The war in Ukraine and Donbas

lariat · Sep 24, 2024

babyguppy said:
Ukraine discovers North Korean missiles in destroyed Russian base

MSN

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so, in that 230 foot deep crater in Russia.. Ukraine found stuff.
If there was Free Money in the crater, Z would have been there already

I wonder how a Ukrainian investigation team would be able to get to an ammo dump crawling with Russians 300 miles into Russian territory to confirm this. And then exfil safely back.

Other than that, the Korean supplies are old news. It’s been in various reports for a while now.

theLBC · Sep 24, 2024

Key Ukrainian Stronghold About To Fall To Russia As Zelensky Touts 'Victory Plan' In D.C. | ZeroHedge

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akmike47 · Sep 24, 2024

theLBC said:
Key Ukrainian Stronghold About To Fall To Russia As Zelensky Touts 'Victory Plan' In D.C. | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Hopefully it’s him going away so the peace talks can go ahead

Terry Cross · Sep 24, 2024

lariat said:
I wonder how a Ukrainian investigation team would be able to get to an ammo dump crawling with Russians 300 miles into Russian territory to confirm this. And then exfil safely back.

Other than that, the Korean supplies are old news. It’s been in various reports for a while now.

They don't have to. The U.S. is supplying them with real time ISR.
You are correct in that news of N.K. ordnance is old news. The MSN headlines are very misleading. Clickbait as usual.

You and @babyguppy might be interested in some of the details in this:

Satellite Images Show Massive Devastation At Russian Ammo Storage Sites Struck By Ukrainian Drones

Before and after satellite images of the Oktyabrsk, Tikhoretsk and Toropets munitions storage facilities show the recent results of Ukraine's long-range drone operations.

www.twz.com

Darayavaus · Sep 24, 2024

the entire Soviet Deep Battle doctrine relied on rapid movement, and for that you need mechanization. And tank riders can only amount for a small part of that.

in late '43, the German rout began when the Soviets became faster and more mechanized, and the Germans became less mobile with every lost, unreplaced vehicle. Read the memoirs of German soldiers after 43. So often they talk about the speed of the Soviet advances and breakthroughs - By the time they retreated out of an encirclement to a new position, the soviet mechanized units had already passed them.

the soviets still fought and lost enormous quantities of men, and faced the brunt of the fighting. without them, Western Europe would have been a completely different story. but without American trucks (among many other things) they would have been advancing at a vastly slower pace, giving the Germans time to prepare much stronger positions which would have claimed exponentially more Soviet casualties, and potentially caused a stalemate.

Darayavaus · Sep 24, 2024

akmike47 said:
Hopefully it’s him going away so the peace talks can go ahead

Peace Talks? are you kidding me... Peace Talks?!?

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even if Trump gets in, they'll JFK him if he tries to stop the money flow.

SigSauerM7 · Sep 24, 2024

Darayavaus said:
the entire Soviet Deep Battle doctrine relied on rapid movement, and for that you need mechanization. And tank riders can only amount for a small part of that.

in late '43, the German rout began when the Soviets became faster and more mechanized, and the Germans became less mobile with every lost, unreplaced vehicle. Read the memoirs of German soldiers after 43. So often they talk about the speed of the Soviet advances and breakthroughs - By the time they retreated out of an encirclement to a new position, the soviet mechanized units had already passed them.

the soviets still fought and lost enormous quantities of men, and faced the brunt of the fighting. without them, Western Europe would have been a completely different story. but without American trucks (among many other things) they would have been advancing at a vastly slower pace, giving the Germans time to prepare much stronger positions which would have claimed exponentially more Soviet casualties, and potentially caused a stalemate.

They had so much ammo that the boxes said "expend all ammo". Or something to that effect.

I Truly believe that the Germans would have won with a North American Lend Lease.

I don't care about any Russian arguments...I have heard them all.

akmike47 · Sep 25, 2024

Darayavaus said:
Peace Talks? are you kidding me... Peace Talks?!?

even if Trump gets in, they'll JFK him if he tries to stop the money flow.

I didn’t say it was realistic

Eostech · Sep 25, 2024

lariat said:
I wonder how a Ukrainian investigation team would be able to get to an ammo dump crawling with Russians 300 miles into Russian territory to confirm this. And then exfil safely back.

Maybe they came from Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia like the Drone as that is a mere 200ish miles.

Darayavaus · Sep 25, 2024

this pic of the guy who tried to kill trump says it all.

lariat · Sep 25, 2024

Eostech said:
Maybe they came from Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia like the Drone as that is a mere 200ish miles.

Maybe. My overall point is that article is propaganda wrapped in old news. The odds that it was Uke inspectors is near zero. Even IF the Ukes pulled off some kind of secret squirrel operation to get there and inspect behind enemy lines from whatever country then they are identifying NK munitions? The whole thing is suspect.

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 25, 2024

lariat said:
My overall point is that article is propaganda The whole thing is suspect.

The whole thing is propaganda.
It's planted so with the inference of the ukes could win if we supply more money and high tech weapons and to further that the Norks are still bad.

GreenGO Juan · Sep 25, 2024

akmike47 said:
Hopefully it’s him going away so the peace talks can go ahead

He banned elections... He's not going away any time soon. His victory plan is retarded..

Rant below is not directed at you Mike

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This is a 2012 pre coup map of Ukrainian voting. Red area majority supports the Eu/Western backed puppet. The Blue area supports the Russian backed puppet.

So when in 2014 they couped the Kiev government... The people in the blue area's said fuck that and a civil war ensued. Zelensky's idea of pre coup Ukraine died when they violently over they the democratic elected President in 2014.

His peace plan is shit and never going to be accepted. Because it totally ignores the majority of the population of the country that voted for the Russian puppet.

This shit is dumb beyond belief... They don't want peace. They want to force their beliefs on others.

BTW... remember russia still allowed voting in the annexed oblasts. Zelensky BANNED ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE. Pre 2014 Ukraine is a dead horse... stop kicking it.

rant off.

Eostech · Sep 25, 2024

lariat said:
Maybe. My overall point is that article is propaganda wrapped in old news. The odds that it was Uke inspectors is near zero. Even IF the Ukes pulled off some kind of secret squirrel operation to get there and inspect behind enemy lines from whatever country then they are identifying NK munitions? The whole thing is suspect.

I don't understand it really, a waste of bandwidth all-round, just random lies that mean nothing.

samadisoulcrusher · Sep 25, 2024

theLBC said:

Too fucking late! It will take years to rebuild the NCO corps with trained and experienced troops.
How many combat veterans have got out under Bidens B.S. of DEI and the clot shot? Those guy's are not going back!

Mr.BR · Sep 25, 2024

Mr.BR · Sep 25, 2024

Darayavaus said:
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this pic of the guy who tried to kill trump says it all.

BEHIND BARS: Would-be Trump assassin suspect Ryan Routh's son has been taken into custody on federal charges of allegedly possessing child pornography. https://trib.al/xXZqbnD

Mr.BR · Sep 25, 2024

sloporsche said:
whenever these types of go fund me ads show up on facebook i ask if there is a site to donate to russia jus to bust balls

NAFO meltdown still ongoing

6.5SH · Sep 25, 2024

Nearly 3 hours long but well worth the listen to, can jump to the various topic time stamps, but suggest listening to the whole thing.

pmclaine · Sep 25, 2024

War is good.

Bet she is shopping on Newbury Street.

ken226 · Sep 25, 2024

Yea, Ukraine is the model of what Democrats consider their ideal democracy.

No elections.

sharac · Sep 26, 2024

US appears to have problems with Horns this time not with little one but with overly wet one. Appears that while powerful and really expensive one (carrier that is) needs a bit of fuel to keep jets flying and atm its a bit problematic. Maybe US should politely ask the gas station country to refuel its carrier and while at it if it can please bring down two astronauts that are "stuckish" at ISS. Humiliation after humiliation for "greatest fighting force ever" sure hope they dont start with FA and let the all world FO for sure (now its still plausible deniability for most fanboys)...

Numb_Skull · Sep 26, 2024

If you can make an aircraft carrier and a submarine nuclear powered why can’t you do the same for an aircraft?

If they were really powerful they would have done it already.

Why isn’t their spaceship nuclear powered? Space is already full of radiation so they say and the tin hull is enough to protect the astronauts so they say again.

LeftyJason · Sep 26, 2024

Numb_Skull said:
If you can make an aircraft carrier and a submarine nuclear powered why can’t you do the same for an aircraft?

If they were really powerful they would have done it already.

Why isn’t their spaceship nuclear powered? Space is already full of radiation so they say and the tin hull is enough to protect the astronauts so they say again.

Already been looked into. Couple issues. Weight, shielding, what happens if it crashes. Canceled in 1958.

Nuclear-powered aircraft - Wikipedia

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sloporsche · Sep 26, 2024

LeftyJason said:
Already been looked into. Couple issues. Weight, shielding, what happens if it crashes. Canceled in 1958.

Nuclear-powered aircraft - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There were more than few atoms for peace turkey ideas back then and some on the military side as well ...the nuclear hand grenade or the davey crockett recoiless /jeep , the nuke landmine

GreenGO Juan · Sep 26, 2024

Numb_Skull said:
If you can make an aircraft carrier and a submarine nuclear powered why can’t you do the same for an aircraft?

If they were really powerful they would have done it already.

Why isn’t their spaceship nuclear powered? Space is already full of radiation so they say and the tin hull is enough to protect the astronauts so they say again.

There are space craft that harness the atom for electrical power.

And we did build nuke rocket engines.

GreenGO Juan · Sep 26, 2024

Putin waving his pecker around.

thejeep · Sep 26, 2024

sharac said:
US appears to have problems with Horns this time not with little one but with overly wet one. Appears that while powerful and really expensive one (carrier that is) needs a bit of fuel to keep jets flying and atm its a bit problematic. Maybe US should politely ask the gas station country to refuel its carrier and while at it if it can please bring down two astronauts that are "stuckish" at ISS. Humiliation after humiliation for "greatest fighting force ever" sure hope they dont start with FA and let the all world FO for sure (now its still plausible deniability for most fanboys)...

Still haven't recovered from Borat?

theLBC · Sep 26, 2024

theLBC · Sep 26, 2024

sloporsche · Sep 26, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
There are space craft that harness the atom for electrical power.

And we did build nuke rocket engines.

while it never used nukes they did experiment with explosives for proof of concept and it worked ....the idea is like putting an M80 under a garbage can it lifts the can then through a blast door underneath another m80 and so on ,the thought was building an IMENSE SPACECRAFT disc and drop nukes out the bottom for pulsed propulsion and then some one suggested using a nuke on the rocky mountains to clear a hole to lessen LA 's smog

lariat · Sep 26, 2024

Putin Lowers Threshold Of Nuclear Weapons Use In Dramatic Warning Aimed At NATO | ZeroHedge

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Threadcutter308 · Sep 26, 2024

Hungary would have given in to Russia, says Orbán’s top aide

The political director of Hungary’s PM says that the Ukrainians killed fighting Russia died “for nothing.”

www.politico.eu

Mr.BR · Sep 26, 2024

8billion $ in the bag

Ukraine Is About To Get Pledges Of $8 Billion In U.S. Weapons—Including Precision Glide Bombs

But those billions in weapons could take months to ship.

www.forbes.com

Mr.BR · Sep 26, 2024

Adrenaline shot ? Drone warfare is brutal ,but note how the guy on the stretcher takes off.

alfack · Sep 26, 2024

C*cksucker Joe just gave the Ukrainian puppet another 8 billion, just days after stumping for c*cksucker Kamala. They are so desperate to cover up their crimes, they are willing to start WWIII.

sloporsche · Sep 26, 2024

alfack said:
C*cksucker Joe just gave the Ukrainian puppet another 8 billion, just days after stumping for c*cksucker Kamala. They are so desperate to cover up their crimes, they are willing to start WWIII.

well i feared this that he would be signing anything and all that came across his deck marked sign by his handlers

Longshot231 · Sep 26, 2024

Mr.BR said:
Adrenaline shot ? Drone warfare is brutal ,but note how the guy on the stretcher takes off.

His wounds healed fast!

Mr.BR · Sep 27, 2024

sloporsche said:
well i feared this that he would be signing anything and all that came across his deck marked sign by his handlers

At this point i would seriously doubt he even gets to sign anything , i am quite sure there is biden signatory position in the cabinet he /she signs anything that needs hand writen signature in day to day operations

Blue ones ,the x person signing biden , red is wife signing while Nancy Pelosi holds unsigned an arrest warrant for Hunter in front of her.

Mr.BR · Sep 27, 2024

alfack said:
C*cksucker Joe just gave the Ukrainian puppet another 8 billion, just days after stumping for c*cksucker Kamala. They are so desperate to cover up their crimes, they are willing to start WWIII.

Now Trump will be called to heel , a dosier or two by US intel agaencies will make sure of that.

Zelensky extended his stay in the US to meet with Donald Trump — CNN

lariat · Sep 27, 2024

Russia FOUND the F-16's in Ukraine - FIVE Now Destroyed

It appears that Russia found the west-supplied F-16 fighter jets. FIVE are now reported destroyed.

halturnerradioshow.com

"It appears that Russia found the west-supplied F-16 fighter jets. FIVE are now reported destroyed.

At least 4 Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missiles have been launched over the past couple of hours. All of them struck the Ukrainian city of Starokostyantyniv in Khmelnytskyi Oblast.

There are conflicting reports about the number of F-16's destroyed. Some sources are saying four, other sources claiming only two."

ken226 · Sep 27, 2024

The Russians think they got the rest of the F16s.

sloporsche · Sep 27, 2024

oh well....what is the next "game changer" weapon for the uke ....i know ...its a bic ......sign a peace deal ,trump aint gonna give you blank checks like brandon

Mr.BR · Sep 27, 2024

Sounds like six of six supplied so far ? But like Zelensky said spare planes are parked in Romania so they can keep them safe and replenish loses

ken226 · Sep 27, 2024

It's popping up on other sources

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/missile-strike-f16s-ground-ukraine

GreenGO Juan · Sep 27, 2024

Its how media works. Funny how similar the article is to a July article from the Kiev post. Some one drops an article someone else picks it up then another and suddenly its news but not real proof that it actually happened, exactly how dis/mis information gets spread. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/35727

From link above- Russian strike planners on Friday launched a focused but, according to Kyiv statements, unsuccessful attack against the Khmelnytsky region air base in Starokostyantyniv. The Ukrainian airfield is considered to be the best prepared to handle soon-to-arrive American F-16 fighter jets.

Kremlin Tu-95 “Bear” bombers reportedly launched five Kh-101 cruise missiles – the same weapon responsible for a bloody attack on a Kyiv children’s hospital on Monday – at the Ukrainian Air Force’s main bomber base shortly before midnight Thursday-Friday.

All the missiles had been shot down by early Friday morning, along with 19 Shahed kamikaze drones launched from Russia’s Kursk Oblast to accompany the cruise missiles and intended to distract air defenses, a Ukrainian Air Force statement said.

theLBC · Sep 27, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
Its how media works. Funny how similar the article is to a July article from the Kiev post. Some one drops an article someone else picks it up then another and suddenly its news but not real proof that it actually happened, exactly how dis/mis information gets spread. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/35727

From link above- Russian strike planners on Friday launched a focused but, according to Kyiv statements, unsuccessful attack against the Khmelnytsky region air base in Starokostyantyniv. The Ukrainian airfield is considered to be the best prepared to handle soon-to-arrive American F-16 fighter jets.

Kremlin Tu-95 “Bear” bombers reportedly launched five Kh-101 cruise missiles – the same weapon responsible for a bloody attack on a Kyiv children’s hospital on Monday – at the Ukrainian Air Force’s main bomber base shortly before midnight Thursday-Friday.

All the missiles had been shot down by early Friday morning, along with 19 Shahed kamikaze drones launched from Russia’s Kursk Oblast to accompany the cruise missiles and intended to distract air defenses, a Ukrainian Air Force statement said.

same way they "debunked" pizzagate.
one article links to another "news site" that tells the same bullshit, and they link back to the first story as "proof" that it was debunked.

GreenGO Juan · Sep 27, 2024

GreenGO Juan · Sep 27, 2024

theLBC said:
same way they "debunked" pizzagate.
one article links to another "news site" that tells the same bullshit, and they link back to the first story as "proof" that it was debunked.

Yeap. The recent Sean Ryan interview with John Gentry highlighted this type of "intel" releases.

DarnYankeeUSMC · Sep 27, 2024

GreenGO Juan said:
Yeap. The recent Sean Ryan interview with John Gentry highlighted this type of "intel" releases.

The same way the FBI used the Russian collusion storyline.

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