Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

they went for the prawns.

The ones with Yabbos?

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Sirhr
 

Everyone: “your code breaking skills are amazing.”

FBI guy:

Er… yeah… well thanks!
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Sirhr
 
So I understand why the CSs couldn't just take the guy. Could have just been a guy open carrying on a roof....
But why he wasn't checked out by LE and why Trump wasn't removed to a safe location till he was checked out is beyond me.
'if" the story is true the ss expected local pd or swat be on the roof, and they had bailed because it was "too hot", it does make sense they would want to confirm is wasn't a friendly, but i don't see how they couldn't tell it wasn't pd or swat.
 
His bump stock ban got overturned. So yeah, he might do something in a barter. Still better than rainbow Marxist globalist authoritarian dystopian leftists and their spawn

But as I recall the bump stock ban was in response to Vegas, which hopefully now we/he can appreciate was a fed operation. I think he trusted the feds unfortunately back then, I don't think he trusts them anymore.
 
There is no way that's a real bullet trail.
1 - A camera would never be able to capture that bullet in flight unless a specific type of high speed lense.....and who would be using a 200k$ camera there ?
2 - The bullet path is wrong, the shooter was on top of a building so the angle would be sloping down.

I think someone just photoshopped a planes contrail into the image to maybe make a few bucks or get him some "creds" to his name.
No. Capturing a bullet streak is comon with a modern digital camera... I've accidentally done it myself. The press photog is likely using a $10K lens on a Canon or Nikon FF, shooting at f/5.6 or f/8 to ensure he'll keep Trump in focus and blur the people behjnd him, running ISO 1600 or better, with a shutter speed of 1/1000 sec or faster. If we knew his shutter speed we could work out the bullet's velocity by the length of the streak. It looks to be about a foot, making me wonder if it was a .22 LR AR variant, like a S&W M&P 15-22. And, the image was taken from below where any downward trajectory would be minimized. Oh, the photog is a member of the press pool, and this image was published. I think he must have been flipping through his images, saw this lucky capture, said "OMG!" and sent it to his editor.
 
No. Capturing a bullet streak is comon with a modern digital camera... I've accidentally done it myself. The press photog is likely using a $10K lens on a Canon or Nikon FF, shooting at f/5.6 or f/8 to ensure he'll keep Trump in focus and blur the people behjnd him, running ISO 1600 or better, with a shutter speed of 1/1000 sec or faster. If we knew his shutter speed we could work out the bullet's velocity by the length of the streak. It looks to be about a foot, making me wonder if it was a .22 LR AR variant, like a S&W M&P 15-22. And, the image was taken from below where any downward trajectory would be minimized. Oh, the photog is a member of the press pool, and this image was published. I think he must have been flipping through his images, saw this lucky capture, said "OMG!" and sent it to his editor.

@Lowlight got an epic bullet capture on his iPhone a few months ago.

Sirhr
 
i am sure they will share everything with everyone who cares. it's the FBI after all and their rep for honesty and openness is beyond dispute.
 
But as I recall the bump stock ban was in response to Vegas, which hopefully now we/he can appreciate was a fed operation. I think he trusted the feds unfortunately back then, I don't think he trusts them anymore.
My favorite theory on Las Vegas was attributed to the hacker group, anonymous. They claimed to have hacked the Clarke County SO email to intercept emails between the SO and the FBI.

TLDR: Phillip Paddock was an FBI asset working on a sting to catch jihadis buying guns in USA. This would provide motivation to continue the GWOT and to bring in more gun control.

The jihadis found out it was a trap and went to the meeting. They killed Paddock.

Problem is, I have listened to AR-15s with a bump stock and that is not what I heard in the original footage. I thought it was an M-2 (Ma Deuce) and others said an M-240, which is probably more accurate.

And two different distances and sources of fire, according to sound lag analysis of impact versus rifle report.

So, anonymous may be wrong but it did explain fairly well the FBI clown show that followed. You want "FBI" or "Criminal Minds" and think we have geniuses working there when what actually have is Homer Simpson.

Agent "Doh!" reporting for duty.
 
SS guys on the roof video is strange very strange… Where is recoil for the tripod guy, lifting head off the scope dragging rifle off balance and the kneeling guy hitting the deck? I cannot discern moment those two fired also why would you lift your head off scope if impact as you should keep track of target to double check impact was good wierd shit. Imagine if hit was good how these questions we now have would be conspiracy theory and far right nut not accepting lone psycho did it. As a non religious guy i for sure am baffled really either this is some real strange simulation by someone with weird sense of humor or we just witnessed “an intervention”.
From listening to the audio, the shooter fired three shots, then the SS snipers shot 5 or 6 shots, then more than ten seconds later a final shot was fired by the SS... likely an insurance shot if the shooter was still twitching. The close-up shows his front teeth shattered and there's evidence of bone fragment or other spall/fragment exiting just behind his ear at the jaw level... and it looks like there's a massive wound you can just see the edge of where the bullet path exited his head. Wonder if he raised his head up after Trump dropped and took a round into his open mouth.

I think the roof SS snipers were looking to where the disturbance by the shouting crowd was... at that distance they may well have heard the crowd call out about the man with a rifle... and at the first shot located the shooter and took a few seconds to reposition so as to see past the tree, then dumped a fusillade into the shooter.

The response was impressive, the failure was in letting this Progressive idealistic idiotic kid get a sight picture on Trump and get three shots off. Anyone who registered Republican but donates to Democrats did so to mess with the PA Republican primaries... this was widely encouraged by Democrat PACs during the primaries as a strategy to drain Trump's campaign funds. I'll blame the violent rhetoric from Democrats, including Biden, telling their useful idiote that Trump was Hitler and posed an existential threat to America for this kid's actions... and I bet there was similar talk around his kitchen table at home. Thankfully the kid had what looks to be a 1X red dot sight and not a scope on the rifle, and that Trump turned his head to look at the shooter/sound after the first shot missed. The outcome would have been different if his dad had been a deer hunter and he grabbed the scoped '06.
 

Canadian chimes in.

“I’m very familiar with the layout of these types of things and what the jobs should be. And yesterday, what happened, I have no doubt in my mind that the shooter had help from somewhere within an agency, an organization, or the government,” said Alexander.

“The second I saw that aerial photo of what they were saying happened, it immediately made no sense to me. You cannot, in broad daylight, get onto a rooftop within what looked like maybe a couple of hundred yards. You can’t get into that position with a gun when there’s a president speaking. It cannot be done. You don’t even need to be a sniper to know that it’s the most f—king obvious thing, the most obvious place in the whole world.”

“So something happened, and I’m not pointing fingers at anyone. It’s too obvious that this guy had help getting there. So whether someone turned a blind eye or it was strategically planned, I mean, it had to be planned to a certain level because events like that and security like that, it’s not a small thing. And that is the most obvious place to be.”
 
It is being said constantly and continuously that violence is never the answer..... that it isn't how Americans do things especially political violence.
If this is true, why is it that........
every major memorable political event, throughout history, involving dissent and unrest not only in America but throughout the whole world involves violence and bloodshed?
 
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Were they felons?

Sirhr
That is no longer an absolute requirement for entry to New Zealand's Western Island.

You should, however, be careful how you answer "have you a criminal record?" at customs. For example, saying - "I didn't realise that was still necessary" can lead to taking a while to get through.

Won't do that again.
 
It is being said constantly and continuously that violence is never the answer..... that it isn't how Americans do things especially political violence.
If this is true, why is it that........
every major memorable political event involving dissent and unrest not only in America but throughout the whole world involves violence and bloodshed?
If violence isn’t the answer, you’re not being violent enough.
 
dude. I doubt anyone on this site, let alone anyone or everyone I know, hasn’t said something about someone that they later recanted or changed their mind on.

“Strong beliefs loosely held.”

I believe what I believe based on my experiences to date. 100% chance that in a few years some of my views will have changed based on new experiences. Its called growing.

How about posting the numerous videos where he says he was completely wrong about Trump?

Reagan was a Democrat for Christ’s sake. People change.

 
I posted the actual wind data. Winds were 10 - 11 o'clock. 18mph gusting to 30mph. Here is the data:

At 125 yards. With the correct direction of fire, wind direction, and atmospherics recorded at the time the shooting occured.

  • 55gr 3100fps Wind Direction 11'oclock.
    • 18mph = 1.49 moa, 0.43 mils or 1.95 inches.
    • 30 mph = 2.46 MOA, 0.72 mils or 3.23 inches.
  • 62gr 3000 fps Wind Direction 11'oclock.
    • 18 mph = 0.98 moa, 0.28 mils or 1.28 inches.
    • 30 mph = 1.61 moa, 0.47mils, or 2.11 inches.

I'd say this changes the narrative.

At first I just assumed the shooter was a terrible shot.

However, he nailed his elevation, while not difficult at 125, he still nailed it for a brain shot.

If his handlers didnt think wind would be an issue, then that miss was all wind...

And he is a better shot than people are giving him credit for (without wind knowledge)
 
At the time of the shooting (around 18:11) the wind went from 0. Which it had been all day. To 18mph gusting to 30mph at almost the same time. https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KPIT/date/2024-7-13

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Amazing.
You know.......
Maybe....he did it to take down Chevron deference.
You can't argue hecdidnt set those gears in motion....I mean you can try....
I'll give you that one. Now do red flag laws. "Due process second" his words, not mine.

His vp pick in his first term made no sense to me either. This one doesn't appear to be much better.
 
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Amazing.

I'll give you that one. Now do red flag laws. "Due process second" his words, not mine.

His vp pick in his first term made no sense to me either. This one doesn't appear to be much better.

Pence was a good pick until he went completely off the reservation at the last minute.

I kinda understand why he picked this guy, my choice would've likely been different but it also depends on how many people actually want the job.
 





If the video game comments are true the stuff about no online presence is bullshit. Both are online only games.
 
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