KMW thread

Scotch_egg · May 10, 2024

There appears to be a few other topics discussing niche builders of precision rifles.
Terry Cross builds awesome rifles.

A KMW appreciation and discussion topic appears to be missing. I’ve had a few AI’s and still own a baby AX and had TRG’s. The KMW stock is so comfortable and this rifle has opened my eyes to Remington clones again.

This is a 7mm SAUM, Bat VR actioned rifle that had to be built in the U. K. so isn’t a true KMW Sentinal rifle sadly. Although it shoots lights out.

Hunt · May 15, 2024

Terry built me a .308 on a McM A5 back in 07-08. It’s still one of my most accurate rifles.

diggler1833 · May 15, 2024

I will 100% be contacting Terry this winter to submit my order for a Sentinel.

I was hesitant to drop that amount of money without ever having had my hands on one, but the 'smith I use had one at his shop one day while I was there. Very ergonomic.

Scotch_egg · May 15, 2024

It would be good to see more Sentinals in one place

solidwater · May 27, 2024

I have a KMW MK-1 DBM on my custom build. It's super nice. Absolutely love it!

Scotch_egg · May 28, 2024

I can’t believe no one else is posting their KMW stocked rifles or Sentinal Rifles built by Terry.

XLR308 · May 28, 2024

solidwater said:
I have a KMW MK-1 DBM on my custom build. It's super nice. Absolutely love it!

I am looking to get one as well for a Manners T4, the captive mag featutre is what caught my attention.
Genius and surprised it wasn't done before.

solidwater · May 28, 2024

XLR308 said:
I am looking to get one as well for a Manners T4, the captive mag featutre is what caught my attention.
Genius and surprised it wasn't done before.

That's so cool! Love the innovation!

XLR308 · May 28, 2024

solidwater said:
That's so cool! Love the innovation!

Same here Terry is one of the mad scientist around here that has the gift of seeing things others dont.
Pretty switched on from a noobs perspective like mine.
I just try and pay attention and keep my foot out of my mouth.

Terry Cross · May 29, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
I can’t believe no one else is posting their KMW stocked rifles or Sentinal Rifles built by Terry.

I am flattered that you would want to start a thread related to anything KMW, so Thank You for the kind thought.

Do not be too surprised if you get a low participation response to this thread.

Two primary reasons.
1: The vast majority of my rifle clientele are not SH members. Out of the few that are, most of those are not really "active" but rather in the
background.

2: KMW does not crank out a ton of rifles per year. I have other help in the shop but I am the only rifle builder. Some of the other shops with
several guys knocking out rifles will ship more in a month than I do in a year. This makes for a low saturation number in a large market.

Besides having a limited number of rifles I can build each year, my lane is actually very narrow.
I do not build PRS rifles and even though shit gets killed on a regular basis with KMW rifles, I don't build "hunting" rifles. Doing either or both would get 100 x more exposure on public forums.

KMW is blessed to stay very busy building rifles, stocks and lots of OEM hardware used by others. I appreciate the community as a whole allowing me to survive and grow.

I have been on the SH site for over 20yrs now. I appreciate @Lowlight putting up with the drama and BS that goes with this forum, so that we can share info as well as entertain ourselves.

mildot326 · May 29, 2024

I built my own rifle, LOL, but using a KMW stock, sales & service both "top shelf".

Nik H · May 29, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
There appears to be a few other topics discussing niche builders of precision rifles.
Terry Cross builds awesome rifles.

A KMW appreciation and discussion topic appears to be missing. I’ve had a few AI’s and still own a baby AX and had TRG’s. The KMW stock is so comfortable and this rifle has opened my eyes to Remington clones again.

This is a 7mm SAUM, Bat VR actioned rifle that had to be built in the U. K. so isn’t a true KMW Sentinal rifle sadly. Although it shoots lights out.

I have a couple of AIs and am quite used to them.

This is a KMW sentinel stocked TacOps in LH. I LOVE this stock and the rifle is a laser.

Scotch_egg · May 29, 2024

Terry Cross said:
I am flattered that you would want to start a thread related to anything KMW, so Thank You for the kind thought.

Do not be too surprised if you get a low participation response to this thread.

Two primary reasons.
1: The vast majority of my rifle clientele are not SH members. Out of the few that are, most of those are not really "active" but rather in the
background.

2: KMW does not crank out a ton of rifles per year. I have other help in the shop but I am the only rifle builder. Some of the other shops with
several guys knocking out rifles will ship more in a month than I do in a year. This makes for a low saturation number in a large market.

Besides having a limited number of rifles I can build each year, my lane is actually very narrow.
I do not build PRS rifles and even though shit gets killed on a regular basis with KMW rifles, I don't build "hunting" rifles. Doing either or both would get 100 x more exposure on public forums.

KMW is blessed to stay very busy building rifles, stocks and lots of OEM hardware used by others. I appreciate the community as a whole allowing me to survive and grow.

I have been on the SH site for over 20yrs now. I appreciate @Lowlight putting up with the drama and BS that goes with this forum, so that we can share info as well as entertain ourselves.

Nik H said:
I have a couple of AIs and am quite used to them.

This is a KMW sentinel stocked TacOps in LH. I LOVE this stock and the rifle is a laser.

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@Terry Cross

Great to see you replying, my rifle actually came from a British pal of yours, also called Terry. I understand your rifles are mostly in the hands of understated users but it’s also nice to show end user appreciation of what is such an ergonomic product. If I could get my hands on one of the carbon stocks that our mutual pal has I would trade a kidney! Definitely a production worthy update IMHO. But alas I appreciate your business ethos of a small business and not wanting to up production at the risk of a loss in quality. Keep’em coming and maybe one day the carbon stock will come to production. Best regards.

@Nik H
What a cracker. I’ve been sorely tempted to have mine refreshed and that black is inspirational. Thank you for sharing.

taliv · May 29, 2024

Don’t let Terry fool you. His stocks get around…. Unfortunately I’ve only had five of them.

On the tree of woe at an OK PRS match

Rock Lake PRS

Q ranch WY PRS ELR match

Somewhere cold

Gnome hunting in blue ridge mountains

Trying new clip on

Edit to add one more: getting hailed on elk hunting in SW CO with the Stuteville clan

JohnDeereGuy1996 · May 29, 2024

@GunGasm

Papagallos · May 29, 2024

JohnDeereGuy1996 said:
@GunGasm

LMAO. You beat me to it. @GunGasm You have been summoned.

Mr. Terry Cross is an outstanding gunsmith and a wonderful human being.

0724/1030 · May 29, 2024

Don’t you summon that demon @JohnDeereGuy1996!

@Terry Cross is being modest as always. The Sentinel continues to be my favorite stock going back to the Gen 1. In addition, I have yet to find another chassis system with the RTZ and repeatability of the IMB.

GunGasm · May 29, 2024

@Papagallos @JohnDeereGuy1996 @0724/1030 @Terry Cross y’all calling down the thunder!

Terry knows the depth of my depravity

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · May 30, 2024

I’ll play.

I’m NOT one of the super secret squirrel professionals, just a hobbiest. Got mine second hand, always wanted one and it does not disappoint at all!

GunGasm · May 30, 2024

I’ll play, kick it old school…

0724/1030 · May 30, 2024

How’s it shoot?

lizzardking308 · May 30, 2024

I’ll play.

Scotch_egg · May 30, 2024

0724/1030 said:
How’s it shoot?

Not sure who you are asking.

0724/1030 · May 30, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
Not sure who you are asking.

Bit of an inside joke for those that know @GunGasm

Scotch_egg · May 30, 2024

0724/1030 said:
Bit of an inside joke for those that know @GunGasm

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Ahhh the inside joke. I’ll also share the footage of my Mrs first shot with my rifle.

GunGasm · May 30, 2024

Few builds from the man himself @Terry Cross

Scotch_egg · May 30, 2024

GunGasm said:
Few builds from the man himself @Terry Cross

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Never in a month of Sundays did I expect one person to have so many KMW stocked rifles.

I take my hat off to you!

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · May 30, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
Never in a month of Sundays did I expect one person to have so many KMW stocked rifles.

I take my hat off to you!

Should have only bought one, I hen he would have money for glass.

I kid. I kid.

Terry Cross · May 30, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
Never in a month of Sundays did I expect one person to have so many KMW stocked rifles.

I take my hat off to you!

Those aren't just KMW stocked. The complete builds were done by KMW.

@GunGasm was dropped on his head as a child and doesn't exercise good judgment. LOL.

In all seriousness, that middle rifle was a really cool project done for the Lone Survivor Foundation. I'm glad it is in your hands and has a good home. Thanks for sharing the pics.

Scotch_egg · May 31, 2024

Terry Cross said:
Those aren't just KMW stocked. The complete builds were done by KMW.

@GunGasm was dropped on his head as a child and doesn't exercise good judgment. LOL.

In all seriousness, that middle rifle was a really cool project done for the Lone Survivor Foundation. I'm glad it is in your hands and has a good home. Thanks for sharing the pics.

I did suspect they were true KMW sentinal’s I can but only dream. Unless of course Terry decides to move on his rifle which I can’t see happening.

There really is something about carbon that catches the eye. How about a forged carbon Sentinal? Different to then carbon weave of the masses. I would love a light weight 6.5X47 with an 18” barrel for my stalking (hunting) setup.

47chevycoe · May 31, 2024

Only picture I have at the moment. Wasn’t sure what to expect when I purchased the stock, but it’s fantastic.

GunGasm · May 31, 2024

Here ya go @Scotch_egg

Scotch_egg · May 31, 2024

GunGasm said:
Here ya go @Scotch_egg
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Stop it!

What does it weigh in at?

GunGasm · May 31, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
Stop it!

What does it weigh in at?

@Scotch_egg I'll take it to the office this evening and weigh it

Terry Cross · May 31, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
There really is something about carbon that catches the eye. How about a forged carbon Sentinal? Different to then carbon weave of the masses. I would love a light weight 6.5X47 with an 18” barrel for my stalking (hunting) setup.

There was a lot of issues with McM molding the CF versions of my SENTINEL shells. Their molding process is not efficient with a lot of complex curves and corners so there was a large % of shells that were unusable coming out of the mold.

Also, due to the amount of embedded hardware in the SENTINEL, you will never see a truly ultralight version. The magic to the really light stocks is the fill. The ultra light fill cannot handle shear stress so the fear is that any imbedded hardware could tear out in hard use. Accordingly a heavier fill was being used.

I am trying to find time to finish a Gen III model. When that solid model is compete, I will be having a different company molding the shells. They are much better at CF and also have the ability to do a hybrid fill that offers light weight AND shear strength. Maybe at that time, we can experiment with how light weight we can get.

solidwater · May 31, 2024

XLR308 said:
Same here Terry is one of the mad scientist around here that has the gift of seeing things others dont.
Pretty switched on from a noobs perspective like mine.
I just try and pay attention and keep my foot out of my mouth.

Lol!

Terry Cross · Jun 3, 2024

Group of spec SENTINEL Hunters in 6.5 PRC.

blksno · Jun 3, 2024

Zermatt TL3 in 22 Creed - 18"

Scotch_egg · Jun 3, 2024

Out ringing steel with my 7mm SAUM again. I love this rifle. The .223 Tikka didn’t get a look in.

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ · Jun 3, 2024

@Terry Cross can one have a non-folder converted to a folder or does that decision need to be made prior to molding?

TheOE800 · Jun 3, 2024

Terry Cross said:
Group of spec SENTINEL Hunters in 6.5 PRC.
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Gatdam what do you spec from McM for this color?

Terry Cross · Jun 3, 2024

D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷ said:
@Terry Cross can one have a non-folder converted to a folder or does that decision need to be made prior to molding?

Thanks for asking but that would be a solid No Go either way.

The folders were simply a response to an RFP the Marine Corp put out in 2009. The week after all the trial run of hinge parts were machined and the first stocks were delivered here from McMillan, the USMC changed their specs enough to take me out of play. I shot my wad on that initial project and had no $ left to completely redo everything. That game is an arena where only the big boy companies can afford to play.

McMillan insisted in over-engineering the fill and shell at the time which made it heavy. Low numbers of the initial run meant building each out was very labor intensive which made them very expensive. I ended up building about 28 rifles on them and side lined the project due to expense and me not being happy with the end product anyway. The few few folding stocks you see popping up here and there in pics are the result of me recently selling the remaining components as a DIY kit that didn't even include a couple of the parts that were only produced in very small quantities.

Terry Cross · Jun 3, 2024

TheOE800 said:
Gatdam what do you spec from McM for this color?

Ancient Chinese secret.
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McWoody or McWalnut swirls.

Duc · Jun 4, 2024

KMW Hunter in the field ..

NOMAD · Jun 4, 2024

I have Multiple rifles built by the great Terry Cross. I think my first KMW rifle was around 1996-7 time frame. I also own numerous builds on single digit serial number Surgeon actions that Terry has done for me. All those guns are still used and still shooting lights out.

Terry is definitely the go to guy!!!!!! But you already know that.

Duc · Jun 4, 2024

Hi, I too have an addiction with TC’s stuff

diggler1833 · Jun 4, 2024

Duc said:
Hi, I too have an addiction with TC’s stuff
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Thank you for providing photos. I now have a reason to go back to my wife and demand that she let me get a 4th safe (more toys).

Nice collection Sir!

Scotch_egg · Jun 5, 2024

Just a question , just fitted the Trigge lt Tech and my safety won’t engage. Is this a known issue and the stock needs relieving or have I done something wrong.

blksno · Jun 5, 2024

Scotch_egg said:
Just a question , just fitted the Trigge lt Tech and my safety won’t engage. Is this a known issue and the stock needs relieving or have I done something wrong.

Mine works fine

MPrimo · Jun 5, 2024

Origin/Proof/TT/S&B in 308.

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