding the police to hire new people educated under today’s current indoctrination system, and you can see how the whole demographic can change in an organization in a matter of years.
Ok got it…you can speak your piece but the rest of us can’t, why that sounds vaguely familiar…….
I respect law enforcement. I despise those corrupt and abusive of their powers, as I believe they are a minority. One of my best friends is a retired statey. I have but one question.
Will you arrest someone who refuses to take a "vaccine" when push comes to shove?
We have talked about this one too. I haven’t found anybody who would be willing to do this but I’m sure there’s some out there. One of the local municipal chiefs released an order that if anyone made such arrest due to an ordinance such as that they’d be fired no questions asked.
I’m sure they will arrest people at restaurants , employment , etc that didn’t get the bs not a vaccine
No way would I want to be a cop in the world today.... and I recognize all the good that they do and appreciate it. But in general they are not doing themselves any favors with the way they interact with people. When you have a completely un-needed and un-constitutional interaction with them it doesn't inspire confidence--
C- Window down.
M- I can hear you.
C- Where you going tonight?
M- To my destination.
C- Oh- it's going to be like that. Well were just out here making sure no one is drinking and driving. What's your name?
M- How does my name help you know if I've been drinking?
C- I'm just doing my job and need to ID you.
M- Do you have a reason to suspect that I'm drunk? Did I break a law?
C- We're just stopping everyone- for public safety. Just doing my job.
I worry that many will "just do their job."
C- Window down.
M- I can hear you.
C- Where you going tonight?
M- To my destination.
C- Oh- it's going to be like that. Well were just out here making sure no one is drinking and driving. What's your name?
M- How does my name help you know if I've been drinking?
C- I'm just doing my job and need to ID you.
M- Do you have a reason to suspect that I'm drunk? Did I break a law?
C- We're just stopping everyone- for public safety. Just doing my job.
I worry that many will "just do their job."
As a ER doc, I've worked/interacted with LE quite a bit in the last 20 years. I doubt a shift goes by where I don't have at least one interaction with LE. The vast majority of LE I have been around have been completely professional in the face of an increasingly tough job. A very small percentage were not good cops, acted cocky, they tended to go away over time. A few cops are in my mountain bike group, cool dudes, no different than the rest of us.
DTF370, I respect your commitment to doing your job and being committed to what you believe is 'right'. Fuck anybody who does not have the mental capacity to consider/evaluate you individually and instead all they use is a broad brush to paint LE as all the same.
I’ve got 16 in and never enforced something unconstitutional and will refuse to. They are pushing the vaccine hard right not but I’m not gonna do it and will walk if it comes to that. I had a job before this one and I’ll find another after it. I was hoping to lock in my hazardous duty pay and have 4 years left but standing on principles and on the side of the constitution and our God given rights are more important.
Folks need to understand that public employees do not work for us. They work for the people in power who write their checks, promote them and control the keys to their pension. That’s reality........
Saying your gonna walk and doing it are miles apart, im Sure you’ve noticed not one person has posted that they have walked, a lot will say they are gonna but not one has….. just crickets,
I’m going to revive this thread until this is over one way or another and will see how many post here……
im not holding my breath…..
You smoothbrains get mad when lefties paint us conservatives with the generalizations paint brush, then turn around and paint LEO’s with the same brush while sitting on your high horse, is the mind-boggling hypocrisy that make me clutch my pearls and say “what the fuck you tards talkin about?”
as a former LEO, I can say this with 100% certainty, there are good cops. At least where I live. And yes, there are dick sucking bad cops.
treat each other as individuals, not as groups.
as a former LEO, I can say this with 100% certainty, there are good cops. At least where I live. And yes, there are dick sucking bad cops.
treat each other as individuals, not as groups.
Ahh yes. Smoothbrain chieftain speaks up. Keep swinging on those strawman arguments. Someone here should think you’re cool. Certainly not me.
Lumping all LEO’s as bad. Look, I hate all of this as much as anyone. You have to be pragmatic and look at people as individuals or else you will get burned. Bad. That’s what I’m trying to say.
I haven't walked yet, and I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna because I'm not a cowardly, Sunshine Patriot. I get up and go to work every day trying to help someone who's a victim. I try to Support and Defend the Constitution like I swear I will.
Someday I might be ordered to do something I don't agree with; maybe even something un-Constitutional. I'll push back, refuse, whatever. But, I won't bitch-out and quit, turning the whole thing over to the enemy. They'll have to fire me.
I'm not happy with everything going on in Law Enforcement, but I'm not a coward and I'm not gonna listen to any internet coward suggest that I quit because she isn't happy with everything going on in Law Enforcement, either.
I keep hearing the “government” but yet you’re putting all the blame on LEOs. Why don’t you blame the government then? You doing this is like saying a rifle committed a mass shoot instead of a person committed the mass shooting. I don’t know you and I certainly don’t know what you’ve been through in life but your complaints sounds like you have a personal issue with LEO’s more than anything.
Your hubris and false understanding has blinded you to what I said.
keep swinging at the strawmen.
keep swinging at the strawmen.
Oh man, I know it’s a shit storm. I hate dirty cops more than commies. Yes “cops” are enforcing commie shit.
but tell me you’re not so stupid to think all cops are bad.
look, it’s as simple as saying, “all cops defending the commies are bad” yes. Agreed. But then logic would also dictate “not all cops are defending the commies” therefore not ALL cops are bad. You are trying to stereotype out of a select pool of “cops”.
You are 100% stereotyping with your confirmation bias.
You think you are wise, but you look like a fool. You need to get off the Dunning-Kruger curve. You’re stuck on MT. Stupid. I understand what you’re trying to convey. You just have it skewed.
Oh yes, bad badges are entwined, but stop being so dense to say they are all the same. It’s getting old. It’s not muddy water. It’s perfectly clear. You have the muddy glasses on.
The kind of police officer you all want to have is maybe 5% of the department and not liked by management.
The problem we LEOs we have ran into is that they do the bidding of leftist gov all the time. In Texas, red suburbia, Plano Texas, BLM blocks intersections, and a guy that had his car blocked in starts yelling at them, he is ushered away by Plano PD while blm blocks a very busy intersection.
Portland, antifa basically has a free pass to do as they wish and the cops watch them do it. Someone on the right responds and they are quickly arrested and ushered away.
the individual cops aren’t necessarily bad, but these little events where “the chief said we had too sooo we did” are getting more frequent and are one sided.
@Bender whag I believe at @wade2big is getting at is, you @Bender are constantly saying “let’s get on with it” “are we starting yet” etc. but you do realize that when we do “get on with it” and decide to stop having our rights tampled on, pushing back in any way will immediately be met by the thin blue flag, which has been proven over and over. The whole law and order system is being unequally applied and that starts with the LEO as a general statement.
go start and unvaxxed lives matter protest, block intersections and chaos mayhem and see how fast everyone is arrested.
Portland, antifa basically has a free pass to do as they wish and the cops watch them do it. Someone on the right responds and they are quickly arrested and ushered away.
the individual cops aren’t necessarily bad, but these little events where “the chief said we had too sooo we did” are getting more frequent and are one sided.
@Bender whag I believe at @wade2big is getting at is, you @Bender are constantly saying “let’s get on with it” “are we starting yet” etc. but you do realize that when we do “get on with it” and decide to stop having our rights tampled on, pushing back in any way will immediately be met by the thin blue flag, which has been proven over and over. The whole law and order system is being unequally applied and that starts with the LEO as a general statement.
go start and unvaxxed lives matter protest, block intersections and chaos mayhem and see how fast everyone is arrested.
I'm so tired of people hiding behind the constitution to attack policies and political views they don't like. Our country is built on checks and balances, courts, laws and people. People with various views who vote, sit on juries, become constitutional lawyers, run for office and exercise their free speech regardless of experience, expertise on the subject or wit.
You don't like the policy, fine. But if you are going to say something is unconstitutional, please give some references from actual experts to back it up.
What is constitutional is what the supreme court decides is constitutional. Here are the precident cases. Note both were argued over the 14th amendment on due process, not over if the government could mandate a vaccine.
You don't like the policy, fine. But if you are going to say something is unconstitutional, please give some references from actual experts to back it up.
What is constitutional is what the supreme court decides is constitutional. Here are the precident cases. Note both were argued over the 14th amendment on due process, not over if the government could mandate a vaccine.
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All cops aren't bad. Use to be the high school loser that got caught peeping in the girl's locker room, the fat endomorhic slug that couldn't do one push-up/pull-up to make a passing grade in gym class much less play sports, went on to be the cop that vowed to arrest you and everyone else on the varsity football team that made fun of him. I've witnessed this personally.
Then I've seen a better grade of applicant's in recent years that came out of the military after being deployed in the ME. Unlike the loser with a chip on his shoulder, most of those guys have a sense of self respect that keeps them from being a power starved chickenshit.
The problem is, the good guys, however honorable, will not step across the blue line and go against the bad cops. They may turn their back and distance themselves, a rare few may even quit and give up their pension, but forget them from coming forward or 'seeing anything' when the punk with a badge gets caught being a tyrant. They too know what retribution for not honoring the code can bring. I've witnessed this first hand also.
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