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It’s a throw lever. Best one out there
Interesting, I tried the mk one and was not happy. Will try a couple! Thanks
Most haven't had an issue, however, the newer mounts will have indexing points (like the newer Cantilever) that will basically eliminate any risk for shift.
Thanks for the shout out @ocabj Check out his Vlog entry with his new Zero Compromise Optic ZC420 MPCT2X 10MIL NLE from cstactical.com
If someone from ZCO is reading here:
Why do you guys bring out the ZC210 with 10x and a 30mm objective lens?
I don´t get it.
Wanted to buy my first ZCO for my AR15, but am now thinking if this small eyebox will work for me.
Why don´t you go 40mm at least to give us min. 4mm exit pupil?
Do I have to go to medium scopes, which cost 1/3rd or less to have that?
Or at least, make the Hunter FFP, with parallax adjustment and a recitle like the HTR.
Why do you guys bring out the ZC210 with 10x and a 30mm objective lens?
I don´t get it.
Wanted to buy my first ZCO for my AR15, but am now thinking if this small eyebox will work for me.
Why don´t you go 40mm at least to give us min. 4mm exit pupil?
Do I have to go to medium scopes, which cost 1/3rd or less to have that?
Or at least, make the Hunter FFP, with parallax adjustment and a recitle like the HTR.
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I believe the 2-10 range is more MPVO, I may be interpreting wrong but I think what makes a LPVO is the 1 power setting. Someone will be along to correct me shortly.
The NF 2-10x42 is a decent scope if you’re looking for something in that power range. I contemplated putting one on my gas gun before I went with a 420.
My thinking on bringing it up is that the 2-10 is built like a 1-5 LPVO just with different lenses. There's reasons why LPVO's are built the way they are. Same physics applies. Originally tried to put a Scotty you cannae change the laws of physics gif but it didn't load right.
Note: I don't own a LPVO, MPVO, or any ZCO. Have only looked through either a Tangent or ZCO once.
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Yeah I agree with how they are built and why. Way beyond my knowledge level, I was simple referring to the “L(low)PVO” and “M(mid/med)PVO”, and respective base power setting
Now that we have ZCO’s cantilever mount, it’s much easier to do so now without hunting for a mounting option.
The 2-10 was designed to be like an LPVO, and a compact system. Going to a 1-10, requires double the magnification of a 2-10, and resulted in lower resolution and clarity, not to mention the other issues that arise with giving a 1x a parallax adjustment. They designed the ZC210 to give users looking for something that's 10x an under, compact like an LPVO, with exposed elevation turrets for dialing and a parallax adjustment, but without sacrificing all the qualities associated with ZCO. A 30mm is still much larger than many of the similar competitors in that magnification range, and a lot of guys piggy back either offset or 12 Oclock red dots anyways. And, fact is no matter what they elected for, someone would've had a complaint such as then the objective being too big, or wanting it to be a 3-15 instead.
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Yes, as of a few weeks ago I am. Thanks to someone who nudged me over the edge to purchase!! So far it seems to fit well. Even pulled a few barely sub moa groups from it. Biggest group was 1.01”, one .99”, and one .85”.
Im planning on throwing a ZCO 4-20 on my 20 inch 6 arc whenever Geissele gets em back in stock. I figured the 4-20 would be the perfect scope for that gun.
I´ve never in my life pre-ordered a scope which I´ve never seen and handled.
Well, today is the day.
After a lot of research and a lot of scopes I was cruising around for my AR15, I´ve pre-ordered a ZC210 with the HTR reticle by our importer.
Had to pay 1/4 of the price to get it, hopefully, with the first tranche in spring 2025.
Well, today is the day.
After a lot of research and a lot of scopes I was cruising around for my AR15, I´ve pre-ordered a ZC210 with the HTR reticle by our importer.
Had to pay 1/4 of the price to get it, hopefully, with the first tranche in spring 2025.
These Raptar rails are a joke for either raptars/Mars or red dots. Guess they are for people that want to look cool / rest their hand there.
Relying on just those 2 screws holding flat surfaces together pretty much guarantees your rangefinder or red dot zero will change wjth any small bump or handling
Relying on just those 2 screws holding flat surfaces together pretty much guarantees your rangefinder or red dot zero will change wjth any small bump or handling
The new mounts and accessory mounts will now have indexing to ensure that isn't an issue...
Dude, while I appreciate companies that are present and responsive on a forum like Snipers Hide, you can't expect them to immediately respond every single time. Almost all of the ZCO crew that handles marketing was unavailable to respond here, as they were at the IPRF World Championships this last week.
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It's on Page 4, bottom right, part# 400-757. I'll see if I can dig up an actual picture real quick for ya...
That’s helpful for the people that already have 5-10 mounts.
36mm obsolete mounts sell great on the secondary market
Or the original designers were unaware. Every new company undergoes trial and error, and that was their first mount.
Well given that you have 5-10 (odd that you don't know how many you own, but ok...), then even you didn't realize that was an issue when you first purchased them. Again, ZCO is a rather new company, and that was their first foray into making mounts. Now that they have feedback on design issues, they have made the necessary design changes to correct the issue. They're also not "obsolete," but rather not as ideal for those wanting to mount LRF/RDOs on a diving board, which is a small percentage of users comparatively. You could try reaching out directly to ZCO and seeing what options are available to correct the problem. Just an idea...
Those are just a chunk of the tip of the iceberg. I've made it through roughly 1/2 of the 6K images I brought back, and my eyes are practically bleeding from staring at a computer and processing them all, lol...
Not so odd, I have somewhere between 7 and 11, right now not sure at all (some scopes may be in Spuhrs).
For some of us, that is weird, lol. I own several dozen optics, and I know within roughly +/- 1 to 2 of every brand mounts that I have, and that's over a spread of roughly 9-10 manufacturers. All that said, it doesn't change my assertions made after, that if you purchased that many mounts, and didn't realize it was an issue, it's easy to see how a manufacturer may have missed it on their first mount design. And, it's not always an issue. Some users have not had an issue with the first line of ZCO mounts, but ZCO realizing that there may be an issue, made the necessary changes that you can see with the new cantilever mount to address any future concerns.
Totally agree on your point, if you have not had an issue or used the feature, then to you it is likely a non-issue.
I used to be an all spuhr user and after my first zco I became an all zco mount purchase guy, but I did get a couple used zco with spuhrs, and actually not sure how many “Spare” scopes I have right now
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Totally agree on your point, if you have not had an issue or used the feature, then to you it is likely a non-issue.
I used to be an all spuhr user and after my first zco I became an all zco mount purchase guy, but I did get a couple used zco with spuhrs, and actually not sure how many “Spare” scopes I have right now
Not that it matters, but when I first saw the ZCO mount, I immediately brought up to them that it needed indexing for attachments, and that most shooters who use LRF with any sort of frequency aren't going to trust it. I guess they figured people would just get the one-piece rail cap. Hindsight is always 20-20, but at least they're listening.
Yeah the closest I will get is attaching an RDS mount. I am also extremely careful with my equipment, I never pick my rifle up using the scope, I work to protect the scope. So yeah, I am not the poster child for a one piece cap.
Shot at 1 mile (1773 yards) for the first time today.
Rifle pic from an earlier range day:
Slightly zoomed in pic of the 1 mile berm.
Video of the hit (5th shot):
(not sure how to make the imgur hosted video live)
Rifle pic from an earlier range day:
Slightly zoomed in pic of the 1 mile berm.
Video of the hit (5th shot):
(not sure how to make the imgur hosted video live)
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Burt MUST be from S&B, no other brand he can be not.
But then again, i could be from Kahles, but i doubt that hi is from Vortex.
Must be a henchman from S&B.
But then again, i could be from Kahles, but i doubt that hi is from Vortex.
Must be a henchman from S&B.
Ahhh I vaguely remember a pic of @BurtG ’s super expensive thermal + god knows what else on one of his many rigs. Must’ve not been a ZCO?
I’m used the AI pic thread, which frequently goes off on crazy tangents (which I appreciate btw and learn a lot from). Not Tangent Thetas, tangent tangents lol.
Anyway, that’s prob why I didn’t blink an eye.
Carry on nothing to see here
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