Yeah, I read an early report that said it was Senior, then I posted. Saw the subsequent reports that said it was actually Junior. Oh well, the sentiment is still the same. Fuck 'em both.
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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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It’s war. The objective is to win. Putin moved his assets out of range, used them to mostly attack civilian infrastructure, and then starts talking nuclear because the enemy increased the range of its weapons. We call that, tough shit. Don’t like it? Agree to a ceasefire, and knock off the gamesmanship. I might be tired of fighting everyone’s wars, but that doesn’t mean you get to play me for the fool.
War is a tool of foreign policy of all nations russia wants the uke [because of its location] to stop whoring itself to nato , I think russia will get most of what it wants in the long run or the craters in the uke will get bigger .
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When do we get the big reveal from Ukraine? You know, the part where they reveal what we get in return for all that we have done.
The west uses another peasant country to weaken the godless russians ....its been a world wide work in progress since 1947 ....they do /we do it .....games .....korea was a push / cuba a win / vietnam a loss just to name a few
You are the fool. Ukraine is just a massive money laundering deep state scam perpetuated by the media. NPCs like you allow it to continue using Ukraine lives as lubricant for defence contractors and grifting politicians.
Quote of the year. I use similar language to communicate to normies that their support for Ukraine is the exact reason young Ukrainian men are dieing in mass but this is much more succinct.
Remember....
The old coot in the Whitehouse shouldn't even be in the discussion. Biden is not nor has he been in charge. Our country doesn't have a functioning Executive branch. It is and has been run by unelected people that are above the law. In fact their tentacles are so deep, they have weaponized the law.
I agree with everything you said otherwise. I'm just prone to getting that nervous eye twitch when discussions allude to Joe Biden having any tangible sway in policy or decisions. He is simply the target they want you to focus on.
That would be interesting to debate.
A lot of us believe the Russians are holding back their generals as much as possible until Trump gets in. Putin's speech to the world 2 days after the US election was very positive and coming across as pro Trump. He stated that it was a very real step toward countering the NWO pricks.
My take is that Putin would love to resume being a world economic player while letting his people and country prosper without war. My take also includes the belief that Putin will stand his ground firmly when it comes to the West trying to push NATO to his border (against promises by the West to do the opposite.) As commander and chief of the RU, he is simply responding to a threat the same way we would hope our own leadership would respond to China, Russia or NK putting troops, bases, labs and missiles in Mexico, Cuba or Canada. We wouldn't stand for it one second, but he is supposed to ignore our own transgressions.
Some fence sitting MSM is saying that Russia is in a weakened state and also that Putin fears DJT ratcheting up the offensive push in their war. I believe the opposite and rather than fear, Putin respects DJT considering their interactions from 2016 to 2020.
Like you, this is just my opinion and is also likely fraught with errors.
That seems to be the case.
George, by all accounts is now suffering with advanced senility and other cognitive issues (Good!)
Alexander is fully in charge of their shared agenda and beliefs. By all accounts, he is more extreme than George. (Bad!)
I'm guessing there are a LOT of variables that RU has to consider in regards to any type of nuclear deployment.
In addition to the world political and military response, I'm still thinking they don't want ANY fission/fusion byproducts in the soil, air or water anywhere close to their borders. Even western Ukraine is proximate to Russian soil when it comes to prevailing winds and half-life decay timelines.
Absolutely. We are just as expendable in their eyes.
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true? who knows and who could we trust for the truth?
Reading is fundamental part of understanding. Maybe you want to cruise back up thread and read what I wrote about Ukraine before you call me an NPC, boomer. Let me help you out, it’s a kleptocracy and I could not care less about their war with Russia. What I do care about is Russia running over countries every time Putin needs to jack his approval up, or some civilian jackass at State gives him a pretext. That’s because it creates a situation where we get dragged in and we end up in a shitty mess like this. I’m tired of fighting everybody’s wars.
Overall I think the Russian people largely want the same things we want, peace and stability. Im not so sure what Putin wants after seeing what happened in Georgia, Crimea, the Donbas, etc. maybe he should take a step back and look at what’s coming in January, rather than trying to game the battlespace and look like the caricature the civilian clown car has tried to make him. YMMV.
I’ve re read my post and it could (though if you read this thread you should know) be misunderstood. An Afd IS a step in right direction hence all out effort to ban not vice versa…
No dude atacms/glide bombs/ir bombs CANNOT be “guided” without detailed info into “enigma” style codes. You might not be aware but a dumb (by modern standards) laser guided laser bomb MUST have its code and guidance laser code in synch to track. Its 80ies tech and even then there were preset codes on laser transmitter that pilot actually had to input to set the bomb guidance. Its not just to point your aliexpress laser into the windows and bomb nails it. Thats basic tech now add to that terrain following, alternate route, image processing, gps waypoints and target recognition based on image/radar processing and youre in land of big boys. You can count big boys with fingers on one hand (standard one not Chernobil one).
Among those that matter its clear WWIII has in fact started only question remains do we go exponential, do we take it slowly or just maybe we stop after the first base. We’ll see i guess.
No dude atacms/glide bombs/ir bombs CANNOT be “guided” without detailed info into “enigma” style codes. You might not be aware but a dumb (by modern standards) laser guided laser bomb MUST have its code and guidance laser code in synch to track. Its 80ies tech and even then there were preset codes on laser transmitter that pilot actually had to input to set the bomb guidance. Its not just to point your aliexpress laser into the windows and bomb nails it. Thats basic tech now add to that terrain following, alternate route, image processing, gps waypoints and target recognition based on image/radar processing and youre in land of big boys. You can count big boys with fingers on one hand (standard one not Chernobil one).
Among those that matter its clear WWIII has in fact started only question remains do we go exponential, do we take it slowly or just maybe we stop after the first base. We’ll see i guess.
Obama-Biden-Clinton nuclear giveaway to Russia a decade ago comes back to bite America
Vladimir Putin has cut off exports of Russian uranium to the United States, exploiting a dangerous dependence cemented by Obama-era deals.justthenews.com
"Putin bad", "Trump is a Russian asset!" But who sold 25% of Uranium One production to Russia/Putin when it wasn't hers to sell?
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Think what 10M could do for the North Carolina families... It's over 200 billion now we sent Ukraine.
And if it is true that Russia shot them down it more proof that they are learning how to counter our technology.
If Putin really wanted to counter the NWO pricks, be a patron saint for ordinary people everywhere, and make a genuine Nobel-prize level contribution to world peace, he would/could just bomb the next Davos WEF and Bilderberg meetings. Kill 2-3K and save 7B. Unfortunately, that's not the role the Bible infers Russia will play in end times.
agree,bombing civ infrastructure is certainly something that no one but putin has ever done. putin has been incredibly patient. biden regime has given him every reason to declare war on us and nato. he hasn't because he seems to know that that would quickly go nuc and he knows no one wins that. it seems that our NWO compliant gov hasn't figured that out yet.
cuban missile crises was a small hap compared to now. both the US and USSR would likely have survived a war then. wrecked but lg pop alive maybe. not now. the destructive potential of the modern weapons and their huge #s make survival of life more advanced than insect unlikely today. throw in india,pakistan,north k,china,maybe israel/iran? the suicidal,destructive behavior of the world's neocons is hard to get.
Both US and EU high command seem full of incompetent people, I wouldn’t bet they intentional getting the math right, they might get some right by accident but that’s hardly comforting.
Oh pipe down, US is plenty capable of getting into wars without Russia.
That is a a lot of umbrellas.
Imagine if Russia drops a nuke or two on the most resource rich areas of Ukraine. The area would be too hot for a long time for anyone to economically extract the resources. A lot of shadow government actors that have a lot of money to gain from the extraction of these resources would lose out big time.
Doubtful they will use a nuke but i would wager a military base/ complex ,maybe even an EMP device they know quite well its their backyard
You dont shit in your own yard you go to the neighbors. Why in the world would Russians nuke something that can be theirs in few years/decades or kill mostly friendly people in droves when you have clear enemy a lot farther and deserves major ass whooping.
If they get to a point where they realize they can't have it, no one else will either.
I don't believe Russia are in a weakend state, have they taken some loss, yes, but not weak/broken. Ukraine is the one on life support.
While I agree Putin holds more respect for Trump than Biden or Obama. (Hell there used to be a light show on the side of a Building in Moscow that had Obama sucking a dick.) He has presided over Russia through Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden and now Trump again and knows that our Government swings and sways. While he has kept things on a fairly even footing politically in Russia for nearly 25 years. So just because he may be more inclined to work with Trump, doesn't mean that what is aggreed upon may last past Trumps 4 years. And Given how far things have gone down the shitter, I don't see Putin stopping on some bullshit weak ass promises that there is not guarantee to keep.
As I have said multiple times, I am very curious what Trumps move is here.
i'm still waiting for an explanation (excuse) from our deep state as to why we have bankrupted ourselves over a land that has nothing to do with us. one that makes sense,i mean. i hear: protect europe from conquest (who cares?) ,protect democracy in ukraine (you shitting me?). haven't heard: profit the MIC,obscure and preserve the source of biden/deep state corruption,eliminate more slavic white males,maybe regime change in russia and subsequent take over by NWO? i am having trouble seeing even any flimsy excuse lately. maybe just a fuck you to american lower and middle classes?
Truth must not be told as would cause domestic issues in the form of pitchforks, hanging trees, guillottine, quartering or whatever old ritual there was when dealing with leaders fucking with plebs for too long.
We just cant have that even if it means going Morlock on the planet. Elites know best now shut up peasant and go to sleep there be laboring tomorrow…
We just cant have that even if it means going Morlock on the planet. Elites know best now shut up peasant and go to sleep there be laboring tomorrow…
Y'all should watch tonight's Redacted; in addition to Colonel McGregor, they had on Congressman Keith Self from Texas who spent 25 years in the military and has a background expertise in the Cold War as strategic nuclear defense preparations against Russia. He has drafted articles of impeachment against Biden based on the 25th amendment. Given that Biden put us this close to World War III, should he be anywhere near the decision to use the nuclear football which is in seconds? Kamala isn't any more capable as demented Biden and we know that too.
Articles of impeachment will be presented if the state department if Biden doens't immediately release all the criteria and allowances they gave Ukraine and discuss with NATO to give new Ukraine.
Self is speaking at 1:30
Articles of impeachment will be presented if the state department if Biden doens't immediately release all the criteria and allowances they gave Ukraine and discuss with NATO to give new Ukraine.
Self is speaking at 1:30
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I think there are some that didn't study history and are following in the footsteps of Napoleon and Hitler. They are literally getting off on Zman's peace plan of conquering Russia. They won't come out and say it but that is their aspiration.
Sacking Russia.
Which country has invaded more countries since 1945 - US or Russia? Who randomly drone strikes its "enemies" in foreign countries we are not officially at war?
allegedly this is russian drone footage of zelensky's car and escort. they could take him out if they wanted to?
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Biden approves anti-personnel mines for Ukraine, US official says
The United States expects Ukraine to use the mines in its own territory, though it has committed not to use them in areas populated with its own civilians, the official said. The Washington Post first reported the development. The office of Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the...
Tulsi is right. These people are war mongers. They won't be satisfied until thousands more die. Scum!
Biden approves anti-personnel mines for Ukraine, US official says
The United States expects Ukraine to use the mines in its own territory, though it has committed not to use them in areas populated with its own civilians, the official said. The Washington Post first reported the development. The office of Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, the...
I thought we've gone past land mines? Haven't we learned that lesson? Sheesh.
As Poll Finds Ukrainians Want to End War, U.S. Pushes Zelensky to Bomb Russia and Expand Conscription
The Biden administration's push for Ukraine to strike Russia with US-made long-range missiles, expand conscription and fill their country with US-made land mines came right
www.informationliberation.com
I can only think they are acting on intelligence that says russia will do nothing of consequence....we shall see what price the uke will pay
the ukrainians sent their best units into kursk, and they are going to be obliterated if they try to retreat.
they are trapped and desperate.
How much combat power can NATO put into a ground war minus the US Army? How many European military planes, tanks, helicopters, etc. are even mission capable?
I think it would take weeks of build up not to mention trump would have to say OK
Chances of the Russians just sitting back while we moved a bunch of attack troops to their border is probably Zero at this point since they would know we mean to attack them.
Not much at all.
Thus NATO's willingness to FAFO.
NATO is still super pissed at DJT for calling them out in front of the world during his first term.
The facts that NATO is inept, bloated and irrelevant have been exposed to the rest of the world. The member countries of NATO are not really threatened but their NATO personnel sure as hell are. If they can instigate a significant event in their own back yard, their existence and funding will be justified in their eyes.
Victoria Nuland and the other unelected shadow elites running (ruining?) things have a vested interest in a nice war.
In my opinion, it is geopolitical arson. Not dissimilar to a firefighter starting a fire so they can be a hero. **Not picking on our FD homies.
Very few.
Of that few, their readiness rate is prolly around 30-40%.
Just as telling, the Euro members no longer have the industrial capacity to surge into any type of replacement rate deliveries.
They are counting on us to have their back and the F'ing idiots speaking for us are egging them on.
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Pretty much close to a rock. No, I was unaware of their use. Basically a good way to kill your own and future generations.
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